no, it has a far smaller audience, but my point was that the rumours were crap, not the shows

btw just cuz a show is crap don't mean prince won't appear on it, he did appear on the finale of american idol in 2007, he just isn't booked to appear on the x factor on any dates at all. he'll be in the states starting his new welcome 2 america tour at the time. he has nothing to promote in the uk, thus no shows or appearances are currently scheduled

he was in london last week though. you didn't read that anywhere in any "news"papers or webshites though did you? just cuz you read something don't mean it's true, and just cuz you don't read it don't mean it didn't happen

he's in belgium at the moment btw in case anyone was wondering

ah well - is there a source for Prince denying it?

Iain

yup, prince himself

btw the new MJ cover has just been changed to remove the prince symbol that was put on without permission

and a facebook page that is named after, but not run by a member of the current band (this month) that posted he was going to play glasto after reading the news, has deleted the post and posted to say it wasn't true after all. ergo if you believed what they said in the first place (which wasn't true), you will believe when they say it's not happening

well, at the moment the source I have is a random person saying that Prince has denied it.

I was wondering if you had an actual source.

Because at the moment it's no better than the other random person saying the opposite.

and Google drew a blank with 'Prince denies Glastonbury'.

Iain

what random person is that?

right now you have no proof whatsoever that he ever said he is going to play it, because he never did. yet i've told you that he has said he isn't playing it

so right now you have no official word on an official website to say either way, so what are you going to believe? whatever you choose doesn't matter, come june next year you'll see he won't be playing, and you'll have your proof right there. i don't care if you believe me or trust me or not, but i can assure you that's what was said, and i don't make stuff up

and there is a secret last minute gig in belgium tonight at viage btw

The random person is you.

No disrespect intended, but as far as I know you are just sone random person posting on a forum.

If Prince has denied it, I'm just wondering if that denial is in the public domain?

Iain

My favourite Prince song has to be When Doves Cry. It is simply perfect!

Lol so prince is going to be performing without any audience?

I never tire of this,but my Favs are "joy in repetition" and "ballad of Dorothy Parker"

i'm not a random person. you haven't choosen a person at random and asked an opinion, have you?

prince doesn't make public comments on most things, particularly public denials of things that aren't going to happen. he does have an outlet for these denials, but it's not appropriate to mention that on this site

there's no official word on him appearing at glastonbury, doing an audience with prince tv special on ITV, and appearing at the x factor final, simply because none of these are true. as with most stars, they choose not to entertain made up stories by commenting on them publically. if he was going to apear on those shows it would be announced officially. as he isn't going to appear, he has confirmed via his people that it's not happening, but as such it's not been posted on any official site, and won't be posted on any official site, just like the rumours that appear every single year that he will play glastonbury, that get the similar silent treatment from him

there is a reason why he won't play glastonbury, yet he has played other festivals recently and played coachella a couple of years ago, and it's simply that glastonbury has so many acts it doesn't pay headliners a lot of money, the acts that play that slot do so for prestige and to promote sales. prince has no interest in that, his main source of income is from personal appearance fees, and he simply won't accept a lower fee so he won't be offered a lower fee a second time. he will do his secret shows and aftershows with lower overall incomes, but those events are arranged by him and his people, he does it because he wants to, and he keeps all the profits. glastonbury can't and won't offer headline acts more money as they can't afford it, plus if they increase fees to headliners,they would be forced to increase fees across the board, such as to the acts playing before headliners

anyway, in about 6 to 8 weeks you'll see he won't appear on the tv shows that have been rumoured, and in about 7 months you'll see he won't play glastonbury. by all means by a ticket for glastonbury if you don't believe me, but you have been warned

no, there is a tv show called "an audience with (INSERT NAME OF "CELEBRITY") where they have someone like joe pasquale or simply red doing a show on ITV with a mix of jokes and music and asking questions from their "celebrity" "friends", who are 99% made up of non entities from coronation street, holby city, eastenders and hollyoaks, who don't really know the person performing, other than having seen them on the telly before, and the person who is performing usually has no clue who his "friends" are

the show's audience consists entirely of brain dead housewives and desperate people who have nothing better to watch on bbc2 or c4. the show almost makes the x factor seem entertaining. it's almost like the saturday evening equivalent of daybreak

anyways, there was a rumour in the media recently that he had agreed to appear on that show, but this is not true. there was also another story in the media that he would appear on the final of the x factor, but again that is not true. there was then a third story in the media that he would play glastonbury, and just like every other year that glastonbury rumours appear, that is also not true. usually it's the same firm of publicists that sends out these stories, simply to generate cheap/free publicity to promote the shows

well, from where i'm standing, you are just a random person, posting on an internet forum.

i don't know you from Adam, and you haven't provided any source for your information.


given that there have been rumours before, i'd be surprised if he did play Glastonbury, although acts are often rumoured to appear who do play, and for whatever reason, the rumours do appear to be a bit more substantial this time.

