apparently they started arriving today.

i'm about ready to order one but i would like to know the state of the branding:
Start up logos
Unremovable Bookmarks
Permanently bound shortcuts
Any sign of the Vodafone 360 nonesense
Extra Apps?
anything else?

You want to stay with Symbian? really?

i like symbian.

i'm happy to have this debate with you but i don't really want to take this thread off topic.