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So is this the week that the tide turns? Contains results SPOILER!!
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tvqueen1905
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“For quite a lot of viewers the dancing is more than a 'little' part of it. Of course it's not all about dancing, but if the dancing was insignificant it wouldn't be in the title of the show. The whole point is to see how well a celebrity can learn to dance and perform - they're not mutually exclusive. If there's no respect for the dancing at all, then why not just have a stand-up comedy show on instead, because that is effectively Strictly without the dancing.”

well said

its getting more ridiculous as the weeks go on that ann is staying

i wish people would see sense but no they think its a big joke
Stunty
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“I'm not saying that it's no about personality - I supported Chris and Ola last year,so I know personality comes into it a lot, but that's alongside dancing ability, which Ann does not have and does not attempt to have.

All I was pointing out was that you were saying that Ann was entertaining as if it's a fact, when what is entertaining is in itself subjective, and not everyone agrees with the large proportion of the GBP who clearly do find Ann entertaining. Therefore I don't feel she has the right to stay there, as for me she doesn't portray what the show is about.

I do agree with you about the judges though. Stupid marks aside, they do at least give less robotic and biased comments than those on that other show (which I can't bear to watch anymore, it bores me).”


I agree with you about it being subjective, all these shows are.

I wouldn't like to see her win this though, that would make it a bit surreal. Every time I look at Chris Hollins on Breakfast I remember that he is SCD champion, then I think that the best dancer didn't actually win in his year.

Most years the public see sense when they realise the time is up for joke voting.
tvqueen1905
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“Im am appauled by this week, and by ann's comment wait till the judges see the samba, does she realise she is ruining SCD?!?!”

that was her connection with the viewers so that they vote as i am sure plenty would love to see her version of the samba
Mystical123
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“Is she really 'that' bad? We have seem some celebs with literally two left feet on SCD.

Quentin Wilson, Fiona Phillips, Kate Garraway, Paul Daniels. If Paul Daniels was as entertaining as Ann then he would still be in it, but he was dreadful at dancing, no personality and quite nasty with it, hence he was a goner very early.”

I would actually prefer Paul to still be in the competition than Ann (possibly because I much prefer Ola to Anton, but at least Ola was able to give Paul recognisable dance steps throughout his routines and he tried to dance them.)

And I think Ann is even worse than all those people you have mentioned, as they all at least tried to do proper dancing. Ann is deliberately going for the comedy factor and getting away with stomping around the dancefloor. If she did any proper steps last night I didn't see them. If it wasn't called Strictly Come Dancing I wouldn't care, but it's not just an entertainment show, there is a dancing aspect which Ann is disrespecting entirely.

And people are being harsh on everyone else for using props, why not Ann? Her lack of ability is no excuse, she used awful props last night and more lighting tricks than anyone else had. If she was allowed to do only a proper dance with proper dance steps as the competition was until this year, she wouldn't have lasted more than 2 weeks.
dome
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“I would actually prefer Paul to still be in the competition than Ann (possibly because I much prefer Ola to Anton, but at least Ola was able to give Paul recognisable dance steps throughout his routines and he tried to dance them.)

And I think Ann is even worse than all those people you have mentioned, as they all at least tried to do proper dancing. Ann is deliberately going for the comedy factor and getting away with stomping around the dancefloor. If she did any proper steps last night I didn't see them. If it wasn't called Strictly Come Dancing I wouldn't care, but it's not just an entertainment show, there is a dancing aspect which Ann is disrespecting entirely.

And people are being harsh on everyone else for using props, why not Ann? Her lack of ability is no excuse, she used awful props last night and more lighting tricks than anyone else had. If she was allowed to do only a proper dance with proper dance steps as the competition was until this year, she wouldn't have lasted more than 2 weeks.”

Have you forgotten Fiona Phillips? She was dire, Ann is so much better than her.
Stunty
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by dome:
“Have you forgotten Fiona Phillips? She was dire, Ann is so much better than her.”

She was literally carried round the floor by Brendan!!
dome
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“She was literally carried round the floor by Brendan!! ”

Like a Rag doll.
Mystical123
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by dome:
“Have you forgotten Fiona Phillips? She was dire, Ann is so much better than her.”

I was fortunate enough not to watch that year

I have seen some clips though, and I still think Ann is worse. Fiona and Brendan actually made me laugh unintentionally!
Seymour
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by dome:
“Like a Rag doll. ”

Ann will never be accused of being a rag doll, or a doll of any kind.
Tango Trish
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by conchie:
“If they would stop accepting contestants like this in the first place.........and keep it to an even playing field where its all up for grabs equally, then this would not happen.

