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Poppies on costumes...way too much
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reclinewithme
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“That's why I said they should be commended in my opinion....

My point was that clearly for many of them it is something they want to do, so they should be allowed to wear them on their costumes. Banning them entirely would be just as restrictive of freedom of choice as coercion, so that's why i don't have a problem with them being on costumes.”

But how do you know? That's just me thinking aloud - as you say, we have our own opinions. The little poppy is proving quite divisive isn't it!
SaraV1308
06-11-2010
I think after last year when there was an outcry, the BBC is going into overkill this year but I do think that its good for the performers to be seen to be supporting the Poppy Day/Remembrance Day efforts.
JulieD
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“Irritated the hell out of me. Yes, of course it's a good cause, but the OTT wearing on dance costumes was way over the top. And I agree, if you are not English you should not be forced to wear them.

It is a personal choice, not a legal requirement. Stop degrading the whole purpose Beeb! ”

What exactly has it got to do with being English. Its not the English army its the British Army and includes soldiers from all over the commonwealth. Comments like yours irritate the hell out of me
Vodka_Drinka
06-11-2010
I'm another one who think they look tacky on the dancers costumes, by all means the judges and the hosts should wear them, but on the dancers it's a bit much.
hiua6c
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by JulieD:
“What exactly has it got to do with being English. Its not the English army its the British Army and includes soldiers from all over the commonwealth. Comments like yours irritate the hell out of me”

I agree and also EVERY nationality on the show tonight was part of a conflict (on different sides a times) that people who fought/still fighting are supported by the poppy appeal
hiua6c
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by Vodka_Drinka:
“I'm another one who think they look tacky on the dancers costumes, by all means the judges and the hosts should wear them, but on the dancers it's a bit much.”

I think there are better ways to do it perhaps smaller ones or the in badges on the male dancers lappels so they aren't as distracting they ones they use are a big
reclinewithme
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“I think after last year when there was an outcry, the BBC is going into overkill this year but I do think that its good for the performers to be seen to be supporting the Poppy Day/Remembrance Day efforts.”

But why?
Vodka_Drinka
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by hiua6c:
“I think there are better ways to do it perhaps smaller ones or the in badges on the male dancers lappels so they aren't as distracting they ones they use are a big”

I agree. The ones they put on the dancers costumes look like those comedy flowers that clowns wear, the ones that squirt water.
stargazer61
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by JulieD:
“What exactly has it got to do with being English. Its not the English army its the British Army and includes soldiers from all over the commonwealth. Comments like yours irritate the hell out of me”

Agreed!
bibitybobity
06-11-2010
poppies - the bbc knows it will be in deep doo doo unless everyone, and I do mean everyone, wears one
shrew
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“Irritated the hell out of me. Yes, of course it's a good cause, but the OTT wearing on dance costumes was way over the top. And I agree, if you are not English you should not be forced to wear them.

It is a personal choice, not a legal requirement. Stop degrading the whole purpose Beeb! ”

... apologies. I'm not being nasty or anything, but poppies are not just for the English. There's Scots, Irish, Cornish and Welsh soldiers too. Not to mention Gurkas and the thousands of Commonwealth people who have fought and died for this Country since WWI. I know it was just a slip on the keyboard and I'm sorry if you think I'm picking on you. I'm not, I'm just making the point that's all.

... as for 'to poppy, or not to poppy'. I think it should be left up to the individual (freedom of choice is one of the many things the fallen wanted to defend).

Every year John Snow has the same problem. The irony is that a lot of military people agree with him. My other half doesn't wear one until Armistice. I have a small enamel one I got from the legion. Why can't the dancers incorporate a poppy pattern on their costumes instead if they want to wear one. One year Kristina had one in her hair - which I though was rather nice.
Veri
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by Trophy Wife:
“James and Pamela are wearing them too. For me this takes away from the characters they are trying to portray and removes an element of the escapism one should gain from watching entertainment like this. But most of all I think the BBC is just trying too hard. Many of us wear poppies in our "every day" lives and it isn't disrespectful to those who died for their country in the world wars to keep dance costumes poppy-free. xx”

The Daily Mail might not agree with you, unfortunately.
Vodka_Drinka
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by Veri:
“The Daily Mail might not agree with you, unfortunately.”

The Daily Mail do seem to have a massive grip about people not wearing poppies don't they? They really have it in for Jon Snow for choosing not to wear one.
Trophy Wife
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by Veri:
“The Daily Mail might not agree with you, unfortunately.”

