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Old 28-10-2010, 22:59
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I may be bitter as these were my two favourites but one thing ive noticed afterwards is that neither of these 2 have done many of the club tour gigs. Now, before anyone says anything it doesnt matter what you think of them they usually are guaranteed gigs on the circuit afterwards.

However, as they werent in the sing off it is FYD and diva Fever that have got the circuit gigs and nicolo and storm have missed out. Now

1) i think its unfair that Storm went out after FYD but doesnt have the opportunityto do the gigs

2) thatboth of these were part of the original 12, and dont have the opportunities that the wildcards have.

so not only were they out before they should be (IMO of course) but they are both struggling to get decent money from the club tour which they are normally guaranteed to do!!! Annoyed!!
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:03
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How come they miss out Lisa?
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:05
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Forget the wildcard thing. It was just a mechanism for the telly. They are all equally worthy of being in the final.

Having said that, Nicolo and Storm are not in doing gigs for one reason and one reason only. They are crap. Nobody wants to see them. They are not in demand. They suck.

Get over it.
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:06
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Becuase the nightclubs have one set night per week to have the x factor contestants so they can only have one of the 2, so they have the later one per week i.e. the one in the sing off. there are only 2 clubs i know that have had both from each week.
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:09
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Forget the wildcard thing. It was just a mechanism for the telly. They are all equally worthy of being in the final.

Having said that, Nicolo and Storm are not in doing gigs for one reason and one reason only. They are crap. Nobody wants to see them. They are not in demand. They suck.

Get over it.
Actually, Storm had a very good voice with a lot of range. I think they were both screwed over by the producers, though - they were made into camp novelty acts & given terrible song choices. Plus, they just didn't connect with the viewing public, for whatever reason.
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:13
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Actually, Storm had a very good voice with a lot of range. I think they were both screwed over by the producers, though - they were made into camp novelty acts & given terrible song choices. Plus, they just didn't connect with the viewing public, for whatever reason.
I agree that Storm has a good foce. I also agree that they were both cannon fodder.

As soon as he walked onstage in the auditions and said his name was Storm, Simon saw an opportunity. He was a **** to call himsle Storm and made to look a **** by the show's machine.
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:15
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I saw a ytube vid of Nicolo singing somewhere the other week. I thought it was one of these club shows. He looked very lonely and a touch self concsious.

Found a link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc-_ik_LNQg
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:18
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I agree it was the production that screwed, particularly Storm over. He came into the show as a serious singer with a pretty good voice, and he is put on stage with bright pink hair and portrayed as a novelty act, nobody was going to take him seriously, I feel sorry for the guy.

Cowell knows before the finalists are chosen who he wants to sign and the rest are chosen or manipulated not to be too much competition.
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Old 28-10-2010, 23:35
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I really feel for Storm. I really like his voice and I was hoping they'd treat him better.
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Old 29-10-2010, 00:56
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Forget the wildcard thing. It was just a mechanism for the telly. They are all equally worthy of being in the final.

Having said that, Nicolo and Storm are not in doing gigs for one reason and one reason only. They are crap. Nobody wants to see them. They are not in demand. They suck.

Get over it.
What a load of rubbish this is! seriously, im not saying they are less worthy,but whoever is out on a double elimination will get screwed over as the clubs only timetabled one contestant per week as usual.

In this way whoever goes out first on a double elimination week will not get as many gigs! and tbh how is that fair onthe ones that have gone out later than ones who have got loads of gigs!
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Old 29-10-2010, 01:14
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Well that's one good thing to come out for John going out, that he will get plenty of gigs on the circuit.
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Old 29-10-2010, 01:33
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yeah and i dont begrude him that, but they shoud all have that opportunity, for 4 people there will be less gigs no matter when they go out its just down to the logistics for the clubs
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Old 29-10-2010, 06:40
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I would rather John, Nicolo and Storm were still in the competition instead of Wagner, Bell Amie and One Direction.
All three of those ex-competitiors are good singers in my opinion.
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Old 29-10-2010, 08:19
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Maybe Storm is waiting for his pink hair to grow out before he makes any public appearances.
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Old 29-10-2010, 08:26
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I don't know anything about the club circuit, but I did find it a bit peculiar that they stopped the double eliminations so early on. I thought they were going to do doubles for a while longer seeing as there's still so many contestants left. It does make me think that Nicolo and Storm had been screwed over. They were both excellent singers but were destroyed by the persona's they were given.

It was obvious from the start that both of them had no place on the show. They were both given a reasonable amount of airtime yet there was no real buzz about them. The producers seemed to take one trait from them and turned them both into novelty acts from that. Storm, the aging rocker and Nicolo, the stroppy diva. None of the other contestants had been messed with like that.
I did think Nicolo had a reasonable fanbase though and I was surprised he left so early. I voted for him
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Old 29-10-2010, 08:27
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Forget the wildcard thing. It was just a mechanism for the telly. They are all equally worthy of being in the final.

Having said that, Nicolo and Storm are not in doing gigs for one reason and one reason only. They are crap. Nobody wants to see them. They are not in demand. They suck.

