Possible error with the SCD rating reported on this thread. D.M.N. has reported it as 10.57m (38.0%), whilst MG and DS have reported it as 10.2m (36.6%). Which one is correct?
The Ratings Thread (Part 13)
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Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Sunday 7th November 2010
BBC One
19:30 - Strictly Come Dancing: 10.57m (38.0%)”
“Sunday 7th November 2010
BBC One
19:30 - Strictly Come Dancing: 10.57m (38.0%)”
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Possible error with the SCD rating reported on this thread. D.M.N. has reported it as 10.57m (38.0%), whilst MG and DS have reported it as 10.2m (36.6%). Which one is correct?”
“Possible error with the SCD rating reported on this thread. D.M.N. has reported it as 10.57m (38.0%), whilst MG and DS have reported it as 10.2m (36.6%). Which one is correct?”
I noticed that too, it can't be an issue with tape checking as it ran the full slot. Maybe an HD related increase?
All the websites I've looked on have reported 10.2m (36.6%) for Strictly last night. (DS, Media Guardian, ATV, Media Tel). I can't see Broadcast though.
Originally Posted by dave01:
“I noticed that too, it can't be can issue with tape checking as it ran the full slot. Maybe an HD related increase?
All the websites I've looked on have reported 10.2m (36.6%) for Strictly last night. (DS, Media Guardian, ATV, Media Tel). I can't see Broadcast though.”
“I noticed that too, it can't be can issue with tape checking as it ran the full slot. Maybe an HD related increase?
All the websites I've looked on have reported 10.2m (36.6%) for Strictly last night. (DS, Media Guardian, ATV, Media Tel). I can't see Broadcast though.”
I'm going to assume 10.2m is the correct rating!
Wow! Epic result for the X Factor.
Does anyone have the ratings for yesterdays Champrionship ganes on BBC1 and the FA cup tie on ITV?
Thanks.
Does anyone have the ratings for yesterdays Champrionship ganes on BBC1 and the FA cup tie on ITV?
Thanks.
Surprised (well not that surprised) that Countryfile's massive official rating of 8.23m hasn't been mentioned. It broke the previous offical record by more than 1m.
Broadcast says:
Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.
Either DS and MG are excluding HD, or Broadcast meant to say 10.2m including 369,500 on HD. Do we know yet if BBC One HD is being reported separately or not?
As DS and MG make no reference to HD whatsoever in their mention of Strictly, it seems to me that Broadcast is most likely to be correct.
But it could be that the 10.2m does include HD, and the 369,500 referenced was actually the audience for Jimmy's Food Factory and Stephen Fry on BBC HD. (unlikely as it seems high for these shows)
Ugh, I'm so confused. Bloody HD, causes all sorts of problems!
Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.
Either DS and MG are excluding HD, or Broadcast meant to say 10.2m including 369,500 on HD. Do we know yet if BBC One HD is being reported separately or not?
As DS and MG make no reference to HD whatsoever in their mention of Strictly, it seems to me that Broadcast is most likely to be correct.
But it could be that the 10.2m does include HD, and the 369,500 referenced was actually the audience for Jimmy's Food Factory and Stephen Fry on BBC HD. (unlikely as it seems high for these shows)
Ugh, I'm so confused. Bloody HD, causes all sorts of problems!
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“I'm going to assume 10.2m is the correct rating!”
“I'm going to assume 10.2m is the correct rating!”
I thought you might.
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Surprised (well not that surprised) that Countryfile's massive official rating of 8.23m hasn't been mentioned. It broke the previous offical record by more than 1m.”
“Surprised (well not that surprised) that Countryfile's massive official rating of 8.23m hasn't been mentioned. It broke the previous offical record by more than 1m.”
It cant be denied, I have said many times how amazing the figures are-its got its optimum slot and doing a job far greater than I reckon BBC execs thought it would(I certainly didnt think 8 million was possible). But alot of stuff has got lost in the glare of the X Factor and Downton this year-including the fact that AR is still pulling very respectable figures and is virtually the only thing the Beeb could run with much success against XF.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Broadcast says:
Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.
