Ok a slight exaggeration but seems to be a bit of double standards here. And if the reason that Michelle got her first & final warning is because she did have a fight with Becki then its worse. Jason was majorly involved in the fighting on Fight Night & is unable to stop talking about nominations regardless of BB's warnings.

This show is becoming a farce!

It really is strange the double standards that BB is applying. Even Kitten's dismissal now seems peculiarly heavy-handed after the events which have followed. Behaviour which threatens other people is surely more serious than threats to damage property ... And how has Ahmed escaped censure? Yesterday he attacked Maureen with a spade. OK, Maureen is not expensive equipment - but hacking at it with a spade is scary, unbalanced behaviour.
It strikes me that BB takes the view that men are somehow in control of their actions, while women - even when joking about - are somehow hysterical, untrustworthy lunatics ... BB is sexist.

I just think BB thought they were losing control a bit so they made an example out of Michelle, they know its not likely shes going to do anything else, i agree it was a bit harsh but dont think it has anything to do with the whole Becki incident.

I totally agree with you. The guys just seem to get a slap on the wrist. But Kitten & Emma's treatment seem so much worse now, in view of how Michelle has been treated when you compare it with Victor, Jason & Ahmed. Its beginning to look like its staged to me.

Stuart has had lots of warnings for the most perfetic reasons which arent fair compared to the stuff Vic and Jason has done

I'd LOVE to know why they have a spade... there is no Veg patch this year, and no chickens to muck out either

Well if it has nothing to do with the Becki incident then why was she the only person to get a first and final warning? She could of simply been given a warning like the others. Or they all should of been given the same. But the problem there is Stu already had one. And it would be very unpopular with the public to give them to Nadia, Dan & Shell.

I agree she should have only been given a warning like the rest but as i said maybe they had to draw the line somewhere and as it was Michelle was pretending to light the straw,that they made an example of her.

Im gutted by that warning shes been given,i want her to win.

That would explain it.

I agree it's ridiculously harsh to give Michelle a first and final warning when she'd done no worse than anyone else and when J & V have so blatantly flouted the rules.

They have talked about Nominations but then there have been LOADS of times when the others have been talking about things that could be thought of as talking about nominations. Saying I hate x and don't you agree is just the same as what J& V were saying at times!

If Michelle did indeed have a proper fight with Becki then this is a further explanation of why it's her first and last but really nothing any of the others have done have been breaking the rules, Ahmed's plates only deprives the other HM's of plates, decapitating Matilda hurts noone, talking about stuff doesn't hurt anyone but burning equipment come under the same category of what Kitten did with that microphone. It's physical damage of, for a better phrase BB itself. It's interfering with (it taking it out of the diary room), damaging it and threatening to destroy it as well.

IT IS NOT IN THE SAME BALLPARK! Simple as that, they are not comparable.
Of course the seperate rules are not balanced, if that was the case then you could get kicked out for breaking something, after you if you hit someone once you are kicked out so of course they are uneven.

I don't really agree with the fact that Michelle was given only one chance, but maybe they're fed up of having to dish out warnings. Plus, setting fire to something's a pretty dangerous thing to do. OK, so it was in the garden, but they probably have to be very careful about health and safety. Hence the security guards etc the minute the fight broke out.

Theyve made an example of Michelle to counterbalance the favouritism shes been getting recently and theyre trying to correct it.

I agree that breaking rules by talking isn't as dangerous/violent/disrespectful as physical damage to property. However, I maintain that, unless there's some other reason for it, it's too harsh to give Michelle a first and final warning for what she did - as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong, I didn't see it, I'm going by what I've read on the DS forums ) she'd made it clear that they weren't actually going to burn the camera, and there were other people involved who were equally culpable, who should have been given the same level of warning as here.

Also Ahmed's smashing the plates didn't just deprive people of plates - he could have hurt someone and the sheer "violence" of his actions could have made other HMs feel threatened. Similarly the (physically and verbally) threatening behaviour of Jason and Victor should have resulted in them being kicked out with Emma, or at least with them being given a final warning....

