You do like posting this sort of stuff a lot.

"15m watched The X Factor, but I know some people who are bored with it, so I expect it will be axed in 3 years time, that will be bad for ITV"

That's the kind of rating Seven would've been hoping for all along.

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So rumours are that ITV will have another soap revamp. Sure they'll muck it up somehow - they usually do. Maybe Coronation Street will appear on Saturday.

All shows have a shelf life. However, if you think of another popular Saturday night institution from the eighties, Blind Date, which had similar ratings to TXF, this ran for 20 years before being axed ( although its last series struggled in the ratings) and Stars In Their Eyes ran for 12 years. I would give TXF at least until 2013, and maybe until 2016 if Cowell decides to keep it going. BGT, which is newer, could in theory do an Opportunity Knocks and last for 21 series.
However, the main worry is if ITV's big non soap shows start to fade in a few years time and they have nothing to replace them with. Obviously ITV is making a bit of a revival in drama, but series like Little House aren't suited to Saturdays and a plan is needed for after 2013.

It was Tuesday and I very much doubt that was the reason why. The soaps were being moved from the weekend schedule - Corrie moved to Friday at 8.30 and Emmerdale's Tuesday episode became an hour long.

I guess the main intention was to dent EastEnders and prop up the Tuesday schedule - they'd have had no reason to want to move Corrie there as it already had a solid schedule.

The main intention of Emmerdale facing Eastenders was to dent the BBC1 show? Why would ITV do that considering they are denting their show too and losing out on much needed ad revenue? I dont think ITV should be focusing on denting BBC shows as their a commerical channel and need high ratings to survive.

That sounds more like a dirty trick the BBC would play to damage ITV shows.

Also if the soaps are rejigged, might it be in ITV1's interests to ditch the lonely 8pm Emmerdale and 8.30 Coronation St episodes on Thursday nights and move Corrie back to Wednesdays at 7.30 when no football is on, though using Thursdays when the football is on.
However, as some people say, I can't see ITV wanting to return the soaps to Sunday nights. TXF has become such a big success in the former soap hour and DOI will probably get 8 million viewers, there's no need.

Well I would agree completely and I would assume so does Peter Fincham as the regular clash is no longer in place - and Emmerdale has benefitted hugely from avoiding EastEnders most of the time.

Why indeed but that was exactly what ITV did. EastEnders played out at 7.30pm for years and even some on Emmerdale didn't want the two shows to clash. But ITV have been doing this for years. When EastEnders launched their Monday night edition ITV put on an hourlong Corrie for the first night.

Shrek 1 and 2 got 9m+ audiences in primetime slots on Christmas Eve, against EmFm and Coro St no less.

I'd be astonished if BBC1 did anything different this year for Shrek 3.

Indiana Jones does seem a likely Boxing Day movie and should do better than Pirates 2 and 3.


As soon as SCD had a storming success with the first run of Sunday results shows, ITV was obviously going to do the same old copycat routine the following year for TXF, regardless of where BBC1 put SCD. People spent months on this very thread speculating before the 2009 series of TXF about whether the Sunday results show was happening or not, and it caused much excitement for some - I remember having to scroll through it all...


Yup - same as last week.


Plenty of filler on the 11th and 12th too by the look of it...


Presumably the 15 min peak for 7.15-7.30?

CF is the undoubted ratings success of the past 12 months.


Same old Beeb. Needlessly rolling over so ITV can do them up the ass.

Danny Cohen is obviously a mouse not a man. Or perhaps it's our old pal Georgie D who takes sole responsibility for scheduling?

I thought the whole intention of airing Emmerdale on tuesday was to try and force EastEnders out of the 7.30pm slot but who knows what planet the ITV schedulers were on then.


And who knows what planet the BBC schedulers are on now. I agree with you; BBC1 could've put up a much more competitive schedule even without clashing with The X Factor.

What are these timings for?

Talking of Corrie on here, just reminded me - i came across this ( have a feeling it may have been posted, not sure though) - Coronation Street Schedule for w/c 29 November.



http://www.itv.com/presscentre/coron...w/default.html
Obvioulsy it's for I'm a celeb. Surely Thursday's a typo othewise it will clash with EE?