Either DS and MG are excluding HD, or Broadcast meant to say 10.2m including 369,500 on HD. Do we know yet if BBC One HD is being reported separately or not?
As DS and MG make no reference to HD whatsoever in their mention of Strictly, it seems to me that Broadcast is most likely to be correct.
But it could be that the 10.2m does include HD, and the 369,500 referenced was actually the audience for Jimmy's Food Factory and Stephen Fry on BBC HD. (unlikely as it seems high for these shows)
Ugh, I'm so confused. Bloody HD, causes all sorts of problems!”
“Broadcast says:
Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.
Either DS and MG are excluding HD, or Broadcast meant to say 10.2m including 369,500 on HD. Do we know yet if BBC One HD is being reported separately or not?
As DS and MG make no reference to HD whatsoever in their mention of Strictly, it seems to me that Broadcast is most likely to be correct.
But it could be that the 10.2m does include HD, and the 369,500 referenced was actually the audience for Jimmy's Food Factory and Stephen Fry on BBC HD. (unlikely as it seems high for these shows)
Ugh, I'm so confused. Bloody HD, causes all sorts of problems!”
Hmm. This HD stuff is so confusing. I think I said in a previous post I like seeing seperate HD ratings reported but I've had enough of them now.
And another thing DS, update your soap ratings section please.
Some predictions for tonight, because I haven't done any in a while (aside from the game)...
BBC One
EastEnders 9.9m
Spooks 5.4m
BBC Two
Giles and Sue 2.4m
The Trip 1.9m
ITV1
Coronation Street #1 10.6m
Coronation Street #2 10.8m
Ch4
Coppers 1.8m
Chris Moyles 1.5m
Ch5
Extreme Fishing 1.5m
Se7en 1.2m
BBC One
EastEnders 9.9m
Spooks 5.4m
BBC Two
Giles and Sue 2.4m
The Trip 1.9m
ITV1
Coronation Street #1 10.6m
Coronation Street #2 10.8m
Ch4
Coppers 1.8m
Chris Moyles 1.5m
Ch5
Extreme Fishing 1.5m
Se7en 1.2m
It looks like ITV1 is trying to shake off its downmarket image at last and Downton Abbey, which will have done well with ABC1 viewers, might persuade them that investing in quality dramas instead of reality shows is a better idea as these are a better bet in the long term. Maybe some of the vast profits from TXF and BGT, which have revived ITV's fortunes, are being well spent.
Actually there is little to fault with ITV1 in peaktime at the weekends now. Saturday nights from 7.45 to 12.00 are now watchable- a far cry from the dog days of Blind Date, The Premiership and the Lisa Riley era You've Been Framed- and the pairing of TXF and Downton Abbey have pulled in 11-12 million viewers on Sunday nights. Maybe dropping the soaps on Sunday wasn't such a bad idea after all as ratings for TXF in the former Coronation St slot are 40 pc higher.
Actually there is little to fault with ITV1 in peaktime at the weekends now. Saturday nights from 7.45 to 12.00 are now watchable- a far cry from the dog days of Blind Date, The Premiership and the Lisa Riley era You've Been Framed- and the pairing of TXF and Downton Abbey have pulled in 11-12 million viewers on Sunday nights. Maybe dropping the soaps on Sunday wasn't such a bad idea after all as ratings for TXF in the former Coronation St slot are 40 pc higher.
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Hmm. This HD stuff is so confusing. I think I said in a previous post I like seeing seperate HD ratings reported but I've had enough of them now. ”
“Hmm. This HD stuff is so confusing. I think I said in a previous post I like seeing seperate HD ratings reported but I've had enough of them now. ”
It's good see if they're getting better though and reaching the 20% share they should be achieving.
X Factor's HD overnights were especially good, 13.92m on SD and 997,000 on HD. A 7% HD share, compared to Strictly's poor 3.5%.
Bound to top a million in the officials, third time for ITV1 HD, along with England's two World Cup group matches in June.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“It's good see if they're getting better though and reaching the 20% share they should be achieving.
