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'Insatiable' "flop" demonstrates young people's impatience?
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james-dean
04-11-2010
I don't really pay attention to the chords etc, if i like the tune, i'll hum it for ages. Thats what makes a good track, IMO.

But about Nadine, her personality i think is also to blame. Plus, it's a good single, but nothing special, there's no real hook.
cnbcwatcher
04-11-2010
Originally Posted by kryskrys:
“The way she was talking about the project, I was hoping for something comparable to Siobhan Donaghy's Ghosts, Roisin Murphy's Overpowered or Britney's Blackout. But, dare I say it, I was listening to some of the album last night, and it reminded me of Cheryl's solo work. You could put most of the songs on Cheryl's album and they wouldn't sound out of place at all.”

Britney's and Roisin Murphy's albums are good, I have both of them and they're pure heaven But Nadine's stuff just can't compare to those albums, it's a bit meh and sounds too much like something I might have heard before. Insatiable isn't a great single. I hate to admit it but I even prefer Cheryl's stuff over Nadine's.
kryskrys
04-11-2010
Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher:
“Britney's and Roisin Murphy's albums are good, I have both of them and they're pure heaven But Nadine's stuff just can't compare to those albums, it's a bit meh and sounds too much like something I might have heard before. Insatiable isn't a great single. I hate to admit it but I even prefer Cheryl's stuff over Nadine's.”

Yeah they are brilliant albums. I'd never even heard any of Roisin's songs until a couple of months ago, but I'm completely obsessed with the album now.

I think out of all of Girls Aloud, Nicola's the only one who has the potential to make an album to that standard. Nadine and Cheryl's music just sounds completely ininspired.
ben_122
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Carmen Queasy:
“That got as successful as it was because of the Mercury, though. Plus, isn't the idea of the album that it is very simple? Their singles are very simple.

However, I do like the Mercury award. It does seem to pick decent acts despite many of them not being to my taste.”

It got to its highest position due to the Mercury, I wouldn't say it got as successful as it was. It had already been in the top ten and top twenty before Mercury.

With regards to simplicity, I guess we have different definitions.
Nuartey1
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by grazman:
“I think the problem today is that we have sooooo much information and choice thrown at you through the internet and tv and everything else that we take it for granted now and dont have the time to fully appreciate those songs or albums that take time and grow on you. (unless you have favourite bands/artists). I dont think its a case of young people not appreciating new music, because im in my 30's and i dont really appreciate all the new songs or albums that come out now - I think its because we have sooooooo much more choice now and new music is easily accessible on Youtube or itunes etc that we dont have the time or patience to sit down and listen to an album again and again until it sinks in. I remember 15 years ago (pre internet) all i had available to listen to new music was the radio and the tv and so used to trek down to the local music library every week or so and take out lots of music cds and listen to them over and over again. Loved it. Today, i just go on Youtube, click on a video, listen to it and if im not grabbed i wont bother listening again. Its a good thing that we have all this choice and u can listen to lots and lots of music whenever u want but i do miss those days of listening to an album, not liking it that much and then listening again and again and eventually would turn into something amazing thats in your top 10 albums of all time....”

Yeah, this is more or less what I meant.

I think many have misunderstood what I meant with regards to Nadine's "Insatiable" single. I didn't mean the fact that it is a flop demonstrated people's impatience and intolerance to music that isn't instantly catchy. I was trying to say that the fact that it is considered a flop already is evidence of this, since in the 70s and 80s songs used to climb.

For instance, a song would go in at number 30 and then each week number 28, number 25, number 20, number 15 and so on. Sometimes songs would climb and then drop and then climb again. That's because more and more people would begin to listen to the song each week, music wasn't as accessible as it is now and people actually took the time to appreciate songs. Now, we take it for granted. That's all I meant.
_drak
07-11-2010
What you are saying is correct, some music comes to you, other music you must work for.

Can't see what this has to do with Insatiable though, sounds just like any other disposable pop to me.
josh2721
07-11-2010
Or maybe it was just a crap, forgettable song? You could hardly call it lyrical genius and her vocal is far from remarkable.
Mr. Fahrenheit
07-11-2010
This is not just the fault of young people, and I'm happy you acknowledged that.

For example GaGa, Just Dance was released in the US in April 2008. It hit Number 1 in January 2009. You can't call that 'instant success'.

The majority of my friends are like that though. They are what I call 'lazy music lovers'. They just listen to what's on the radio and pick what they like.

I have managed to find balance between that, so yes, I do love Britney and songs like '3', but I also love Bowie and songs like 'Young Americans', where you do have to think.

I do get your arguement, but not all young people are sheeple.
Nisior
07-11-2010
I'm 18 so I think I'm the bracket you're thinking of. I have a split personality when it comes to music, I'll listen to Cheryl's song over and over and over for 3 days and then get sick to death of it and when ever it comes on the radio or music channels I'll just switch over but then I'll go to HMV or Zhivagos (a music store here in Ireland) and browse through the albums and I'll buy it. I'll go home listen to it once and I'll like a few songs and won't like other ones but I'll listen to it for over a month and I'll grow to love every song because it's a part of the puzzle that is an album. Like Muse's albums or Amy Winehouse's Back To Black, Eagles or Thin Lizzy album I'll buy it because I love one song and I'll listen to it so much I couldn't imagine listening to one track with out it ending with the beginning of the following, lesser known, track.

And on the Nadine issue, the song is just SO dated. It's a bad song with a bad hook and worse lyrics. It sounds like it's from the 90s and it's nothing new, it's nothing creative. Nadine is also a total liar. She said on Twitter that she had to send the video back to be edited because it was too sexy but then in interviews she keeps saying 'I don't know where this has come from and everyone is bringing it up...blah blah blah....I had to edit it because of a risk to people suffering from epilepsy'.

EDIT: I agree with people saying about thinking it would be more Róisín Murphy or Britney Spears' 'Blackout'...which BTW is an amazing album
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