8-9 million seems to be the natural level for Coronation St now, so need to panic,this is still excellent considering the highly competitive market. ITV won't complain as this is the annual banker for them. Its ratings drop from its peak is about 50 pc, the same as Eastenders, so isn't a disaster. If Corrie was to be getting the same ratings as Neighbours, a similarly popular show 20 years ago, then it would be crisis time and it would have been long gone.
Also Corrie, buoyed by its JD episode, also has its anniversary week to look forward to. Hope the original episode will be shown again.

1.35m for a Thursday is very good. A couple of months ago it would be lucky to even scrape that on it's high-rating day like Monday, it usually drops off to <1m after Wednesday.

Again no reason to worry, a home grown programme that does better than Home and Away in the 6-7pm slot which is aimed at the same age group isn't doing too badly. I think 1.35m for a show clearly aimed at the under 25s is fine.

Naturally, it was always going to increase when the clocks went back so I was expecting a boost of around 0.3m (which it has got) similarly to how the other soaps, mainly the big 3 have increased. But with a hugely hyped story I would have thought the show would have been around 1.7m/1.8m this week. I know the E4 showings have increased slightly, but still. Maybe I just had high expectations. I would also guess it's posting big year on year decreases aswell, even with no big week last year (feel free to correct me on that part though).

Brilliant stuff.



And of course the bigger picture needs to be factored in. If Corrie had remained on Sundays, would ITV be getting the same size audience for The X Factor results?

1) they are on in different timeslots and do not compete directly;
2) it's a major week for Hollyoaks and not a major week for H&A;
3) H&A's first look beats Hollyoaks' first look on a near nightly basis.

7.30pm Coronation Street
8.00pm The X Factor

Can't see an issue, if anything it'd majorly help Corrie.

Anyway, ITV PI have updated the week beginning Mon 29 Corrie schedules, they now go:

Mon 29 November - 7.30pm (30 mins)
Wed 1 December - 7.30pm (1 hour)
Thu 2 December - 7.30pm (30 mins)
Fri 3 December - 7.30pm (30 mins)

Interesting. Thursday at 7.30pm would surely clash with EastEnders, no? But that's what it says, and it was updated today!

You could also argue that The Simpsons, which again has a large young following, beats Home and Away by about a million in this slot. Even if Summer Bay was blown up in an episode, I doubt ratings would go up that much. Home and Away seems to be more of a cult thing now.

They are completely different shows from an advertisers perspective at least - and TXF may be less attractive to advertisers with a Corrie lead in, even if it means a bigger inheritance for TXF.

They always play their cards close to their chests but would be interesting to see how programmes perform in terms of revenue - I would bet even with the smaller audience The Cube is probably bringing in as much as Corrie did in the slot.

Was Coach Trip C4's biggest show yesterday? :O
I reckon an hour long Coach Trip at night would have been better than Seven Days.

There were some on Tuesdays at 8 or 8.30pm in early 1987.

And, as Iain said, there were some on Sundays at 7.15pm in spring 1985 or '86.

Both those repeat runs were during the previous Licence Fee freeze.

You could argue that, and that would be true, but that doesn't exactly reflect badly on Home and Away if that is what you are trying to suggest. Since moving to 4 and 5 respectively, The Simpsons has always been more popular than H&A, so nothing new. If anything, in recent years the gap between the two has narrowed. It used to be closer to a million, now it's more like 500-600k in the difference going by the official data.

It is clear you don't like Home and Away, but honestly some of your arguments about its performance today have been of the weakest calibre. Will you only be satisfied when shows you don't like and consider past it are off the telly?

Thursday's is wrong, Emmerdale is on from 7pm to 8pm.

No, ironically Home and Away is the much bigger show than Neighbours in Australia, whereas here it's the other way round and always been. At the height of Neighboursmania in 1989, Neighbours always had 3 million more viewers, though HA always had the regional variations to contend with. Personally I wish The Sullivans always got the attention the famous two had as this was a vastly better show and, if promoted right, could have done well in an evening slot. However, this is a personal opinion.
Yet I am defending Coronation St for at the moment as some people think it's in some kind of crisis. Yes 8 million viewers would have seen it marched off the screen 30 years ago, but nowadays this is a very good rating and it always wins its slot. Even though my watching days ended years ago, the show is clearly a guaranteed money spinner for ITV when you know who's shows aren't on.

I could add that ITV1 have had a successful autumn after a summer from hell. Not mentioning Cowell, whose show is even bigger than last year and is still good to accompany a pint in the pub, Corrie and Emmerdale seem to have added an extra million to their ratings, the quality drama Downton Abbey has pulled in 10 million, and other decent dramas like Whitechapel and Little House have 5 million each. Not to mention a visit to the Gold Coast next week that ITV are hoping will pull in 8 million a night. Also the fitba on Wednesdays attracts 4-5 million viewers, not brilliant but gets a mainly male demographic that ITV often lacks.
Yes there are some serious gaps in ITV1's schedule- Tuesdays are wretched and non footballing Wednesdays can be a bit of a write off- but Saturdays at last have some guaranteed hits. TXF, Piers Morgan Interviews and An Audience With are all highly watchable shows that win their slots. Also Sundays with TXF and Downton Abbey have been phenomenal for them.

