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Old 25-11-2010, 13:02
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I'd also like to know why we haven't got 4 HD, it's available on freeview HD.
Fail to see the relevance . The lack of CH4 HD is nothing to do with Humax, or the delayed firmware upgrade
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Old 29-11-2010, 23:21
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Fail to see the relevance . The lack of CH4 HD is nothing to do with Humax, or the delayed firmware upgrade
Well if the new firmware can decrypt Sky then I'm not going to complain.
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Old 30-11-2010, 09:36
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Well if the new firmware can decrypt Sky then I'm not going to complain.
Pardon ?. This thread is labelled what has happened to the foxsat-hdr upgrade. What relevance is the lack or otherwise of C4-HD. Lack of CH4-HD is entirely down to CH 4, not Freesat or Humax or any other Freesat box manufacturer.
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Old 30-11-2010, 10:05
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I think swedish cook was joking.
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Old 30-11-2010, 12:02
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This is the most recent emailI have received concerning updates on all;

Dear Humax user,

Launched in late 2005, the PVR-9200T was our first twin tuner digital TV recorder and is still widely used and appreciated by many thousands of you. We know this because we are still supporting it, providing software updates for it (see below), and getting requests to purchase it.

To celebrate the happy event of the units fifth birthday, we're giving all owners of PVR-9200T's (and other PVR-9200T variants, TB, TBX etc) the opportunity to own one of our recently released Freeview+ HD twin tuner PVR boxes for FREE!!.

Full details on how to enter this free competition are available by clicking here.


Software updates
Software updates for the following products are confirmed for next month:-

PVR9300T, PVR9200T, PVR9150T
PVR9300T: 20th - 22nd Dec: Version UPTTF 1.00.23 (8th time broadcast)
PVR9200T: 22nd - 24th Dec: Version UPTTF 1.00.23 (8th time broadcast)
PVR9150T: 29th - 31st Dec: Version UPTTF 1.00.23 (8th time broadcast)

HD & HDR-FOX T2, 3rd - 6th Dec
HD-FOX T2: Version KZTFT 1.01.12 (3rd time broadcast)
HDR-FOX T2: Version FHTCP 1.01.09 (3rd time broadcast)
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Old 30-11-2010, 12:29
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LOL, don't you just love marketing speak. Translation: "It's been five years and yes we are still fixing bugs and creating new ones."
Yes I do know the PVR-9200T had some major functional updates early in its life to make it compatible with Freeview+ but the rest of the updates are just bug fixes and only a marketing person could make a positive statement about taking five years to find and fix bugs.
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Old 30-11-2010, 12:46
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LOL, don't you just love marketing speak. Translation: "It's been five years and yes we are still fixing bugs and creating new ones."
Yes I do know the PVR-9200T had some major functional updates early in its life to make it compatible with Freeview+ but the rest of the updates are just bug fixes and only a marketing person could make a positive statement about taking five years to find and fix bugs.

Did you find the rattle yet that you threw out of the pram
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Old 30-11-2010, 21:06
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Did you find the rattle yet that you threw out of the pram
Que? WTF?
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Old 01-12-2010, 08:56
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Did you find the rattle yet that you threw out of the pram
For most, sane, reasonable, people lamenting a company not fixing bugs for years on end does not constitute 'throwing your rattle out of the pram'.

There are still a whole load of little niggles with the Foxsat that it doesn't look as if they are going to address in this update. It's particularly annoying because in a lot of cases the fix would be trivial. It's just that they can't be bothered.

It's still an excellent piece of kit, though.
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:25
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For most, sane, reasonable, people lamenting a company not fixing bugs for years on end does not constitute 'throwing your rattle out of the pram'.

There are still a whole load of little niggles with the Foxsat that it doesn't look as if they are going to address in this update. It's particularly annoying because in a lot of cases the fix would be trivial. It's just that they can't be bothered.

It's still an excellent piece of kit, though.
No but constantly bleating about it at every possible opportunity does. The poster jumps on every thread with the slightest chink of relevance with the same diatribe. It's getting pretty boring. If the hdr is so bad why does he not simply get rid and let the rest of us enjoy what is overall a great piece of kit.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:05
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Nearly finished the latest round of testing and subject to no issues being found then it can be released. I won't be drawn on a date to get hung by but everything looks positive.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:07
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Nice one Bob_Cat
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:36
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They are really busy at Humax, this just came up on twitter.

