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So is this the week that the tide turns? Contains results SPOILER!!
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Smokeychan1
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by floopy123:
“I reckon the producers of the show know the removal of the dance-off will guarantee Ann Widdecombe a long run on the show.”

She would have to be in the bottom 2 for a dance-off to make any difference to her staying on the show. She hasn't been in the bottom 2 and nor does it look likely to happen for a few weeks yet, if at all. So your point has no basis in fact.

A dance-off would make no difference!

I will also point out (again), that there were several celebs that scored lower on the judges leaderboard than Jimi, but still managed to attain a higher public support that saved them from leaving. Had Ann not been in the show, Jimi would have still left last night. This result is NOT about Ann.
dome
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by SliverOfDiamond:
“FWIW there are three dances I've watched again from last night, Kara, Gavin and Ann, and Ann's is the one that I've watched four times now, with the tears running down my face from laughter.

Ann's dance last night was an epic performance, there is no way she is going to get voted out with a routine like that. Anton is the only pro who could have got away with this, and he's hamming it up like the brilliant professional entertainer he is. I think that as a pairing on this show, they are absolutely perfect, if they keep this up they're going to be as unbeatable as John and Kristina would have been, if John hadn't resigned.”

I agree, I have watched it numerous times this morning. It's a class act and I'm laughing with them not at them.
dome
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“She would have to be in the bottom 2 for a dance-off to make any difference to her staying on the show. She hasn't been in the bottom 2 and nor does it look likely to happen for a few weeks yet, if at all. So your point has no basis in fact.

A dance-off would make no difference!

I will also point out (again), that there were several celebs that scored lower on the judges leaderboard than Jimi, but still managed to attain a higher public support that saved them from leaving. Had Ann not been in the show, Jimi would have still left last night. This result is NOT about Ann.”

Some like a whipping boy and Ann appears to be the one they have chosen.v
welwynrose
07-11-2010
Everyone seems to have forgotten this has happened before in series 1 when Chris Parker made the final
RichmondBlue
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by SliverOfDiamond:
“FWIW there are three dances I've watched again from last night, Kara, Gavin and Ann, and Ann's is the one that I've watched four times now, with the tears running down my face from laughter.

Ann's dance last night was an epic performance, there is no way she is going to get voted out with a routine like that. Anton is the only pro who could have got away with this, and he's hamming it up like the brilliant professional entertainer he is. I think that as a pairing on this show, they are absolutely perfect, if they keep this up they're going to be as unbeatable as John and Kristina would have been, if John hadn't resigned.”

But how did she actually contribute to that routine ?
I'm willing to accept that some people find them amusing (though it beats me why)..but all of that is down to Anton.
You could go to any old people's home in the country and find someone who would make a more amusing partner for Anton, someone who might at least make some effort to dance. My Granny (God rest her soul) would have done better in her 80's..and she was a damn sight funnier.
Seymour
07-11-2010
I think the Beeb are having a laugh, imo the show is now beyond a farce, one thing for sure they will not get another penny from me until the immovable object is removed.
Smokeychan1
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“But how did she actually contribute to that routine?”

Stooges have always been under-rated.
shefair
07-11-2010
[quote=RichmondBlue;45444386]But how did she actually contribute to that routine ?
I'm willing to accept that some people find them amusing (though it beats me why)..but all of that is down to Anton.
You could go to any old people's home in the country and find someone who would make a more amusing partner for Anton, someone who might at least make some effort to dance. My Granny (God rest her soul) would have done better in her 80's..and she was a damn sight funnier.[/QUOTE]

See now thi really pees me off about Ann , she is posing as a little old lady and she really isn't , Fleicity is older than her and Pamela barely 3 years younger.

Thsi persona of the little old lady gamely trying is as false as the rest of the woman

She desreves to go now but sadly as so many have been taken in by her hype I doubt if she will go for a long time

Lens marking also is a farce , mark on her effort Len and not Anton's entertainment factor
Stunty
07-11-2010
This programme is not about sport, where supposedly the best dancer wins, but about entertainment. So long as the various celebs/couples entertain, and Ann is currently doing that, she has every right to stay in there.

All these 'reality' programmes are about personality as well as talent at the particular discipline.

Take Felicity for example, her persona as 'Barbara Good' on The Good Life was what we envisaged her to be like, however in reality she is not nearly as endearing, and borders on the false and infuriating, going by her put on facial expressions and 'that' laugh of hers.

I'm not surprised about Jimi at all, he just laughed his way through each interview, didn't offer much else in his dancing either ...... he just danced neither good or bad and did nothing to encapsulate the viewers.

At least Ann is giving something for the viewer to laugh at, and she seems to be trying so so hard, but in the end her physique is not conducive to dancing, however hard she tries. Anton is also very good with her and I now have a fresh enthusiasm for 'the Du Beke'.

