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Old 05-11-2010, 09:10
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Opinions...??

Personally, I can't see her going very far in America, based on the fact that miming is much harder to get away with over there and that 'Promise This', while I adore it, isn't a huge song, as I assume that's what she would open with...
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:13
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Its all about marketing, You don't need to be a great singer to be a "pop" star which of course she isn't.

She'll be seen as the new Posh Spice and will probably appear on all chat shows like Jay Leno etc... and do make up commercials.

Bit like here really, they just shove it in your face 24 hours until you start to beleive she is a star.
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:34
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i doubt its for the american market but more aimed at Europe possibly Australia and Asia

Americans are more critical of their musician and since she cant sing live she wont do well in America
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:38
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I dunno there are plenty of pop stars who can't sing well but are just sold on their looks. She already has links there with Will.I.Am, US XFactor, other celeb friends and whatnot. It's about promotion.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:24
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i like her, but i'm bored of her now anyone would think she was a musical mother teresa with the talent of michael jackson! the way people harp on about her!
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:26
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Thing is there are a million Cheryl's in LA let alone America as a whole. I can't see her making a success of herself. The only reason she sells over here is because of her assocation with X Factor. Had she not been on this show she wouldn't have even had a solo deal in the UK.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:33
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Thing is there are a million Cheryl's in LA let alone America as a whole. I can't see her making a success of herself. The only reason she sells over here is because of her assocation with X Factor. Had she not been on this show she wouldn't have even had a solo deal in the UK.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:42
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There really aren't any popstars in the US who consistently lipsync though.

Britney is the only exception I can think of, but she only gets away with it because of the fact she's Britney Spears. Even then she gets criticised. Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Rihanna are not good singers, but they do sing live.

I really don't know how welcoming they will be to a British celebrity who they don't know or care about, turning up and miming. They're not obliged to like or put up with her because they don't know Girls Aloud or feel any sympathy for the divorce from a footballer they've never heard of, or the fact she had malaria. They won't understand her either.

If she gets good material given to her then she might stand a chance, but if she can't perform it well then she'll be in trouble. She needs to build a profile there, and you can't really do that if people tear down your performances for miming.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:55
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There really aren't any popstars in the US who consistently lipsync though.

Britney is the only exception I can think of, but she only gets away with it because of the fact she's Britney Spears. Even then she gets criticised. Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Rihanna are not good singers, but they do sing live.

I really don't know how welcoming they will be to a British celebrity who they don't know or care about, turning up and miming. They're not obliged to like or put up with her because they don't know Girls Aloud or feel any sympathy for the divorce from a footballer they've never heard of, or the fact she had malaria. They won't understand her either.

If she gets good material given to her then she might stand a chance, but if she can't perform it well then she'll be in trouble. She needs to build a profile there, and you can't really do that if people tear down your performances for miming.
Britney used to sing live though. She had a decent voice but now she just lipsyncs. Probably to do with her lifestyle. Her fame is so huge so she gets away with it.

Cheryl will struggle to get away with it in the US.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:11
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Britney used to sing live though. She had a decent voice but now she just lipsyncs. Probably to do with her lifestyle. Her fame is so huge so she gets away with it.

Cheryl will struggle to get away with it in the US.
Well yeah, that's my point. Britney kind of 'earned' the right to lipsync, for lack of a better word.

The US have no reason to put up with Cheryl doing it.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:15
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There really aren't any popstars in the US who consistently lipsync though.

Britney is the only exception I can think of, but she only gets away with it because of the fact she's Britney Spears. Even then she gets criticised. Katy Perry, Ke$ha and Rihanna are not good singers, but they do sing live.

I really don't know how welcoming they will be to a British celebrity who they don't know or care about, turning up and miming. They're not obliged to like or put up with her because they don't know Girls Aloud or feel any sympathy for the divorce from a footballer they've never heard of, or the fact she had malaria. They won't understand her either.

If she gets good material given to her then she might stand a chance, but if she can't perform it well then she'll be in trouble. She needs to build a profile there, and you can't really do that if people tear down your performances for miming.
100% agree, particularly with the paragraph I put in bold. I guess the reason for her fame in the UK (and Ireland) is unique to this country. Going to America, people won't sympathise with her due to her cheating husband (they won't know who he is, so they couldn't care less), she won't have the constant X Factor coverage she has over here (even if she gets the job, which I seriously doubt, given the opinion the Fox executives have of her, she won't be on their screens until Autumn 2011, which is a long time away), she won't get publicity for having malaria (because she no longer has it) and the 'cute' Geordie accent will not be viewed in the same way over there, they just won't understand what she is saying. Added to the fact that she has already had a bad start because Perez Hilton has been giving her negative coverage on his website for miming on X Factor. What proportion of Cheryl's target market read Perez Hilton's stuff...??!! I'm sure it's quite a lot...
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:19
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if the US execs signed Cheryl Cole based on her chart position then they are in for a flop, she only jumps that high because of XFactor TV exposure (not music)
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:24
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if the US execs signed Cheryl Cole based on her chart position then they are in for a flop, she only jumps that high because of XFactor TV exposure (not music)
Against other artists, though, Cheryl doesn't chart overly high. Compare her to Alexandra Burke and JLS (two acts I do not like, so I cannot be biased).

