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Old 20-11-2010, 12:47
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Friday 19th November Overnights
BBC One (inc. HD)
19:00-22:00: Children in Need 2010: 9.10m (37.0%)
* lowest CIN rating since 2006

ITV1 (exc. HD)
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.28m
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.07m
20:00- Kate and William: A Modern Royal Romance: 3.14m
20:30- Coronation Street: 5.75m (22.5%)
21:00- I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 5.65m (21.8%)
* down ~1m vs. same episode last year

Updating...
Some pretty grim ratings abound last night. Corrie did badly, very badly. IAC did badly, very badly.

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Old 20-11-2010, 12:48
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Friday 19th November Overnights
BBC One (inc. HD)
19:00-22:00: Children in Need 2010: 9.10m (37.0%)
* lowest CIN rating since 2006

ITV1 (exc. HD)
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.28m
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.07m
20:00- Kate and William: A Modern Royal Romance: 3.14m
20:30- Coronation Street: 5.75m
21:00- I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 5.65m (21.8%)

Updating...
Still a cracking good rating for CIN, above my own expectations, even if a BBC1 show pulling 9.1m over 3 hours against ITV's soaps and IAC will get scant comment on this thread...

Be good to see what the peaks were 8-8.30 and at 9pm.

Shocker for Corrie 2 and IAC.

IAC down from 11.2m to 5.7m over 5 shows - now THAT's tanking!

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Old 20-11-2010, 12:50
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Everything seemed down on Friday. The second Coronation Street and I'm A Celebrity were really low. It makes me agree with Robbie Sykes about sometimes BBC1 rolling over and playing dead to often. Try and compete more often and you can reap ratings dividends.

Also shows that if BBC1 could find a half decent show at 7pm they could get more in that timeslot than they usually do with The One Show.
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Old 20-11-2010, 12:50
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Some pretty grim ratings abound last night.
See what I mean?

9.1m over 3 hours - yes, miserable and grim.

If ITV had averaged 9.1m over 3 hours on a Friday night, you'd have creamed your pants.
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Old 20-11-2010, 12:56
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See what I mean?

9.1m over 3 hours - yes, miserable and grim.

If ITV had averaged 9.1m over 3 hours on a Friday night, you'd have creamed your pants.
What the ACTUAL f*ck? I was referring to grim ratings on ITV, so put a sock in it.

It's a shame CIN was at a 4 year low since it is such a good cause, but there's no denying it did amazingly for a 3 hour marathon.
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What the ACTUAL f*ck? I was referring to grim ratings on ITV, so put a sock in it.

It's a shame CIN was at a 4 year low since it is such a good cause, but there's no denying it did amazingly for a 3 hour marathon.
Hm. Perhaps you should have cropped the CIN ratings from the quote you were replying to, or said "grim ITV ratings" to avoid such confusion.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:01
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Hm. Perhaps you should have cropped the CIN ratings from the quote you were replying to, or said "grim ITV ratings" to avoid such confusion.
Or maybe if you'd read the full post it would have been pretty clear what ratings he was referring to.
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I do like "what the actual f___?" as an expression though. Not any old hypothetical or imaginary f___, an actual one!

I may use that myself sometime...
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Everything seemed down on Friday. The second Coronation Street and I'm A Celebrity were really low. It makes me agree with Robbie Sykes about sometimes BBC1 rolling over and playing dead to often. Try and compete more often and you can reap ratings dividends.

Also shows that if BBC1 could find a half decent show at 7pm they could get more in that timeslot than they usually do with The One Show.
There's a big difference to the BBC airing something different against ITV and the one off massively advertised plug and national event that is Children in Need
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:19
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Children in Need rated well. Although its lowest rating in 4 years, 9m+ is fantastic against a strong ITV lineup. What was shown on CIN at 20.20 as that was when it peaked? The second part of CIN post-news also rated extremely well and CIN Mastermind was up from last year's rating too.

Once HD is factored in, Emmerdale and the 1st Corrie are similar to last year's figures. The 2nd Corrie and IAC were about a million down from last year (once HD is factored in). I think they'd have been better off to have Corrie as an hour long episode last night with IAC beginning at 8.30pm and filler at 9.30pm. IIRC, last year the 2nd Corrie ep was quite a big one (Tony's confession) so that could explain why it rated lower yesterday and the lower lead-in wouldn't have helped IAC. I don't think IAC rated too badly - its rated worse against CIN before (as low as 4.4m).
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There's a big difference to the BBC airing something different against ITV and the one off massively advertised plug and national event that is Children in Need
This is true but as I was discussing on Gallifrey Base I think there is an audience out there, but they don't want to see The One Show or Emmerdale every single day.