X Factor's HD overnights were especially good, 13.92m on SD and 997,000 on HD. A 7% HD share, compared to Strictly's poor 3.5%.
Bound to top a million in the officials, third time for ITV1 HD, along with England's two World Cup group matches in June.”
“It's good see if they're getting better though and reaching the 20% share they should be achieving.
X Factor's HD overnights were especially good, 13.92m on SD and 997,000 on HD. A 7% HD share, compared to Strictly's poor 3.5%.
Bound to top a million in the officials, third time for ITV1 HD, along with England's two World Cup group matches in June.”
7% is nowhere near 20%?
It's okay, but still significantly fewer than the number that watched the SD broadcast of The Xtra Factor.
I think The X Factor benefits because you have whole families watching and the younger members of the family are probably pointing them in the direction of the HD simulcast, whereas older viewers are probably less inclined to seek it out, even if they have the channel.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“MediaGuardian excelled themselves today - just three ratings in its report on what was quite a big night for TV. Oh joy!”
“MediaGuardian excelled themselves today - just three ratings in its report on what was quite a big night for TV. Oh joy!”
Their reports have gone down the pan in the past few months, quite frankly.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Broadcast says:
Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.
Either DS and MG are excluding HD, or Broadcast meant to say 10.2m including 369,500 on HD. Do we know yet if BBC One HD is being reported separately or not?
As DS and MG make no reference to HD whatsoever in their mention of Strictly, it seems to me that Broadcast is most likely to be correct.
Ugh, I'm so confused. Bloody HD, causes all sorts of problems!”
“Broadcast says:
Strictly Come Dancing roped in 10.2m (36.6%) on BBC1 from 7.30pm to 8pm. An additional 369,500 (1.42%) watched the BBC HD simulcast as Jimi Mistry was voted off.
Either DS and MG are excluding HD, or Broadcast meant to say 10.2m including 369,500 on HD. Do we know yet if BBC One HD is being reported separately or not?
As DS and MG make no reference to HD whatsoever in their mention of Strictly, it seems to me that Broadcast is most likely to be correct.
Ugh, I'm so confused. Bloody HD, causes all sorts of problems!”
Seems strange though how two sources haven't inc. HD if this is the case. Surely 10.2m does inc. HD as DS always include HD in there ratings.
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I thought you might.”
“I thought you might.
”
I went with the majority!
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Their reports have gone down the pan in the past few months, quite frankly.”
“Their reports have gone down the pan in the past few months, quite frankly.”
Agreed. Some days they report, some days they don't. Either do it all the time or don't bother because frankly it's very annoying!
Like when many websites revamp content seems to go out of the window. There now seems to be just a handful of articles on Media Guardian a day compared to what they had with their last look.
Happens all too frequently with C4 - Pillars of the Earth is exactly the sort of show which should be getting a repeat on More4, rather than yet another chance to see Come Dine with Me.
Talking of More4, wonder how the Joan Rivers film will do tomorrow - though once again the True Stories films go out at 10pm. They should have given it a shot at 9pm tomorrow (go on, guess what's on at nine!) in what isn't a very competitive slot this week.
So their "final report" says pretty much exactly what the initial report said months ago!
Even in the tabloids it's generally at most three pages a day - easily avoidable by just turning the page, just as those who supposedly hate the show can easily avoid it by changing the channel.
So true - and off the back of Heartbeat it would probably have a different audience with different expectations too The pairing of The X Factor and Downton Abbey is a very good example of two contrasting programmings working together - and I rather suspect if it wasn't without the financial success of the former the latter may never have been made.
I hope too it gives confidence to ITV to commission more drama series - I'm fed up with all these two and three parters and though commissioning a series may be riskier, long term a strategy reliant on short-form series is surely the bigger risk.
You won't have to imagine much longer - well not on Channel 5 anyhow now Dirty Desmond has got his hands on it.
Serves them right that ratings for ITV London in Scotland are said to be outstripping STV itself. The saddest thing is Scottish viewers are being fobbed off with films, imports and cheap documentaries - I don't think STV have made one original drama (other than Taggart) for their audience since they ditched most of the networked content.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Two weeks ago Pillars only got 1.47m in the overnights, but the officials pushed it up to 1.97 (both excluding +1). Still down on its debut though. Tough slot for an excellent programme.