6.00 Strictly Come Dancing
7.00 All New Celebrity Total Wipeout
8.00 Lottery Draws
8.15 Casualty

I don't think Danny Cohen has started yet as Controller of BBC1.

Oh that is weak!

He took over the role immediately.

In that case I stand corrected. Funny how BBC1 wants to provide an alternative to The X Factor earlier in the series and just gives up for the final. Odd. But then maybe ITV will roll over for the Strictly final?

Time for a first stab at Christmas, now the highlights have been announced.

Thoughts?

(And not "There's already a thread for this, Robbie.." )

Christmas Eve

6.05 BBC News, Regional News
6.30 FILM PREMIERE: Shrek the Third
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 QI
9.00 Rock n Chips: Five Gold Rings
10.00 HIGNFY
10.30 The Graham Norton Christmas Show
11.15 News
11.30 Midnight Mass

Christmas Day

2.00 Top of the Pops
3.00 The Queen
3.10 FILM PREMIERE: Cars
5.00 BBC News
5.15 SCD Christmas Special
6.30 EastEnders
7.00 Doctor Who
8.00 The One Ronnie
9.00 EastEnders
9.30 The Royle Family
10.30 Come Fly With Me
11.00 BBC News
11.10 FILM: TBA

Boxing Day

6.10 Just William
7.30 FILM PREMIERE: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
9.30 Upstairs Downstairs
10.30 News
10.45 MOTD

Not just given up, they've turned tail and run for the hills.

I'm gobsmacked!

It's surprising isn't it? I wish there was a facepalm smiley here sometimes!

EastEnders is confirmed to be airing on Boxing Day. The One Ronnie might be a bit of a Gruffalo? I'd like BBC One to run:

2.00pm Top of the Pops
3.00pm The Queen
3.10pm Film: Cars
5.00pm Film: Wall-E
6.40pm BBC News
6.50pm Doctor Who
7.50pm EastEnders
8.20pm Strictly Come Dancing
9.20pm EastEnders
9.50pm The Royle Family
10.50pm BBC News

So, if I understand it right, they've gone:

9.05 News
9.25 A&M
9.55 MOTD
11.10 Football League Show

????

MOTD can't have aired at that time since the 1970s!

This can't be right - they surely need something to pad it out for 30 minutes?

We haven't had any Dibley repeats for a while, the usual Saturday night padder when desperate...

I reckon SPOTY will be back against TXF next year - at least that gives them something for the Sunday night!

And when TXF gets 21m both nights for the final, at least no-one will argue with me when I say it was all "default viewing". I mean, there really will be no alternative! :yawn:

In that case:

Boxing Day

6.00 Celebrity Total Wipeout
7.00 EastEnders
7.30 FILM PREMIERE: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
9.30 Upstairs Downstairs
10.30 News
10.45 MOTD

I think The One Ronnie (if it's any good) could be a hit, and does seem to have Christmas Night written all over it. I think SCD deserves better than Corrie filler, and Ronnie could be the man (at least for this year) to take that role on. If it only manages 7m then it will have done about as well as it would on a less competitive night, whilst SCD could get 10-11m in a 5.15 slot with no soap competition.

It can get that on a normal Saturday at that time, of course...

Christmas Day is the one time I would prefer the BBC to ignore ITV completely. I'm fed up of the formulaic EastEnders, Doctor Who, Strictly, Doctor Who, comedy special they have gone for in recent years. All to pander to ITV, who want to air their stupid hour long episodes of Emmerdale and Coronation Street between 7 and 9pm. To be honest, they should work around the far superior offering on BBC1.

I agree with you, then, that The One Ronnie could be great and something different for Christmas Day. I just wish the schedule was slightly different and felt more special than the same old, same old, we've seen since DW's revival.

So EE's is allowed to have an hour episode ( abeit 2 x half hour ones) yet Corrie & Emmerdal are not. Nothing like double standards!