Get over it.
Why would any adult say that to another adult unless he was deliberatly trying to wind someone up?
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Old 29-10-2010, 08:33
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Good point Lisa and one that hadn't occured to me. So if we accept the logic that the less worthy acts leave first then FYD are less worthy than Storm but did better out of how they got the boot.
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Old 29-10-2010, 09:00
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Actually, Storm had a very good voice with a lot of range. I think they were both screwed over by the producers, though - they were made into camp novelty acts & given terrible song choices. Plus, they just didn't connect with the viewing public, for whatever reason.
Get your ears tested, obviously needed
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Old 29-10-2010, 09:44
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I don't know anything about the club circuit, but I did find it a bit peculiar that they stopped the double eliminations so early on. I thought they were going to do doubles for a while longer seeing as there's still so many contestants left. It does make me think that Nicolo and Storm had been screwed over. They were both excellent singers but were destroyed by the persona's they were given.

It was obvious from the start that both of them had no place on the show. They were both given a reasonable amount of airtime yet there was no real buzz about them. The producers seemed to take one trait from them and turned them both into novelty acts from that. Storm, the aging rocker and Nicolo, the stroppy diva. None of the other contestants had been messed with like that.
I did think Nicolo had a reasonable fanbase though and I was surprised he left so early. I voted for him
Totally agree. Especially after the way they were treated on the show. Nicolo was given a very poor song choice, over-the-top production which drowned out his voice and those stupid shades which made him look like a prat!

Storm imo got it even worse. He had a very confident rock voice with clean pitching and a strong tone. Louis turned him into a glam rock Pokemon with song choices which didn't go beyond 80s pop rock anthems and absurd staging. Simon's comments were particularly cruel as well, hammering home the aging, desperate and failed rocker aspect (though still admitting in a throwaway fashion that he had a good voice), even though the X-factor is about giving second chances to those who have never had the breaks in life (to be fair to Simon he now thinks he misjudged Storm and actually likes him). The final performance was simply an insult - they must have known it was a spit-image staging of Peter Kay's spoof "Geraldine" performance of the same song! To be fair Storm's voice was unusually for him a bit rough and flat at the start of the song, but he did have a bad throat infection (which unlike XF chosen ones like Cher etc wasn't mentioned in the show) and the distracting dancers, fireworks and explosions on the stage probably didn't help him focus either. And after all that they now screw up his gigs! He's well out of it.
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Old 29-10-2010, 10:26
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Totally agree. Especially after the way they were treated on the show. Nicolo was given a very poor song choice, over-the-top production which drowned out his voice and those stupid shades which made him look like a prat!

Storm imo got it even worse. He had a very confident rock voice with clean pitching and a strong tone. Louis turned him into a glam rock Pokemon with song choices which didn't go beyond 80s pop rock anthems and absurd staging. Simon's comments were particularly cruel as well, hammering home the aging, desperate and failed rocker aspect (though still admitting in a throwaway fashion that he had a good voice), even though the X-factor is about giving second chances to those who have never had the breaks in life (to be fair to Simon he now thinks he misjudged Storm and actually likes him). The final performance was simply an insult - they must have known it was a spit-image staging of Peter Kay's spoof "Geraldine" performance of the same song! To be fair Storm's voice was unusually for him a bit rough and flat at the start of the song, but he did have a bad throat infection (which unlike XF chosen ones like Cher etc wasn't mentioned in the show) and the distracting dancers, fireworks and explosions on the stage probably didn't help him focus either. And after all that they now screw up his gigs! He's well out of it.
Totally agree with the points made, tbh to me its not a queston of whether you liked Nicolo or Storm or not, its about everybody getting a fair chance andto me these 2 in particular havent either on the show or after it.

I know Storm had a reall good conversation with Simon afterwards whre Simon indeed said he was sorry hed gone and had misjudged him and i know Storm wants to write for other artists and i believe this is the way he will go in the future.i think it may be even harder for Nicolo if he hasnt got that songwriting background

He not only had a bad throat that Saturday but had spent ot of his week at a drop in centre as he had food poisoning so i believe that was why his performance wasnt up to scratch. He told me that he wouldnt have been able to perform the sing off properly due to having lost his voice totally (though his sing off song was going to be Hands to heaven by Breathe which ive since heard him perform and it was bloody awesome!!!

Im glad ther are people who agree with me on this point, unfortunately in thelast day or so i have heard that Storm is not longer available for gigs under Industry music so i guess he may have pulled himself off the circuit altogether, or been able to get out his contract an may go home where i guess he may get treated better.I know he was very confused abut the reaction of the British public to him and had lost a huge amount of confidence afterwards and was very self questioning when i spoke to him at length, as had Nicolo, not a allte arrogant performer that they portrayed him as. Im actually more annoyed with these twos tretmet than i ever wa with danyls last yr!!!
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Old 29-10-2010, 10:28
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Get your ears tested, obviously needed
Whether or not you like him, Storm had a better voice than most of the others in the contest, & being so snide isn't going to change that fact.
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