It is a entertainment/personality show, so we can't really complain about it ....... and kudos to the BBC, at least the public have the final say this year.
Mystical123
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“This programme is not about sport, where supposedly the best dancer wins, but about entertainment. So long as the various celebs/couples entertain, and Ann is currently doing that, she has every right to stay in there.

All these 'reality' programmes are about personality as well as talent at the particular discipline.

Take Felicity for example, her persona as 'Barbara Good' on The Good Life was what we envisaged her to be like, however in reality she is not nearly as endearing, and borders on the false and infuriating, going by her put on facial expressions and 'that' laugh of hers.

I'm not surprised about Jimi at all, he just laughed his way through each interview, didn't offer much else in his dancing either ...... he just danced neither good or bad and did nothing to encapsulate the viewers.

At least Ann is giving something for the viewer to laugh at, and she seems to be trying so so hard, but in the end her physique is not conducive to dancing, however hard she tries. Anton is also very good with her and I now have a fresh enthusiasm for 'the Du Beke'.

It is a entertainment/personality show, so we can't really complain about it ....... and kudos to the BBC, at least the public have the final say this year. ”


That's entirely a matter of opinion, nothing has ever entertained me less than Ann Widdecombe stomping around a floor pretending it's a dance.
RichmondBlue
07-11-2010
Will this forum "explode" after the results show ?
At the start of the series, Jimi appeared to be very popular, one of the favourites. He obviously didn't get the votes, but the voting "window" is very short these days, and a lot of people will have presumed him "safe".
Do you think this will be the start of a backlash, or will most people just shrug their shoulders ?
Of course it's only a tv reality show, but there is still a deep feeling in favour of "fair play" among the GBP..however unimportant the event may be.
Judge Dread
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by conchie:
“If they would stop accepting contestants like this in the first place.........and keep it to an even playing field where its all up for grabs equally, then this would not happen.

Its was humerous in the first few weeks to see Ann stay.........but at this stage when good dancers are going over her.......the joke is over !! I hope the tide turns soon and people get sense.”

The BBC have begged her to do SCD for years.
flat_foot
07-11-2010
I can see Felicity, Gavin and Michelle leaving in the next few weeks and then a real shocker when one of the 'big four' are voted off without Widdi being anywhere near the bottom two Unfortunately I think we must all get used to the fact that she'll be in the semis at least

I'm so gutted for Jimi and Flav, they were so so fun! And I fear that we'll get a real shock when perhaps Kara is voted out before Ann and Anton- I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

I think it's highly unlikely that Ann will make the bottom two for at least another 3/4 weeks :sleep:
flat_foot
07-11-2010
Perhaps we should just hope for a clash of scheduling between Strictly and X Factor, maybe then Widdi won't get all the viewers and voters she's now accustomed to
ianswaiting
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by flat_foot:
“I can see Felicity, Gavin and Michelle leaving in the next few weeks and then a real shocker when one of the 'big four' are voted off without Widdi being anywhere near the bottom two Unfortunately I think we must all get used to the fact that she'll be in the semis at least

I'm so gutted for Jimi and Flav, they were so so fun! And I fear that we'll get a real shock when perhaps Kara is voted out before Ann and Anton- I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

I think it's highly unlikely that Ann will make the bottom two for at least another 3/4 weeks :sleep:”

At least her staying in will provide me with the opportunity to make a cuppa in the absence of an ad break. Let's hope the producers schedule her to perform roughly half way through the programme and it will be perfect
musicangel
07-11-2010
Im am appauled by this week, and by ann's comment wait till the judges see the samba, does she realise she is ruining SCD?!?!
Stunty
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“That's entirely a matter of opinion, nothing has ever entertained me less than Ann Widdecombe stomping around a floor pretending it's a dance.”

It certainly is.

However, we all know what the voting public are like, and whatever they like or whoever the carrot is blatantly being dangled for them to vote, they do.

If it was simply a dance contest without the personality coming into it the audiences would be lower. There would also be no 'It Takes Two' programme, which is basically a tool for the viewer to seek out and delve deeper into the celebs, past their dancing ability.

I don't want to bring that 'other' reality programme on the other side into this really, but that programme is far far more 'fixed' than this one. At least the judges on SCD, especially Craig, are marking on what they genuinely think, and not a battery of diverse comments to stir up the public on purpose.
dome
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by welwynrose:
“Everyone seems to have forgotten this has happened before in series 1 when Chris Parker made the final”

I know, it's nothing new, yet people fall into the same trap every year without fail.
RichmondBlue
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“This programme is not about sport, where supposedly the best dancer wins, but about entertainment. So long as the various celebs/couples entertain, and Ann is currently doing that, she has every right to stay in there.