Ah well - I guess this IS Evil Big Brother..... We shouldn't expect them to be even handed or fair!

To be fair, Michelle was very naughty. Great, but naughty. Jason deserves some sort of honour for threatening to take Marco's head off imo.

Im not exactly sure I get ur point here. Im guessing your saying that damaging equipment is worse than damaging ppl. If I have that wrong I apologise.

If I have that right then OH MY GOD!!.

Talking about nominations 36 times is very much worse than ppl saying they dont like someone every know and then. I dont see the connection between the two.

BB has shown unfair towards certain members of the house. I just wonder if thats part of another plan they have.

What favouritism? The only HM's that benefit from that are Jason & Victor

What actually has happend to Michelle - Nothing thats what. They have given her a "Warning". Which they dish out like sweets. Ok they say its a final warning but what does that mean - you appear to be able to get large numbers of other kinds of warnings. PLus Michelle is good and rule abiding and very very unlikely to do anything else wrong - especially now. And she will discourage others.

Kitten had to go because she was disrupting the show - they had her in for ratings to draw people back to the show after BB4 and once her job was done she was out on her ear.

They don't want to be kicking HM's out. I doubt they give two *&*@'s about people talking about nominations and the "fight" (a lot of shouting with some pushing and shoving more like) got them loads of extra coverage and viewers.

Okay - here's a quick reality check for those who don't know:

THIS SHOW ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE, AND HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE, FAIR.

Just saying.

Now, back your soapboxes, people.

With 8 HMs after tonights eviction and only 28 days left I think that they will be looking to kick ppl out. Michelle has been made an example of and though she has not broken any rules in the past she has now. And who's to say she wont again.

Im assuming by the fact that you say "the fight - a lot of shouting with some pushing and shoving more like" that you dont actually class it as a fight. I dont agree with this at all. Jason & Victor were doing their usuall bully boy antics intimidating the other HMs. Thankfully Emma could stand up for herself. I would not of been so brave in her situation. The extra coverage & viewers I think came at too high a price. It was a manufactured situation, which the producers caused, but then could not control. At the time I said it would be the end of BB. Im not sure now if I was being a bit harsh, but I certainly did not enjoy it & have no wish to see stuff like that again.

I totally agree with your comments on why Kitten was brought in. But this just goes to emphasise why I think this BB has been staged.

Sorry did I miss when they said that there would be unfair advantage to certain HMs.

Oh and Im not on a soapbox - just giving my opinion like everyone else here.

Woah, there. That wasn't directed specifically at you, sweetheart. More the general gist of the forum at the moment.

I have seen many "fights" and this was well at the tame and under control end of the spectrum. It may have been unconfortable viewing for some people and that is fine - you do of course have a choice over what you watch when its on TV.

By using the word fight in this context we begin to devalue it. Just in the way the word racism and homophobia and bullying are used in these forumns. We may well be witnessing mild forms of these things but just to pick an example at random - if we start describing as a fight what happened in the house. then what of fights where people are actually injured? or killed?

Genuine strong emotions do sometimes make for uncomforable viewing because we are so used to the hyper controlled and sanitised foder the television normally feeds us. This is a million miles away from the actuall reality of the situation.

Call it a fight if you wish but this is a little like me bumping my car against a post while parking and calling it a road accident.

The rules/warnings groupies are becoming very obsessive.

I think we should have a system of warnings on here. Anyone discussing rulebreaking, favouritism, warnings and final warnings be banned from posting for one week.

All in favour say "aye".

Banning ppl from posting

NO NEED DUDE!

I think Jason and Victor would have been sent packing by BB if Emma and Kitten hadn't been kicked out already.
After all it would not look very good with 4 housemates being given the boot.

Really cannot understand though why Michelle has been given her first and final warning.