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What has happened to the promised Foxsat HDR upgrade? |
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I have a funny feeling Humax will try their best to prevent this from happening, seems to be a trend here in the UK to lock everything down.
Would be good if raydon altered the current firmware to prevent automatic download of newer firmware so that it Humax do alter stuff to prevent it being hacked again we have a choice as to update or not. Altering the Humax portion of the firmware to disable updates would be illegal - raydon certainly wouldn't do it. |
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#252 |
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Altering the Humax portion of the firmware to disable updates would be illegal
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Fair enough. When I say "illegal" I just meant "against the rules" really - raydon wouldn't do it.
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The HD Fox T2 has an ftp function. Hopefully Humax may decide to add all these functions to the firmware.
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The HD Fox T2 has an ftp function. Hopefully Humax may decide to add all these functions to the firmware.
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Harsh words, at best it would breach copyright rules or something which is a civil matter nor criminal.
Copying recordings of unencrypted broadcasts is also permitted for personal use. |
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The HDR runs a variant of Linux called busybox which is GPL licensed, extending it is specifically allowed I believe.
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The HDR runs a variant of Linux called busybox which is GPL licensed, extending it is specifically allowed I believe.
Copying recordings of unencrypted broadcasts is also permitted for personal use. You can quite happily obtain the GPL portions of the code and do as the GPL permits with it, but that doesn't give you the right to put your own modified code on the device. I'm not saying you aren't allowed (although I do suspect there will be a clause somewhere in the EULA that prevents you from doing so), I'm just pointing out that the GPL itself doesn't allow you to mod your HDR. |
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For info, the firmware isn't covered by the GPL, only portions of it are.
You can quite happily obtain the GPL portions of the code and do as the GPL permits with it, but that doesn't give you the right to put your own modified code on the device. I'm not saying you aren't allowed (although I do suspect there will be a clause somewhere in the EULA that prevents you from doing so), I'm just pointing out that the GPL itself doesn't allow you to mod your HDR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization Now reverse engineering Humax proprietry code for use on another platform, thats illegal, but we aren't doing that. |
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The Linux kernel is GPLv2 only. Busybox (which is not Linux) is also GPLv2 only.
The settop program which provides much of the functionality is proprietary to Humax. |
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The HDR runs a variant of Linux called busybox which is GPL licensed, extending it is specifically allowed I believe.
Edit: Oops - didn't see the post above mine sorry, which says the same thing I'm saying. |
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The Linux kernel is GPLv2 only. Busybox (which is not Linux) is also GPLv2 only.
The settop program which provides much of the functionality is proprietary to Humax. |
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Adding FTP etc is specifically allowed, yes. What isn't allowed is opening up Humax's code that runs on top of busybox, this is proprietary software. This is the code you'd have to alter in order to stop the box downloading OTA updates.
Edit: Oops - didn't see the post above mine sorry, which says the same thing I'm saying. |
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You dont have to alter any code, just go into menu and set it on manual update, I have set mine as a precaution!
If you mean the manual update option it does not turn off auto updates, just allows you to access updates from other than the normal source (if there were any). |
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Afaik there is no such option on Freesat boxes, certainly there is not on Humax freesat boxes.
If you mean the manual update option it does not turn off auto updates, just allows you to access updates from other than the normal source (if there were any). May have to pull the power overnight if you are! |
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Are you sure of that?
May have to pull the power overnight if you are! |
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I don't think perpetually stopping the box from doing its housekeeping tasks is a particularly good idea in the medium-long term.
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Are you sure of that?
May have to pull the power overnight if you are! |
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Did it for around 12 months with no problem, just no thumbnails, what do you think it might do then?
It just doesn't seem to be a very good idea to inhibit a process that the manufacturer thought it necessary to include. Of course, if all it were doing was making those daft thumbnails and looking for updates it wouldn't do any harm. |
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...Of course, if all it were doing was making those daft thumbnails and looking for updates it wouldn't do any harm.
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Beta release tomorrow?
Not sure how reliable this info is, but the source is normally dependable. http://myhumax.org/forum/topic/impen...ftware-release |
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I am interested to know what
"Dolby Digital downmix included" means. |
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I am interested to know what
"Dolby Digital downmix included" means. |
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As long as it is option-driven. I wonder if this accidentally fixes the bug which keeps the SPDIF output active (but mute) when you put it into standby while it is still recording? One can hope as they must have been fiddling in the relevant area of code.
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No mention of sorting out the myriad UI niggles that make an otherwise superb piece of kit seem slightly amateurish and unfinished from time to time.
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