This concerns me greatly. It is my principal purpose in life to be approved of by the Daily Mail. How can I rectify my position?
BuddyBontheNet
06-11-2010
I don't mind the poppies at all, although I would prefer them not to be worn for the actual dance performance, as I think it looks odd.

The BBC have made it quite clear on the SCD website when poppies will be worn - you can read about it here.
Psychosis
06-11-2010
I think it's shocking that people are saying they "shouldn't" or they would "prefer not to" see poppies on their dance costumes. Who are you to say what they should or shouldn't display? Who are you to turn down a note of support from people from all over the world towards the soldiers who sacrificed so much for the british army?

Fair enough if they didn't WANT to wear them but were forced to. Can someone point me to the evidence that somebody on tonight's show was forced to wear a poppy?

Note: I'm not saying that they should wear them. I have no opinion. If they want to, great! If they don't, then don't.
Veri
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I don't mind the poppies at all, although I would prefer them not to be worn for the actual dance performance, as I think it looks odd.

The BBC have made it quite clear on the SCD website when poppies will be worn - you can read about it here.”

I'm glad they have.

I don't want the BBC making it any easier for the Tories and the anti-BBC Tory press to find targets and ammunition.

Though what the link actually says is:

Quote:
“Remembrance Day is once again approaching, and the period of poppy-wearing will start soon. It is normal for the BBC to agree dates between which, for those wishing to do so, poppies may be worn on screen. This year Strictly Come Dancing will be respecting Remembrance Day from Saturday 7 November through to Sunday 14th November, Remembrance Sunday itself. ”

Paace
06-11-2010
I can honestly say I never noticed the poppies.
peeve
06-11-2010
I disliked the poppies on the dancers. They were inappropriate for the characters the dancers were trying to portray - Carmen wearing a poppy? Plus it affected the colour co-ordination - Aliona's hair is not the right shade to sit easily with poppy red.

I am a great supporter of the British Legion but, like Jon Snow, I think the whole thing has become OTT. It's a bit rich for the Strictly website to say that it's a voluntary thing from 7th to 14th November. Every single bloody guest on ITT last week wore a poppy. It's like Christmas starting in August. Armistice Day is 11th November and that's the day we should remember our fallen.

The only times I've gone outside this have been when visiting cemetaries on the Somme, in Normandy and Ypres, which I haven't minded, but once I was chairing a conference the week before Armistice Day and every speaker was given a poppy by the organisers. It would have been churlish to refuse to wear one, so I did it, but resented doing so. So my guess is that all the dancers had to wear those poppies, whether they wanted to or not. Had they not done so, they would have been splashed all over the front page of the Daily Mail on Monday.
k9fan
07-11-2010
I thought the Halloween theme was inappropriate last week and distracted from the dances for me; the wearing of poppies did not bother nor distract me.
I wonder what theme it will be next week, the day before Remembrance Sunday
Tiger Rose
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“If someone did that to me I'd take it off. I am not English and I will not be told what to do.”

Seriously what has not being English got to do with it? Firstly all the Armed Forces are British for a start. Why would an American object to wearing one given that we have been allies in a number of wars?

I worked with a Kiwi a couple of years ago & when people started wearing them in the office he asked what it was for. When I explained he mentioned Anzac day and the next day he bought a poppy too.
Mystical123
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by reclinewithme:
“But how do you know? That's just me thinking aloud - as you say, we have our own opinions. The little poppy is proving quite divisive isn't it!”

I posted that in my first reply - their Twitter profiles say it all, and that is absolutely voluntary I've never said they should have to wear them or shouldn't have to wear them, merely that it is in my opinion wrong to deny them the choice to, which is what the situation is unless it can be proven they've all given in to coercion.
pickledgherkin
07-11-2010
Agree they do look silly, a bit like wearing a poppy on your underwear. I wear a poppy on coat or jacket, wouldn't wear one on evening dress. What's the point?
ExVernonJohnson
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“If someone did that to me I'd take it off. I am not English and I will not be told what to do.”

Are you British or from a Commonwealth country? Because all the Home nations and the Commonwealth Countries celebrate (and I use that word deliberately) the end of War by remembering and honouring the brave man (and now women too) who gave thir lives in barrie so that you have the freedom to come on a dancing forum and dishonour their memory
shrew
07-11-2010
I think it wrong to blame the BBC really - I can well and truly believe it's on a 'voluntary' basis, but I'm sure their publicists would have briefed the pro dancers and the Slebs about the possible public outry if they didn't wear one. In a way it's a shame as I would prefer someone to wear it as a sign of genuine respect and mourning as opposed to wearing one to prevent a load of finger pointing and (unfair) criticism.
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