Singles:
Cheryl - 1, 4, 5
Alex - 1, 1, 8, 4, 1
JLS - 1, 1, 6

Cheryl is the least successful, statistically. Her signing is based on hype.
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Old 05-11-2010, 13:43
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plus hse'll have to dump that accent so people can actually understand her, pet.
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Old 05-11-2010, 13:44
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She will come running home with her tale between her legs..
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Old 05-11-2010, 13:50
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America will love her as they have absolutely no taste whatsoever.
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Old 05-11-2010, 13:58
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Against other artists, though, Cheryl doesn't chart overly high. Compare her to Alexandra Burke and JLS (two acts I do not like, so I cannot be biased).

Singles:
Cheryl - 1, 4, 5
Alex - 1, 1, 8, 4, 1
JLS - 1, 1, 6

Cheryl is the least successful, statistically. Her signing is based on hype.
Have you checked her sales ? That's all that matters in the end.

Anyways, unless the quality of her singles improves dramatically she doesn't have a chance of making it here. It's all about strong singles.

Although she did have success in Europe and Australia so that's a positive sign for her.
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Old 05-11-2010, 14:12
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i doubt its for the american market but more aimed at Europe possibly Australia and Asia

Americans are more critical of their musician and since she cant sing live she wont do well in America
I think the Aussies are more critical than the American's even.Asia is such a big market to break.I don't think Cole realises how much work she will have to put in to even start to win over American fans, especially with the handicaps she has .The UK is an easy market to break (compared to the US) when celebs (cannot bring myself to call her an artist ) have the right backing
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Old 05-11-2010, 14:36
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Have you checked her sales ? That's all that matters in the end.

Anyways, unless the quality of her singles improves dramatically she doesn't have a chance of making it here. It's all about strong singles.

Although she did have success in Europe and Australia so that's a positive sign for her.
Sales:

Cheryl - 916,000, 310,000, 355,000, Album 874,000
Alex - 1,100,000+, 692,000, 257,000, 247,500, 222,200, Album 700,000+
JLS - 511,300, 406,000, 311,800, Album 1,216,100

Alex has clearly had the most successful era in terms of comparing their first albums.
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Old 05-11-2010, 14:40
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Opinions...??

Personally, I can't see her going very far in America, based on the fact that miming is much harder to get away with over there and that 'Promise This', while I adore it, isn't a huge song, as I assume that's what she would open with...
Britney, Madonna and Janet disagree.
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Old 05-11-2010, 14:57
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Britney, Madonna and Janet disagree.
But as lucy mane and toanythingtaboo have already said, those artists built careers on singing live and have only recently begun miming. It's pointless, as well, to compare those artists with Cheryl Cole. Those three are already legends in their own right. I don't think America will react fondly to a new artist launching their career and attempting to mime their way to the top...

America don't need another singer. They have Lady GaGa, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Ke$ha... To be accepted over there would be an honour and it isn't one achieved lightly. She needs to vastly improve her status as a singer. She won't receive media hype as 'the nation's sweetheart' over there...
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Old 05-11-2010, 14:59
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Just wondering why she cant sing live??

Didnt she have to sing live and really well in order to win pop stars all those years ago?? Whats changed?
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Old 05-11-2010, 14:59
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Sales:

Cheryl - 916,000, 310,000, 355,000, Album 874,000
Alex - 1,100,000+, 692,000, 257,000, 247,500, 222,200, Album 700,000+
JLS - 511,300, 406,000, 311,800, Album 1,216,100

Alex has clearly had the most successful era in terms of comparing their first albums.
Cheryl's album has been 3x platinum for sometime so must be at least higher than 900k.

Alexandra's album is still only single platinum, so must be between 300k-600k in sales, and are you sure her singles have sold that much?, broken heels for example seems a little inflated.
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Old 05-11-2010, 15:03
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Cheryl's album has been 3x platinum for sometime so must be at least higher than 900k.

Alexandra's album is still only single platinum, so must be between 300k-600k in sales, and are you sure her singles have sold that much?, broken heels for example seems a little inflated.
I got the data from each of the artists' official websites. Make of that what you wish. Don't go by certifications. Bad Romance, for example, is certified Gold, but has sold around 800,000 units...
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Old 05-11-2010, 15:06
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I don't think Cheryl would risk going over there and losing the amount of media attention she has herel.
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