Strange that neither Pillars nor The Event have any repeats during the week.”
“Two weeks ago Pillars only got 1.47m in the overnights, but the officials pushed it up to 1.97 (both excluding +1). Still down on its debut though. Tough slot for an excellent programme.
Strange that neither Pillars nor The Event have any repeats during the week.”
Happens all too frequently with C4 - Pillars of the Earth is exactly the sort of show which should be getting a repeat on More4, rather than yet another chance to see Come Dine with Me.
Talking of More4, wonder how the Joan Rivers film will do tomorrow - though once again the True Stories films go out at 10pm. They should have given it a shot at 9pm tomorrow (go on, guess what's on at nine!) in what isn't a very competitive slot this week.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC Trust conclude review of BBC One, BBC Two and BBC Four. Key findings: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/p...services.shtml (My bold in the bits below)
I wonder whether we could see The One Show being cut to 4 days and off-air in school holidays, with something else on Friday's at 7pm?
Edit: Final reports are here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/our_wo...views_tv.shtml”
“BBC Trust conclude review of BBC One, BBC Two and BBC Four. Key findings: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/news/p...services.shtml (My bold in the bits below)
I wonder whether we could see The One Show being cut to 4 days and off-air in school holidays, with something else on Friday's at 7pm?
Edit: Final reports are here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/our_wo...views_tv.shtml”
So their "final report" says pretty much exactly what the initial report said months ago!
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“True, but I think you're only likely to find football coverage excessive if you don't like football, whereas with The X Factor, even diehard fans of the show are growing tired of seeing it splashed across the papers every day because they can recognise that most of it is a load of drivel.”
“True, but I think you're only likely to find football coverage excessive if you don't like football, whereas with The X Factor, even diehard fans of the show are growing tired of seeing it splashed across the papers every day because they can recognise that most of it is a load of drivel.”
Even in the tabloids it's generally at most three pages a day - easily avoidable by just turning the page, just as those who supposedly hate the show can easily avoid it by changing the channel.
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“SENSATIONAL for XF and Downton. I don't think anyone can put a bad spin on those figures. 10m for a brand new non crime drama on ITV1 is amazing, but for it to be 2m up from its launch episode is astonishing. This has to be the success of the year for ITV. The lead in has definitely helped, but we all know a lead in isn't everything and the series could have easily averaged around 6m.”
“SENSATIONAL for XF and Downton. I don't think anyone can put a bad spin on those figures. 10m for a brand new non crime drama on ITV1 is amazing, but for it to be 2m up from its launch episode is astonishing. This has to be the success of the year for ITV. The lead in has definitely helped, but we all know a lead in isn't everything and the series could have easily averaged around 6m.”
So true - and off the back of Heartbeat it would probably have a different audience with different expectations too The pairing of The X Factor and Downton Abbey is a very good example of two contrasting programmings working together - and I rather suspect if it wasn't without the financial success of the former the latter may never have been made.
I hope too it gives confidence to ITV to commission more drama series - I'm fed up with all these two and three parters and though commissioning a series may be riskier, long term a strategy reliant on short-form series is surely the bigger risk.
Originally Posted by C14E:
“Can you imagine if there was an "entertainment news" section on the national news every night?”
“Can you imagine if there was an "entertainment news" section on the national news every night?”
You won't have to imagine much longer - well not on Channel 5 anyhow now Dirty Desmond has got his hands on it.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“STV must really be feeling daft now. Opting out of run of the mill dramas is one thing, but not showing the biggest new drama to be on ITV for years really is another matter!”
“STV must really be feeling daft now. Opting out of run of the mill dramas is one thing, but not showing the biggest new drama to be on ITV for years really is another matter!”
Serves them right that ratings for ITV London in Scotland are said to be outstripping STV itself. The saddest thing is Scottish viewers are being fobbed off with films, imports and cheap documentaries - I don't think STV have made one original drama (other than Taggart) for their audience since they ditched most of the networked content.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“7% is nowhere near 20%?”