I miss the variety that BBC1 and ITV had at 7pm on a weekday. Telly Addicts used to go out on Tuesdays at 7pm and some weeks beat Emmerdale. The One Show will get something between 4-5m and no more, only getting 6m when it's poor weather outside or Emmerdale isn't on.

Sometimes TV bosses are happy to plod away with a show getting respectable ratings in a timeslot, when they could try something else that could really catch on.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:24
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Hm. Perhaps you should have cropped the CIN ratings from the quote you were replying to, or said "grim ITV ratings" to avoid such confusion.
And as Agent F said, perhaps you should have read the whole post and used your brain rather than leaping to an incorrect conclusion based on reading my username and visualising the ITV1 logo, bathed in gold and with angels circling it - and then only managing the first seven words before falling over yourself to hit the quote button and craft a typically cutting response.

We'll let bygones be bygones though, so long as you can try your hardest to stop lumping me onto a side. I'll refer you to this post from the other day which you probably read, but glossed over, which demonstrates that I am not the ITV obsessive you would like to think I am.

I find your posts very entertaining but I don't enjoy it when you or your little tribe of disciples (who follow you whether you like it or not, amusingly) start namechecking me because, in all honesty, I am more impartial than you think.

I do like "what the actual f___?" as an expression though. Not any old hypothetical or imaginary f___, an actual one!

I may use that myself sometime...
It is a good'un. Save it for the day after The X Factor final, eh?
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:27
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:28
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Friday 19th November Overnights
BBC One (inc. HD)
19:00-22:00: Children in Need 2010: 9.10m (37.0%)
* peak: 11.12m (45.2%) at 20:20
* lowest CIN rating since 2006
22:00- BBC News at Ten: 6.84m (30.4%)
22:35-02:00: Children in Need 2010: 4.63m (46.7%)

BBC Two
19:00- Live International Rugby Union: 1.86m
22:00- Mastermind Children in Need: 3.145m (14%)

ITV1 (exc. HD)
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.28m (28.3%)
19:30- Coronation Street: 7.07m (29.5%)
20:00- Kate and William: A Modern Royal Romance: 3.14m (13.0%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 5.75m (22.5%)
21:00- I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 5.65m (21.8%)
* down about 1m vs. same episode last year

Channel 4 (inc. HD)
20:00- Come Dine with Me: 1.32m (5.3%)
21:00- The Event: 847k (3.3%)

Channel 5 (inc. HD)
21:00- The Mentalist: 1.24m (4.8%)

Children in Need Breakdown
Code:
1900 *	6.9654
1905 *	7.1364
1910 *	7.4241
1915 *	7.701
1920 *	7.7559
1925 *	8.0256
1930 *	7.8942
1935 *	7.7769
1940 *	7.9151
1945 *	7.7537
1950 *	7.6921
1955 *	8.8038
2000 *	10.1108
2005 *	10.3674
2010 *	10.7101
2015 *	10.8984
2020 *	11.1181
2025 *	10.456
2030 *	9.3253
2035 *	8.9368
2040 *	9.1496
2045 *	8.9949
2050 *	8.7701
2055 *	10.2977
2100 *	10.5256
2105 *	10.2837
2110 *	9.9197
2115 *	9.1899
2120 *	8.7233
2125 *	9.2213
2130 *	9.9347
2135 *	9.6082
2140 *	9.014
2145 *	9.5447
2150 *	9.9613
2155 *	9.7243
Really low for the Event on Channel 4.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:30
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Really low for the Event on Channel 4.
The Non-Event?

CIN seems to have been ahead of ITV for the whole slot - which is a bit worrying for EmFm, and Corrie in particular.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:34
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CIN seems to have been ahead of ITV for the whole slot - which is a bit worrying for EmFm, and Corrie in particular.
Not really, BBC1 was ahead of ITV1 for the whole slot last year.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:42
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Ouch. Terrible raring for CIN. Worst since 2006 isn't good at all. Clearly it was dented by ITV's "aggressive" scheduling.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:53
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As requested by D.M.N., yesterday's ITV1 breakdown between 7-10pm (in addition to BBC1's):

