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but a wiser man would have thought do i want a liar, manipulator, disloyal and disruptive person in my team, do i want a vicious and underhand individual who is not prepared to accept any responsibility for failure .
the fact is she was prepared to be dishonest disloyal in front of alan sugar .. any boss does not want to see that in any potential employee. nor does any boss want to be manipulated into a situation where he is firing the wrong person for the wrong crime. can anyone work with someone so underhand and a schemer .. everyone would be too busy watching their backs rather than the business. Her own double standards were shown up for what they where when she praised Sandeesh but still took her into boardroom. She couldn't be trusted, all smiles and compliments one moment and sticking the knife in next. Dangerous. |
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Paloma threw her toys out of the pram. She deserved the boot.
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I cringed for her when I saw her "highlights" on "You're Fired". There are usually shots of the fired candidate in unguarded moments, laughing, mucking about and generally looking human. Paloma's had none of these, she looked perfectly poised and controlled, and a little aloof, in every shot, which suggested to me that the poor girl never ever relaxes and lets herself go. What a very sad way to live if you never have a good old belly laugh or never dance a little jig of joy.
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*attempts to remember last time he jigged a dance of joy*
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For all his faults, Stuart never attacked other candidates in his 2 times in the boardroom like Paloma did. He was gobby yes, but he wasn't spiteful. So no double standard in my opinion.
It is interesting that whatever team stuart has been in that has failed the task has resulted in him being taken into the boardroom each time. \surely SAS must notice this? saying that Paloma deserved to go last night, silly girl, must be kicking herself after Nick telling her that, He and SAS had her marked as the favourite to win. |
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*attempts to remember last time he jigged a dance of joy*
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Yes, the poster was suggesting that dancing some sort of jig is commonplace. What did you interpret it to mean?
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I wonder if SAS sees himself like Stuart when he was younger, determined to get to the top.
It is interesting that whatever team stuart has been in that has failed the task has resulted in him being taken into the boardroom each time. \surely SAS must notice this? saying that Paloma deserved to go last night, silly girl, must be kicking herself after Nick telling her that, He and SAS had her marked as the favourite to win. |
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It is interesting that whatever team stuart has been in that has failed the task has resulted in him being taken into the boardroom each time. \surely SAS must notice this?.
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That's true of Alex, but not Stuart.
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Yes, the poster was suggesting that dancing some sort of jig is commonplace. What did you interpret it to mean?
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What a very sad way to live if you never have a good old belly laugh or never dance a little jig of joy.
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I wasn't impressed by her business sense at all. Alex made some valid points re the shop but she dismissed them as she dislikes him.
Her decision to sell the ludicrous recycled clothing was as daft as previous weeks' attempts to be a super sharp wheeler dealer. Integrity, graft, good judgement are what counts and she's lacking on at least two of those. |
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Wasn't it the fact that she attacked her colleagues in a very unprofessional way in the boardroom rather than taking the time to explain why she should be saved rather than fired that finished her off?
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Paloma was two faced, picked on her team and was overrall an unpleasant candidate. She rubbed everyone the wrong way and didn't gel with her team at all. It had to be her way or the high way. She was negative and nit picked the whole time.
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People seen to have forgotten the argument in the street caused by her and the exclusivity offer that wasn't in her power to give. AS would clearly know all about these but was unable to do anyhting about it last week. Add to that the catfight in the boardroom earlier in the series that she was involved it and the result was that it was her time to go.
She was involved in the catfight (if you want to call it that; it seems to be a bit of an exaggeration to me) in the boardroom, but so were pretty much all the girls except Stella (on the other team). |
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Paloma's attacks were very different to the attacks of others, she was savage, deeply personal, unprincipled and often totally unjustified. Many of them seemed desperate and petty and she seemed to relish abusing of others and she indicated clearly nothing but contempt for her fellow human beings.
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What talent does she have?
She refused to acknowledge Alex's efforts to get the ad. Frankly I think she was miffed that SHE wasn't in it. She acted all haughty about the sparkly frocks instead of buttering up the designer. She was mad for the unsaleable recycled items. Chris managed to push that ludicrous dress. But that range was a non-starter! So what talents has she exactly? |
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I didn't see that at all. She was too negative about her rivals as she grew increasingly desperate to stay in, but I don't think she relished it the way Katie plainly did with Adam in Series 3, nor was she nearly so personal.
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Who else could have Paloma brought back in. Too be honest Paloma was stuck with terrible team members and did really well considering. I would have made exactly the same choice as Paloma for bringing Sandeesh back in. It was obvious Alex had to come back and even though everyone else was rubbish Sandeesh has been the most consistently rubbish every week. Alan Sugar should have just fired the whole team and kept Paloma.
What nonsense. Paloma not a few minutes before her choosing, had been PRAISING Sandeesh, so her choice of bringing her back made no sense, and while she hasnt shone so far, Sandeesh did a reasonable job in the task. It is NOT Paloma's job to decide anything based on other weeks tasks, but her own alone. As to Alex, apart from not getting the pitch area correct, Alex was spot on in his comments, and had the idea of the Trafford channel advert, so Paloma's bare faced lie about who was responsible for it was pathetic. |
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I see no double standard at all. Paloma was an ars*, and got fired. Nobody else was anywhere near as much of an ars* as her except Melissa, who was fired last week.
Personally I believe that Alan Sugar has become sensitive to public perceptions of his acumen, and hence isn't keeping the "good television" characters in until the end. |
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She did sell most on her team, and actually she did manage the team pretty well.
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Yes, and if she had stuck to highlighting this in the boardroom instead of being spiteful and trying to tell Sugar what to do she would have been saved.
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I didn't see that at all. She was too negative about her rivals as she grew increasingly desperate to stay in, but I don't think she relished it the way Katie plainly did with Adam in Series 3, nor was she nearly so personal.
However, I do believe she is extraordinarily adaptable, a human chameleon in terms of character, she adopts a character that she believes gains maximum advantage in any situation: where she believes aggression, savagery and ruthlessness are expected and profitable she will adopt those traits, and where they are inappropriate and unprofitable, such as in YBF, she will adopt entirely opposite traits. I have yet to decide if she does have a moral framework which she suppresses if she perceives it as inconvenient when striving for success and status, or if she is prepared to adopt any moral framework that is advantageous at any one moment. Was she really being sincere in YBF where she admitted to being aggressive and morally questionable and implied she accepted she had been abusive of others in her ruthless and self-serving approach and regretted much of it and had now learnt a life-changing lesson and changed her approach to life? Or was this an insincere expediency because she was faced with a morally-inclined and potentially critical audience, in the studio and in the outside world? With someone as clever and quick thinking as she is, determining whether she presents a pragmatic façade or is being genuine, is extremely difficult. |
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Remind me who Paloma brought back into the boardroom with her.
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