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Old 01-12-2010, 10:41
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let the rest of us enjoy what is overall a great piece of kit.
I agree (as I often have) that the HDR is a great bit of kit and by far the best on the market. Unfortunately it is let down by poor software which, if Humax could only be bothered, could easily be fixed.
As long as Humax keep holding up the one single case where they have actually added functionality to a box after selling it I will keep pointing out how bad their record actually is, regardless of how much that annoys the fanbois.
There is a simple way to get me to shut up - persuade Humax to fix the HDR or release the code so I can.
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Old 01-12-2010, 10:54
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No but constantly bleating about it at every possible opportunity does. The poster jumps on every thread with the slightest chink of relevance with the same diatribe. It's getting pretty boring. If the hdr is so bad why does he not simply get rid and let the rest of us enjoy what is overall a great piece of kit.
Do you not think that it is fair to inform possible new purchasers of potential niggles before they purchase rather than give them an over-hyped rose tinted glasses view of the boxes saying they have no faults/bugs? Or is it a necessary condition of freesat users that they ignore the faults and shortcomings of the platform and its equipment and merely state its advantages?
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:02
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Badvok, Don't dis Humax, at least they are ten times better than Panasonic - They do provide updates with improved functionality and bug fixes, they do reply to support emails, their support teams do help with problems, and they don't ignore their customers. I do sometimes wish I hadn't upgraded to a Blu Ray recorder, it could be such a fantastic piece of kit if Panasonic would just sort it out !!
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:58
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Badvok, Don't dis Humax, at least they are ten times better than Panasonic - They do provide updates with improved functionality and bug fixes, they do reply to support emails, their support teams do help with problems, and they don't ignore their customers. I do sometimes wish I hadn't upgraded to a Blu Ray recorder, it could be such a fantastic piece of kit if Panasonic would just sort it out !!
...and that one post alone makes me sigh with great relief that I did NOT go for the Panasonic (after a LOT of reading etc. - and we were VERY tempted) but went for the Foxsat HDR instead and have stayed with it ...

True, we've had our moments with it and its foibles but in the main it has given us 100's of hours of great entertainment when we've needed it to.
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Old 01-12-2010, 19:59
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Badvok, Don't dis Humax, at least they are ten times better than Panasonic - They do provide updates with improved functionality and bug fixes, they do reply to support emails, their support teams do help with problems, and they don't ignore their customers. I do sometimes wish I hadn't upgraded to a Blu Ray recorder, it could be such a fantastic piece of kit if Panasonic would just sort it out !!
I'm sorry to hear about your Panasonic experience but I have no experience of them to compare.
As for Humax, my experience obviously differs from yours. I have owned 4 different Humax STBs. Only one of those has had functionality added (Freeview+ added to 9200T). Two received very little in terms of updates and are still left with numerous bugs (HDCI-2000 and F2-FOXT). The fourth is a great machine let down by poor software that even Humax have admitted is pretty much as good as it will ever get (Foxsat HDR), and remember that iPlayer is not added functionality it was always supposed to be there to meet the Freesat spec.
Lastly, I have no means to get in touch with them to complain directly, all my emails go unanswered, my only option is to highlight my experiences on here, much to the annoyance of their fan-club.
I wish I could say I'm off to buy brand X but it really doesn't look like there is anything better than Humax such as they are.
I'm now looking at spending considerably more money by building my own HTPC, when I get the time, so I can finally ditch Humax for good.
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:13
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http://www.dtg.org.uk/industry/download_schedule.php

Going OTA 04/02/11

Wonder if it will be available to download beforehand!
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:22
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http://www.dtg.org.uk/industry/download_schedule.php

Going OTA 04/02/11

Wonder if it will be available to download beforehand!
That's V13, the current firmware
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:22
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Whoops rookie error ignore me! - It had my hopes up for a minute there
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Old 01-12-2010, 20:24
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http://www.dtg.org.uk/industry/download_schedule.php

Going OTA 04/02/11

Wonder if it will be available to download beforehand!
You've misread the page, that's the current version which has been available from 04/02/2010
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Old 02-12-2010, 00:20
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The fourth is a great machine let down by poor software that even Humax have admitted is pretty much as good as it will ever get (Foxsat HDR), and remember that iPlayer is not added functionality it was always supposed to be there to meet the Freesat spec.
Bit harsh, don't you think? By your own words it "doesn't look like there is anything better than Humax". Yet you single them out for scapegoating. Of course the HDR has bugs, so does all software. (Zero defect software is a myth, the cost of production is simply too high.) However, it is easily the equal of Sky+ HD, with the exception of the live pause bug. Only for that I would already own a second one!

I'm now looking at spending considerably more money by building my own HTPC, when I get the time, so I can finally ditch Humax for good.
If you have the money and lots of time and patience, it can offer a better experience. But it is not for the faint-hearted, nor the average consumer.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:53
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Tbh a lot of these "arguments" seem just for arguments sake on here and pizzes me off.We all want something different,extra,with our gadgets and I spose,largely, it's down to how much money you want to spend,but I've found with the Humax hdr no problems with the software that has niggled me in over a year.You get info,advice,etc from the Humax staff here (and how many brands do that?) and tbh I wonder why they bother sometimes with some of the distorted remarks on here.........It's a very good piece of kit.
PS Can't wait for the buffer record feature.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:38
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Badvok you state that BBC iplayer is not an added feature and that it was in the original Freesat spec.Show us the link to support that statement.

I have always been a "Fan" of Humax their support is far superior to most companies.If the tone of your emails is anything like your posts on here I could understand a reluctance by Humax (or any other company)to respond to you!!
I am not saying that Humax are perfect NO company is,but in the main I think that the Pros far outweigh the Cons when using their kit.
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