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Time....BBC1....ITV1 (exc. HD)
1900 *	6.97	6.03
1905 *	7.14	6.37
1910 *	7.42	6.02
1915 *	7.70	6.49
1920 *	7.76	6.87
1925 *	8.03	5.89
1930 *	7.89	6.88
1935 *	7.78	7.27
1940 *	7.92	6.75
1945 *	7.75	7.54
1950 *	7.69	7.69
1955 *	8.80	6.28
2000 *	10.11	3.38
2005 *	10.37	3.11
2010 *	10.71	2.88
2015 *	10.90	2.88
2020 *	11.12	2.99
2025 *	10.46	3.63
2030 *	9.33	5.85
2035 *	8.94	6.02
2040 *	9.15	5.66
2045 *	8.99	6.44
2050 *	8.77	6.63
2055 *	10.30	3.89
2100 *	10.53	4.82
2105 *	10.28	5.40
2110 *	9.92	5.68
2115 *	9.19	5.15
2120 *	8.72	6.35
2125 *	9.22	6.39
2130 *	9.93	5.26
2135 *	9.61	5.95
2140 *	9.01	6.41
2145 *	9.54	5.69
2150 *	9.96	5.22
2155 *	9.72	5.50
And for the breakfast ratings yesterday:

Breakfast (inc. HD): 1.69m (37%)
Daybreak (exc. HD): 762k (18%)
Lorraine (exc. HD)..: 941k (17%)
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:54
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Another strong performance for CIN-9m against 2 1/2 hours of ITV's big hitters is great, and it's only down very slightly. It still remains in the 9m bracket.

I don't understand why ITV don't have an hour of Corrie-the whole point of the split is to accommodate EE and as seen from last night and past experiences, it loses momentum. That 8.30pm rating is really awful though, so close to their big one. Should look a bit healthier in the officials and will probably timeshift to around 7m.

Not really surprised by IAC's rating-it hasn't really had any big events this week that are worth talking about and seems more like background TV than event TV this series. Should be back up to 9m+ tonight though, so nothing to worry about on the ratings front.

The Event continues to tank. I give it two more weeks in the 9pm slot. The Mentalist also reaches what I think is a record low for a new episode.
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Old 20-11-2010, 13:57
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Daybreak (exc. HD): 762k (18%)

oops. and there was Lorraine in today's Sun boasting about that ratings are "on the up"
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Old 20-11-2010, 14:05
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BBC appear to have updated their schedules for week beginning 11th December, not sure if the timings will change slightly, they may do - but this looks more confirmed than before:

Saturday 11th December
17:35 - The Impressions Show with Culshaw and Stephenson (R)
18:05 - Strictly Come Dancing
19:05 - All New Celebrity Total Wipeout
20:05 - The National Lottery Saturday Night Draws
20:20 - Casualty
21:10 - BBC News
21:30 - The Armstrong and Miller Show
22:00 - Match of the Day

If that stays the same, then it means the opposition for The X Factor Final is Total Wipeout, Lottery, Casualty and the News.

Sunday 12th December
17:30 - Jimmy's Food Factory (R)
18:00 - Countryfile
19:00 - Strictly Come Dancing: Results Show
19:30 - Antiques Roadshow
20:30 - Inspector George Gently
22:00 - BBC News

UK TV Guide doesn't make it clear whether Inspector George Gently is new or a repeat, but either way, less opposition than last year for The X Factor Final. Strictly moves half an hour to avoid it as well.

Crimewatch is on BBC1 at 9pm on Tuesday 14th. Dig 1940 takes Wallace and Gromit's slot at 7:30pm on Wednesday 15th. Royal Variety Performance is on at 8pm on Thursday 16th (as noted yesterday by C.M.W.). Apprentice documentary Why I Fired Them on at 10:35pm on Thursday 16th. Thursday's 9pm block for that week only as a result moves to Friday.
Im annoyed about this Strictly scheduling. Firstly, only one hour on the Saturday for the semi-final? It should be on for longer than that and be starting later.

And it really annoys me how the BBC schedulers have wilted at the thought of clashing with the X Factor Final. Have they not seen the head-to-head ratings this year? I would have expected Strictly to do better clashing at 7:30 then at 7 and the BBC get the benfit of denting the first quarter of X Factor. Really weak from the BBC yet again.
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Sky Media (who run Sky's advertising wing) have released a very detailed document about Sky's plans for Sky Atlantic.

It includes a potential schedule outline and also reveals that Atlantic will also have showcases from Sky Arts and Sky Movies. The movies that it lists as showing on Atlantic are You Don’t Know Jack, Temple Grandin,The Lovely Bones, Avatar, The Blind Side, Up In The Air and Invictus. Overall it says there will be 30 titles show in a year, 8 of which it says will be premieres.

In Treatment moves to Atlantic from Sky Arts.