I agree with most of what you say about ITV1. It's not been a bad season for them on the whole, generally sticking to what they do best and at least finally putting The X Factor lead-in to good use.

But series two of Whitechapel was a massive anti-climax ratings wise and you're being far too kind mentioning it alongside a genuine massive hit like Downton Abbey.

Excellent programme, not a soap though. It was really Australia's version of Granada's Family at War, one of my all time favourites.

Ranked By Adults 18-49:

1. The Big Bang Theory (CBS) - 13.11m (4.2)
2. Grey's Anatomy (ABC) - 11.13m (4.0)
3. The Office (NBC) - 7.15m (3.6)
4. $#*! My Dad Says (CBS) - 9.72m (2.9)
5. Private Practice (ABC) - 8.21m (2.9)

6. The Mentalist (CBS) - 13.84m (2.8)
7. CSI (CBS) - 12.99m (2.8)
8. Bones (FOX) - 9.20m (2.6)
9. Outsourced (NBC) - 5.48m (2.6)
10. 30 Rock (NBC) - 5.09m (2.4)

11. Community (NBC) - 4.53m (2.0)
12. Fringe (FOX) - 4.82m (1.7)
13. The Vampire Diaries (CW) - 3.50m (1.6)
14. The Apprentice (NBC) - 4.00m (1.4)
15. Nikita (CW) - 2.33m (0.9)

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Pretty sure that's a series low for The Mentalist. CSI just 0.1 above it's all time series low as well and falling from its lead-in. Compared to the same night last year, CBS were down 11% at 8pm, 30% at 9pm and 20% at 10pm. Grey's Anatomy is down 28% from the same week last year.

$#*! is holding just under 70% of its lead-in and this weeks episode was 28% lower than the premiere . Mike & Molly on Mondays is holding more than 80% and is only down about 10% from the premiere. Odds are that CBS will clear at least one of it's plum comedy half hours for a new show and right now, it's hard to see M&M going anywhere.

Confirmed: Paul O'Grady Christmas Special - Christmas Eve, 9pm on ITV1.

A bit uninspired perhaps but at least it'll be a damn sight more festive than the Taggart episode they aired last year on Christmas Eve! A decent idea I guess as Xmas Eve is probably even worse than Xmas Day for ad revenue so cheap and festive is probably the way to go, and they'd have been foolish to waste Benidorm in that slot.

With it getting 3.5m against New Tricks, 4m or so for a festive edition against presumably lesser opposition seems a reasonable prediction, which wouldn't be too bad for them.

Not sure whether it will make a difference to the rating,and I havent seen every episode, but tonights New Tricks was a cracking story. It had a feel of early Minder about it-especially a scene in a pub.

Quite a fall from Coronation Street after the heights of Monday -still seems strange that BBC1 wins the night by 3% with 90 mins of soap in opposition.

Davina McCall just noted on Million Pound Drop: "even though tomorrow's show is the last in the series, we will be back soon."

I bet they're going to be live over Christmas, knowing Channel 4, they'll over-expose it as per the norm.

Today's Financial Times said the same too.

They had an article saying that "TXF Final weekend" was the UK equivalent of The Superbowl. I think they meant in terms of ITV charging top whack for ad slots, rather than it also being a drawn-out, overblown and overhyped spectacle, which takes up far too much of everyone's time, where not very much happens for a lot of the time, and a week later nobody can remember who won.




Excellent for BBC1.

One Show is on fire again - Christine who? Adrian who? That will be a relief for Danny Cohen, and a major disappointment for GeorgeS and everyone else at ITV.

EE is having a fantastic week, even without (I think?) any major storyline, unlike Corrie - which sunk alarmingly from its Monday night spike.

HIGNFY firing on all cylinders again, aided no doubt by ITV's latest flop (to answer the question "Monte Carlo or Bust?", I think the answer is very definitely "bust"), and that's two really strong episodes on the trot in qualitative terms. Rumours of it being past it are premature.

And a resurgence for Reggie. I hope this does find something of an audience for its last couple of episodes. I doubt it will return, but it's a travesty that such a well-conceived and executed show, which is truly very funny and well acted by an A-list cast, should have been getting sub 3m audiences. Something nearer to 4m is about acceptable, even if still slightly tragic.

Shame on you, British viewing public.

Good numbers for the Ch4 doc on the deficit. Not watched yet, but heard good things about it. It clearly caught the mood.

Matt Baker (Strictly, Countryfile, The One Show this week in Jason Manford's absence) can do no wrong at the moment.
Will be of interest to see how TOS rates with Chris Evans taking the helm on Friday night.

Starting Coronation Street away from BBC1's junction is really hurting it. If BBC1 started airing hour longs from 7pm I think we'd see Coronation Street suffer on Monday's and friday's (which is where they were going with the hour long The One Show on Friday night's, I think).

If possible, I think anniversary week Coronation Street should have an episode every night but whether that's possible I don't know - they must be filming a lot just to keep up with present demand.

A good night for BBC1, who have Tuesday's, Thursday's and Friday's sorted for audience. Monday just needs the filler to improve slightly and Wednesday seems weak considering the lack of competition from ITV because of the constant stop/start from the football.