“7% is nowhere near 20%?
”
True but much better than the regular ITV1 HD share.
I think The X Factor benefits because you have whole families watching and the younger members of the family are probably pointing them in the direction of the HD simulcast, whereas older viewers are probably less inclined to seek it out, even if they have the channel.[/quote]
I'm sure you're right. It's an age thing. As we know BBC One's biggest demographic is over 55's so the HD shares tend to be a lot lower.
Straight after X Factor, the HD share for Downton fell from X Factor's 7% to 4.5%. No doubt youngsters switching off and the elderly switching from BBC One.
BTW Downton in HD, is sumptious!!
Corrie is trending worldwide on Twitter. Pretty certain ratings for both episodes will be over 10m tonight.
6 new pages on this thread since last night?
Can't be arsed reading through that lot - I can only assume something happened like the Strictly results breaking 10m again, or that dull First World War filler on BBC1 somehow managed to pull 2m, or something like that?
Can't be arsed reading through that lot - I can only assume something happened like the Strictly results breaking 10m again, or that dull First World War filler on BBC1 somehow managed to pull 2m, or something like that?
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Can't be arsed reading through that lot - I can only assume something happened like the Strictly results breaking 10m again, or that dull First World War filler on BBC1 somehow managed to pull 2m, or something like that?”
“Can't be arsed reading through that lot - I can only assume something happened like the Strictly results breaking 10m again, or that dull First World War filler on BBC1 somehow managed to pull 2m, or something like that?”
It wasn't filler, it got a rave review in Time Out, they said it was absolutely brilliant. And last week we had suggestions that the Beeb would never put anything challenging or niche on prime time BBC1.
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It wasn't filler, it got a rave review in Time Out, they said it was absolutely brilliant. And last week we had suggestions that the Beeb would never put anything challenging or niche on prime time BBC1.”
“It wasn't filler, it got a rave review in Time Out, they said it was absolutely brilliant. And last week we had suggestions that the Beeb would never put anything challenging or niche on prime time BBC1.”
The only problem with that is that the vast majority of the nation only has the review in Time Out to go on.
Just looking at ITV1's overall ratings for the last 3 months and they seem a bit of a paradox. Monthly average viewing shares:
Oct 2010 - 17.2% (Oct 2009 - 19.1%) Change = Down 9.9%
Sept 2010 - 16.6% (Sept 2009 - 18.0%) Change = Down 7.8%
Aug 2010 - 14.5% (Aug 2009 - 15.1%) Change = Down 4.0%
This is despite very good ratings (overall increases I think from what I've read on here) for:
- X Factor
- Downton Abbey
- Coronation Street
- Emmerdale
Last year also contained two absolutely disastrous nights of European football featuring no English teams which this year have been moved to ITV4.
Now the above are only 4 programmes but in total they do comprise a very substantial proportion of ITV1 viewing (especially when you bear in mind the number of episodes each week).
So it does seem odd (to me at least!) that ITV1's overall share of viewing is still down by as much as it is.
Any thoughts? The numbers suggest very substantial falls indeed across large chunks of the rest of the schedule.
Oct 2010 - 17.2% (Oct 2009 - 19.1%) Change = Down 9.9%
Sept 2010 - 16.6% (Sept 2009 - 18.0%) Change = Down 7.8%
Aug 2010 - 14.5% (Aug 2009 - 15.1%) Change = Down 4.0%
This is despite very good ratings (overall increases I think from what I've read on here) for:
- X Factor
- Downton Abbey
- Coronation Street
- Emmerdale
Last year also contained two absolutely disastrous nights of European football featuring no English teams which this year have been moved to ITV4.
Now the above are only 4 programmes but in total they do comprise a very substantial proportion of ITV1 viewing (especially when you bear in mind the number of episodes each week).
So it does seem odd (to me at least!) that ITV1's overall share of viewing is still down by as much as it is.
Any thoughts? The numbers suggest very substantial falls indeed across large chunks of the rest of the schedule.
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