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Old 05-11-2010, 11:25
Ederrin gracie
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I agree she wasnt great as project manager. No marketing, crap shop layout. Not to mention they opened so late, some bloke had to come and see them. Having said that she has more to lose than others. Getting candidates to stand in the shop window was a stupid idea...what was she thinking?
Not only that but having the army bloke and Johanna be reduced to shouting whilst hold an item of clothing looked kind of embarrassing.Desperate times call for desperate measures but it look odd

Chris on the other hand, seems to be doing better and better each week.
Did u mean chris (the blonde one) or christopher (the short brunette)..Cause the short guy that was with liz and joanna did nothing..And i'm not sold on chris, his diction & robotic demeanour is goin to hurt him when the stakes get serious
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:09
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Originally Posted by Tercet2
Face puller? Not in the Jennifer Maguire or Yasmina league?
Hope so, cos so far this series hasn't grabbed me. Doesn't flow, too many things feel set up cos they provide a tv segment with no explanation of how they occured (eg 16 rolls). Doesn't feel (to me) that anyone is taking it as seriously in the way we have seen in the past. Btw they don't use the same production crew for each series. Perhaps they got the newbies in this time?
There was a point in one of the head-on interviews where she rolled her eyes back in her head at the thought of retail, and they stayed up there for a good second or two. She's very hammy - not so much in the boardroom, but in back of shot her face has had more opinions than half the rest of the candidates put together.

I agree regarding this series - hopefully it picks up. The tasks have been repetitive and generic and the editing has been chopped to hell. I could understand sacrificing coherence if they had big cartoony characters to carry it, but they don't. Their villains are all either gone, wedged into their Redemption Arc so hard you wonder if this wasn't their aim all along, or are Jamie, where the show can't decide if he's a hard-grafting morallist beseiged by shrieking women or a snobby bossy braggart who calls himself actual champagne.

And in terms of people who comes acros as competent? The best candidate thus far (IMO) is a convicted racist, Christopher's a fraudster who got fired for watching porn in the office, Stella couldn't give less of a crap and is only pretending 50% of the time at best that she does (watch her reaction to seeing Alex's ad on the Jumbotron again. It's comical), Liz is generic as hell, Alex is Lucinda as a boy, and Jamie can't decide if he's good or evil. If it weren't for that bikini shizz with Stella in Week2 I might be rooting for Chris, but because of that I'm kind of icky on him as well.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:37
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" Getting candidates to stand in the shop window was a stupid idea...what was she thinking? "
Why was it stupid, because Nick said so? Did it or didnt it bring in the customers?
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Old 05-11-2010, 13:12
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Face puller? Not in the Jennifer Maguire or Yasmina league?
Are these 2 comments related, as neither of three women mentioned are exactly facepullers
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Old 05-11-2010, 21:31
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Are these 2 comments related, as neither of three women mentioned are exactly facepullers
I meant as in having a very expressive face i.e having their thoughts written all over it. Hadn't noticed that with Liz (will pay more attention now), but Jenny C and Yasmina couldn't keep theirs still for long.
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Old 05-11-2010, 22:08
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And in terms of people who comes acros as competent? The best candidate thus far (IMO) is a convicted racist, Christopher's a fraudster who got fired for watching porn in the office, Stella couldn't give less of a crap and is only pretending 50% of the time at best that she does (watch her reaction to seeing Alex's ad on the Jumbotron again. It's comical), Liz is generic as hell, Alex is Lucinda as a boy, and Jamie can't decide if he's good or evil. If it weren't for that bikini shizz with Stella in Week2 I might be rooting for Chris, but because of that I'm kind of icky on him as well.
Joanna pleaded guilty, and how often does that happen if the brief says, you'll get a smaller fine? Also means the taxi drivers were never went on the stand (just sold their story to papers).
http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.u...l/article.html

Christopher hasn't been found guilty of fraud. On bail doesn't mean that. Mind you it isn't just the bikini moment, where he was even worse than Chris. After 10 yrs in the army making up for lost time is ok, but not on national telly.

Alex isn't as deliberately hopeless as Lucinda. I think he wants the TV exposure yeah, but only to get a better job, not a media one.

But otherwise, yeah. Especially about Jamie. He tends to do the right things, but says some of the dumbest. Same could be said of Sugar though IMHO. I think he takes himself way too seriously. So far he's rated like Paul Tulip was. So falls over a cliff at the end? Stella is in steath mode. Says very little and is covered in teflon. Blipped once on the radar, direction currently unknown. Stubaggs will be the one showing 'learning'. So yeah, he's in the final
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Old 05-11-2010, 22:24
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I meant as in having a very expressive face i.e having their thoughts written all over it. Hadn't noticed that with Liz (will pay more attention now), but Jenny C and Yasmina couldn't keep theirs still for long.
Now, Jenny C also

This gets more confusing by the minute (especially since most of the intros this year show Stella pulling a face in the boardroom ).
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Old 05-11-2010, 22:56
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Now, Jenny C also

This gets more confusing by the minute (especially since most of the intros this year show Stella pulling a face in the boardroom ).
Sorry Jenny M. I also mean more than just an occassional expression.
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Old 07-11-2010, 00:01
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I thought the same, but to be honest, I was a bit underwhelmed by her performance as PM. She deffinatly is a frontrunner, but I expected more from her. I thought Paloma was actually the stronger PM this week - if you take away her boardroom meltdown, Paloma was really solid as a PM.
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Old 07-11-2010, 00:32
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I thought Paloma was actually the stronger PM this week - if you take away her boardroom meltdown, Paloma was really solid as a PM.
Yeah, she had the guys (especially Stuart and Alex) eating out of her hand
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Old 07-11-2010, 10:58
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I thought the same, but to be honest, I was a bit underwhelmed by her performance as PM. She deffinatly is a frontrunner, but I expected more from her. I thought Paloma was actually the stronger PM this week - if you take away her boardroom meltdown, Paloma was really solid as a PM.
Agree about Paloma. During the task I thought 'wow is this going to be her redemption episode this week', but I guess it wasn't to be.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:20
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I think Liz has been VERY lucky so far.

It's true anyone could have 'sold' that babygro...it sold itself.
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Yeah, I have to agree. A babygro hardly constitutes a complex product from the perspective of pitching and selling. The same would apply to the task set during the week she was project manager. Again, it was relatively straightforward. Would dearly love to see her project manage a more challenging task.

However, I'm inclined to agree with others, in that I suspect she will be a definite runner up, if not winner.
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Old 13-11-2010, 17:36
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Liz was mediocre at best as Project Manager. Her shop looked much worse and opened late. If the other side had not landed itself with the overpriced recycled suits and ties she would have lost hands down.
Um, her superior product selection was part of what made her a better PM than the other team's. She didn't have anyone who thought of running an ad, but she did have the initiative to negotiate a last-minute discount with the designers when it looked like she was losing.
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