All these 'reality' programmes are about personality as well as talent at the particular discipline.

Take Felicity for example, her persona as 'Barbara Good' on The Good Life was what we envisaged her to be like, however in reality she is not nearly as endearing, and borders on the false and infuriating, going by her put on facial expressions and 'that' laugh of hers.

I'm not surprised about Jimi at all, he just laughed his way through each interview, didn't offer much else in his dancing either ...... he just danced neither good or bad and did nothing to encapsulate the viewers.

At least Ann is giving something for the viewer to laugh at, and she seems to be trying so so hard, but in the end her physique is not conducive to dancing, however hard she tries. Anton is also very good with her and I now have a fresh enthusiasm for 'the Du Beke'.

It is a entertainment/personality show, so we can't really complain about it ....... and kudos to the BBC, at least the public have the final say this year. ”

Now that's something that puzzles me..I don't think she is trying very hard. It's difficult to imagine anyone else managing to do LESS actual dancing after weeks/months of training with a top professional.
I would be interested to ask any of the (older) ladies on the forum, given Anton as a partner, don't you think you would be capable of performing better than AW ?
Ann is not just bad, she is spectacularly bad..which some people seem to find hilarious, but it must also be deliberate.
Stunty
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Judge Dread:
“The BBC have begged her to do SCD for years.”

They do have to have someone who the viewer can enjoy and laugh along with ..... Chris Parker as mentioned before, Julian Clary, John Sargeant.

Is it really their fault that they are having a go, and the viewers are voting for them??
flat_foot
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by ianswaiting:
“At least her staying in will provide me with the opportunity to make a cuppa in the absence of an ad break. Let's hope the producers schedule her to perform roughly half way through the programme and it will be perfect ”

Haha every cloud has a silver lining and all that ...
Mystical123
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“It certainly is.

However, we all know what the voting public are like, and whatever they like or whoever the carrot is blatantly being dangled for them to vote, they do.

If it was simply a dance contest without the personality coming into it the audiences would be lower. There would also be no 'It Takes Two' programme, which is basically a tool for the viewer to seek out and delve deeper into the celebs, past their dancing ability.

I don't want to bring that 'other' reality programme on the other side into this really, but that programme is far far more 'fixed' than this one. At least the judges on SCD, especially Craig, are marking on what they genuinely think, and not a battery of diverse comments to stir up the public on purpose. ”

I'm not saying that it's no about personality - I supported Chris and Ola last year,so I know personality comes into it a lot, but that's alongside dancing ability, which Ann does not have and does not attempt to have.

All I was pointing out was that you were saying that Ann was entertaining as if it's a fact, when what is entertaining is in itself subjective, and not everyone agrees with the large proportion of the GBP who clearly do find Ann entertaining. Therefore I don't feel she has the right to stay there, as for me she doesn't portray what the show is about.

I do agree with you about the judges though. Stupid marks aside, they do at least give less robotic and biased comments than those on that other show (which I can't bear to watch anymore, it bores me).
Stunty
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Now that's something that puzzles me..I don't think she is trying very hard. It's difficult to imagine anyone else managing to do LESS actual dancing after weeks/months of training with a top professional.
I would be interested to ask any of the (older) ladies on the forum, given Anton as a partner, don't you think you would be capable of performing better than AW ?
Ann is not just bad, she is spectacularly bad..which some people seem to find hilarious, but it must also be deliberate.”

Is she really 'that' bad? We have seem some celebs with literally two left feet on SCD.

Quentin Wilson, Fiona Phillips, Kate Garraway, Paul Daniels. If Paul Daniels was as entertaining as Ann then he would still be in it, but he was dreadful at dancing, no personality and quite nasty with it, hence he was a goner very early.
Seymour
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by flat_foot:
“Perhaps we should just hope for a clash of scheduling between Strictly and X Factor, maybe then Widdi won't get all the viewers and voters she's now accustomed to”


IMO the only chance we have of getting rid of the stompy one... is if the show starts after nine pm when we would hope all the tv's in the homes of the bewildered are switched off for the night.
lynwood3
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“It certainly is.

However, we all know what the voting public are like, and whatever they like or whoever the carrot is blatantly being dangled for them to vote, they do.

If it was simply a dance contest without the personality coming into it the audiences would be lower. There would also be no 'It Takes Two' programme, which is basically a tool for the viewer to seek out and delve deeper into the celebs, past their dancing ability.

I don't want to bring that 'other' reality programme on the other side into this really, but that programme is far far more 'fixed' than this one. At least the judges on SCD, especially Craig, are marking on what they genuinely think, and not a battery of diverse comments to stir up the public on purpose. ”

So long as the producers do not bend any further towards that 'other' reality programme..........Bruno and Len seem to be bending more than enough for my liking
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