Iain

well it's understandable you don't believe someone from a forum, but i'm not a random person, i'm in the loop, it's just that you don't know me and i don't know you. you'll see in the coming weeks and months that i'm right, but by that time you'll probably have forgotten. i'm just not prepared to give up my sources. i do have phone numbers and email addresses of band members past and present, as well as current members of his camp, i don't rely on facebook and twitter for my info, thus i don't fall for fake accounts or people mistakenly posting rumour as fact (and the account in question later posted that it wasn't true)

let me ask you what is more "substantial" this time about the rumours, as opposed to any other time? i know for a fact they aren't true, so i'm interested to learn what makes an untrue story seem more substantial compared to another untrue story? all i've seen is the same untrue story copied around various gossip/news sites like this one, none of which provided a source for the "news"

Guys, just share the love!

Does anyone else think When Doves Cry was his best song?

i don't mean to sound like i'm having a go by the way.

but to me, you are just a random poster on an internet forum. anyone could post on a forum saying anything.


they've been a bit vague in the past - there are rumours of just about everyone most years. but with Prince this year, the rumour was that it was Eavis himself, and even the made it to the front page of the local newspaper a couple of weeks ago.

still, of course, just speculation, but a level of specualtion greater than in previous years.

and as i said above, i'll still be surprised if he does play.

Iain

nah - everyone knows it was when u were mine!

Iain

It's very nice that you're in the loop, but how do people here know that's true? It could quite easily be as true as me saying I'm Prince myself.

Well we know thats rubbish for a start because I am

my name is prince (and i am funky)

do you live near glastonbury? is that why it was front news of the local paper? local papers don't normally print stuff like that on the front page unless relevant to the locality

it's still not true btw, you won't find the slightest bit of evidence regarding it as a result. eavis has been trying year on year to get him, but he's not interested. a few years ago he did comment on his website under an alias about how there are rumours each year that are completely unfounded

personally i'm happy he isn't playing, as i don't think i could stand the mud and rain etc, and i couldn't not go if he did. i'm too used to small gigs where you are closer to prince if standing at the back of the club than you would be front row at glastonbury. the weird about glasto is you get a better view and sound watching it on the telly, especially with bbc HD, but prince would probably only play if his performance wasn't broadcast (and that's another reason why he wouldn't play)

you just need to trust me. you'll find out in a few weeks/months that what i've said is right, so time will tell

right now there are no plans for any uk shows/appearances, although he was in the uk just last week

his main focus at the moment is his current european shows, upcoming US shows, the release of 20ten deluxe (an extended version of the album given away with the newspaper), and his brand new album that's finished (with a new drummer and bassist, both who haven't yet played live with him)

It was a good night last night to be a big Prince fan on the X-Factor thread. As Aiden did 'Nothing Compares To U', you could first correct those who complained it wasn't an American song (it was American Anthem night), then correct those who said Prince released it first, then correct those who said he recorded it first, and finally correct those who said he wrote it for Sinead!

well, a couple of hours away, but our W H Smith has the local paper from down there.

the point was that usually its just a fairly vague rumour, but this year, it was that Eavis has signed up U2, Prince and most likely Coldplay, and that unlike precious years it had made the front page of the local paper.


charming that you're happy he's not playing and people won't get that chance to see him.

its not as though if he did play that would stop you seeing him at smaller venues. but i agree - the aftershow i saw at the O2 was fantastic.

Iain

prince didn't release it first, not under his name anyway, it was originally released by a protoge act called "the family", prince recorded the album pretty much single handedly and then got st paul peterson to redo princes original lead vocals. it was just an album track. sinead later covered it, and then prince added it to his live show after it became a hit. he later put a live version on his hits compilation

demos of the album featuring princes lead vox are circulating, and an alternate version of nothing compares 2 u with drums that are similar to sineads version, although the original version had no drums at all. princes original vocals were wiped from the mastertapes and replaced with st pauls

i'd rather he played somewhere other than glastonbury, doing a proper prince gig than part of a festival. even the "festival" gigs he did this year weren't your usual festival gigs in that he wasn't headliner on a day of a number of acts, in fact i think only one date was part of a festival, but that day was a prince gig with prince related acts as warm up, thus you weren't at a gig that was half full of people who weren't specifically interested in seeing prince. coachela was a proper festival show and he headlined that (and arrived on stage late). coachella is the american equivilent of glastonbury, but still quite different. he's done a few other festival gigs in the past, but i'm sure most of them didn't have him playing to folk not specifically there to see prince, he had a night to himself

i was front row at all the o2 aftershows btw, i was also at all the main shows. an incredible 2 months. i even saw prince turn up at another small club to see some of his band jam on an off night from the o2. if you listen hard you can hear me on the 21 nights cd in the audience. they didn't put any of the bits of me singing into the mic on it though