Audience wise they say there will be a slight male bias and they want the programming to feel 'iconic, exclusive and immersive'. The 'tone' will be 'smart, individual, passionate and American'. All just words of course but the first real insight into what Sky's plans are for Atlantic.

http://www.skymedia.co.uk/_downloads...ogos%20(W).pdf
That reminds me - we do occassionally see ratings for Sky Sports here but there is never any mention of Sky Movies. Just a quick glance at the last Barb Figures for w/e 7 Nov and apart from one film on Sky Premiere everything is in the tens of thousands - and in most cases sub-50,000 too. I guess though with Sky Movies especially it's subscribers rather than ratings which matter - would be interesting to know the figure for the number of movies an average subscriber watches over a month.

Is Sky Arts still a standalone subscription or is it now in the basic packages. With Sky Arts though talking thousands rather than tens of thousands - only a handful of programmes break 10,000.

I do wonder too how long it'll be until Sky make Sky Atlantic a standalone subscription channel, and whether they're just throwing it in the basic package initially to get people hooked into series, and then having to fork out again to watch the second series.

He was full of praise for C4's Any Human Heart this Sunday by the way. Interesting to see how that does ratings wise - it's been a good year for C4 drama so far with This is England (series average: 2.9m excluding +1) and the brilliant Mo (3.5m overnights, 4.0m officials, excluding +1).
I'm sure it'll be around the 2m mark - though with C4 drama it can just as easily be sub-1m. Scheduling is a bit erratic though - premiere is 1 hr 40 min, then 1:25, 1:30 and 1:25. OK, there might be an argument it's better to make the slot fit the story than the story fit the slot, but considering C4s lack of series surely running it as six one-hour episodes would give it a bit more presence in the schedules - and effectively promote it from "mini-series" to "series".

I also think in hindsight they should have bought up an ad slot or two in the last Downton Abbey and then began it the next week, especially as they're from the same producers - and interestingly Carnival Films have part-funded both dramas, rather than being paid for it outright by ITV/C4.

I bet too C4 are making the same mistake as they did with Pillars of the Earth and offering no repeat on C4 or More4 of Any Human Heart either.
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Old 20-11-2010, 14:17
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Im annoyed about this Strictly scheduling. Firstly, only one hour on the Saturday for the semi-final? It should be on for longer than that and be starting later.
They're having an extra episode on the Friday instead.
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Old 20-11-2010, 14:22
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That reminds me - we do occassionally see ratings for Sky Sports here but there is never any mention of Sky Movies. Just a quick glance at the last Barb Figures for w/e 7 Nov and apart from one film on Sky Premiere everything is in the tens of thousands - and in most cases sub-50,000 too.
All the premieres are delivered on Anytime on Friday morning before their first showing.

I know many, like myself, always watch those, so they won't be included in BARB figures.

Then you have at least seven showings on the linear channel and the +1, in the first week. Subsequently, they go on the 'genre' channels.

Sky don't seem to be obsessed with ratings. I suppose their reasoning being, that if you're watching something either linear, PVR or Anytime, you're not watching a non-Sky channel.

Every episode of their home produced dramas are also on Anytime, so figures for those are lower as many watch on non-linear channels.
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As requested by D.M.N., yesterday's ITV1 breakdown between 7-10pm (in addition to BBC1's):

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Time....BBC1....ITV1 (exc. HD)
1900 *	6.97	6.03
1905 *	7.14	6.37
1910 *	7.42	6.02
1915 *	7.70	6.49
1920 *	7.76	6.87
1925 *	8.03	5.89
1930 *	7.89	6.88
1935 *	7.78	7.27
1940 *	7.92	6.75
1945 *	7.75	7.54
1950 *	7.69	7.69
1955 *	8.80	6.28
2000 *	10.11	3.38
2005 *	10.37	3.11
2010 *	10.71	2.88
2015 *	10.90	2.88
2020 *	11.12	2.99
2025 *	10.46	3.63
2030 *	9.33	5.85
2035 *	8.94	6.02
2040 *	9.15	5.66
2045 *	8.99	6.44
2050 *	8.77	6.63
2055 *	10.30	3.89
2100 *	10.53	4.82
2105 *	10.28	5.40
2110 *	9.92	5.68
2115 *	9.19	5.15
2120 *	8.72	6.35
2125 *	9.22	6.39
2130 *	9.93	5.26
2135 *	9.61	5.95
2140 *	9.01	6.41
2145 *	9.54	5.69
2150 *	9.96	5.22
2155 *	9.72	5.50
And for the breakfast ratings yesterday:

Breakfast (inc. HD): 1.69m (37%)
Daybreak (exc. HD): 762k (18%)
Lorraine (exc. HD)..: 941k (17%)
Thanks rzt.

If I was ITV, I'd have had:

19:00 - Emmerdale
19:30 - Coronation Street
20:30 - I'm a Celebrity
22:00 - ITV News

Pretty sure they would have been able to stretch IAC out with one new person going in.
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