I suspect she didn't go because she is stupid, even rich fathers can't buy a place into uni.

And eyes as big as tennis balls.

So really expressing oneself well is the yardstick.
Not the one I would use!

Well at least you apologised in advance in your post, and there is a lot to apologise for.

Quite how you see a contradiction about editing and my point that any sofa-borne viewer could offer the same points that Karen Brady offers is weird. You might as well suggest that oranges contradict apples.

I haven't forgotten anything with regard to Sugar's position, I was making the point about Karen's performance, you may recall that is the discussion of the moment, and the fact she offered no opinions that could not have been equally well offered by someone watching the programme is pretty damning given she follows a team and should be able to offer all sorts of extra insights that a viewer could not.

You then suggest that she might be making all sorts of insightful comments that have fallen to the editing floor, well this is a remarkably biased piece of speculation and as part of your supporting evidence you offer something Margaret did, which is totally illogical. I would counter that she probably makes various inane and invalid comments that are saved from the viewer by the editor. I suspect her timid presence is a result of regretting such comments and realising that she had better keep her gob shut if she doesn't want to look like an idiot.

Her success in business has been through her connections and personal life, people like Prince Edward even managed to run a company because they have been force fed from a silver spoon.

As for your last comment, I would reply but I can't read it easily looking down from the great height I occupy, so I won't bother and anyway, I have some ego inflation to be getting on with.

Ok, let me be clearer.

Not being stupid involves

1) Perceiving problems correctly
2) Perceiving solutions
3) Expressing solutions and plans well to others
4) Interacting efficiently and effectively with others
5) Not being a plonker

A lot of the skills are communication related in group tasks; being able to articulate a plan or position to others is a vital skill.

If that fails, just make others look more stupid

Do you seriously beleive that? Lots of rich folk buy their dumb offspring places at Oxbridge. "Ah yes Dean, the library does need a new wing, let me get my chequebook, now about young Fenella's interview next week...."
I haven't seen enough of KB to make a judgement but Laura constantly looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights when things are unfolding around her, instead of arguing her position she goes into shrill foot-stamping mode, I give her about 3 more weeks max.

You are talking about the super rich there. Does Karen's dad fall into that category?

Those eyes are hypnotic, I think she must have stolen them off a fawn somewhere. There is something slightly evil in there too, she could have a role in a real life remake of the Jungle Book as the hypnotising snake.

LOL
Or kinda Egyptian-from-10,000-years-ago look isn't it?

I must agree with you that Karen, not being an intellectual is not cut out for this. From her google pages it does seem her father was super rich.
You have not told us where you place the Lord himself. (I mean LS). But I can gather where it would be.
I also agree one can be rich and stupid.
I havent really seen why everyone gets worked up about Liz. She managed to express herself well, in a well rehearsed pitch. What else?
I dont think Joanna is really stupid. She didnt manage to contain herself in the boardroom under pressure, that is all.
Stella is the dark horse. She doesnt bother listening to instructions and care too much about the boardroom. She seems to have a detached attitude about the whole thing.
As though its all a good joke, and plays along, not a serious contest at all.
It doesnt look like that she is really after the job. She doesnt have a background in business, and am not sure why she was chosen at all.

"Dark Horse" normally means the one you think might just win, is that what you intended?

you wouldn't describe Alan Sugar as an intellectual either but he seems to do ok.

i really don't mind Karen. Shes nothing amazing but she doesn't annoy me either which means i can watch it without getting wound up by her. Shes just sort of 'there' to me.

For the record i couldn't stand Dan Paloma or Melissa and almost cheered when they were fired.

Classic!!

Totally unremarkable and replaceable...

Karren Brady blends into the background which is a good thing because she's not dominating proceedings. She's no Margaret but she's doing ok and surely not deserving of the vitriol Flossie's giving. Did she sack you from your job or something?

They *all* fail that one, though.

This is the first series I have watched.
What is she meant to do?
She's just Lordalan's eyes and ears surely. He doesn't want her to make his decisions for him. He just wants her observations.
It's not about Nick and her, surely?
For sure she could build up her part and make it more about her but everyone is dependent on editing anyway.
I know nothing about the blessed Margaret so I can't make a comparison.
La Brady seems to do her job well.

I do miss Margaret with her withering put-downs, I think I'd cry if she gave me "the look".

Karen's doing okay, not afraid to put the boot in when necessary.

Nope, I would never be in a job so low as to be sackable by someone of such a lowly intellect.

I dislike her, not because she is obnoxious, she seems quite a pleasant person, but because she is overrated, because she is obsessed with women's issues and views everything through that agenda and because she seems to be lauded by the downright stupid who seem incapable of perceiving her screamingly obvious shortcomings as a business person and commentator.

Hello Bleary

I hope you are still scaring your students

Well of course she doesn't annoy you, she makes less impression than the statue of David and makes a similar contribution.

I think I read another comment of yours about Karren in another thread. I can read things at work and have to wait till I get home to comment, so forget half the time what I have read.
I don't remember the interview your on about really. But I did get annoyed a few weeks ago when she said, your here as business women representing business women at work. I would have said, no Karren, I'm here representing myself. I'm not representing any group of people, only me.

Karren's OK and seems to fill the role well enough - she can be funny sometimes and is quite observant. But I'm afraid she'll never match Margaret, no matter how hard she tries!

Oh well, if the rumours are true then we'll still have Margaret when we get to the interviews.

This is one of the reasons why I created this post. She's no doubt getting paid a lot of money for appearing on the show, and bearing in mind the way that The Apprentice has developed over the years, she's very disappointing.

Nick & Margaret became more than just the 'Eyes & Ears' for Lord Sugar, they developed into true characters who gave us all a laugh. Brady is not entertaining in the least, she needs to step up to the mark and give the licence payers a little more value for money. Otherwise she should be fired.