Its was humerous in the first few weeks to see Ann stay.........but at this stage when good dancers are going over her.......the joke is over !! I hope the tide turns soon and people get sense.”

why should people "get sense" as you so eloquently put it, we live in a country with freedom of speech and if the BBC see fit to put Ann there to "entertain" then people are at liberty to vote for her - (and no I didn't vote for anyone last night so I am not defending my vote) - just the same as people are at libert to vote for their favourite "dancers"

Oh and to the OP why yet another thread revealing the result I thought all comments etc regarding such were supposed to be kept in the "Spoiler Thread"
Tangerine_82
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Tango Trish:
“why should people "get sense" as you so eloquently put it, we live in a country with freedom of speech and if the BBC see fit to put Ann there to "entertain" then people are at liberty to vote for her - (and no I didn't vote for anyone last night so I am not defending my vote) - just the same as people are at libert to vote for their favourite "dancers"”

But if people are allowed their own opinions (which of course they are) then people are allowed to think that the voters for Ann are silly. That's the way opinion works. Just because it's not favourable doesn't mean it's not allowed, that is the point of freedom of speech.
The Net
07-11-2010
"SCD is all about the personalities of the contestants and how much they move us with their stories and development"

in which case AW should have bitten the dust in Week 1
Tango Trish
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Tangerine_82:
“But if people are allowed their own opinions (which of course they are) then people are allowed to think that the voters for Ann are silly. That's the way opinion works. Just because it's not favourable doesn't mean it's not allowed, that is the point of freedom of speech.”

Exactly but why are people always referred to as "stupid", "silly", etc etc for voting for someone who is less abled - I have yet to see anyone called stupid or silly etc for voting for the good dancers that is my point re freedom of speech - that yet again is being mis-interpreted by people
Pasta
07-11-2010
in sheer numbers it might well be the case that the 'dance' voters greatly outnumber the 'entetainment' voters (if it's even possible to frame it that way). . The people voting on dancing ability are split at least 4 ways, whereas the combination of 'entertainment' voters, plus bandwagon jumpers, anti-judge voters etc are overwhelmingly piling votes up for just one candidate.
Danny_Girl
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Tango Trish:
“why should people "get sense" as you so eloquently put it, we live in a country with freedom of speech and if the BBC see fit to put Ann there to "entertain" then people are at liberty to vote for her - (and no I didn't vote for anyone last night so I am not defending my vote) - just the same as people are at libert to vote for their favourite "dancers"

Oh and to the OP why yet another thread revealing the result I thought all comments etc regarding such were supposed to be kept in the "Spoiler Thread"”


I didn't add my comments to that thread as I felt they were a topic in their own right, rather than related to Jimi being eliminated. BTW I didn't know there was a rule book for posting on this site.
ImpossibleLady
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Tango Trish:
“why should people "get sense" as you so eloquently put it, we live in a country with freedom of speech and if the BBC see fit to put Ann there to "entertain" then people are at liberty to vote for her - (and no I didn't vote for anyone last night so I am not defending my vote) - just the same as people are at libert to vote for their favourite "dancers"

Oh and to the OP why yet another thread revealing the result I thought all comments etc regarding such were supposed to be kept in the "Spoiler Thread"”

And with a very annoying topic title, may I add! Just SPOILER would have been enough.
Tango Trish
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Danny_Girl:
“I didn't add my comments to that thread as I felt they were a topic in their own right, rather than related to Jimi being eliminated. BTW I didn't know there was a rule book for posting on this site.”

Firstly there are rules and you agree to abide by them when you join digital spy

Regarding the thread surely you must have seen the "spoiler" thread and realised that there was a place to go to discuss the result pre show just so no-one who doesn't want to stumbles across the result - it is out of courtesy to others the results are kept in one place - its just a case of thinking about others tbh
jessca
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Tango Trish:
“Firstly there are rules and you agree to abide by them when you join digital spy

Regarding the thread surely you must have seen the "spoiler" thread and realised that there was a place to go to discuss the result pre show just so no-one who doesn't want to stumbles across the result - it is out of courtesy to others the results are kept in one place - its just a case of thinking about others tbh ”

is my least favourite smiley, it really isn't necessary to use it towards other FMs, as IMO it appears rude, patronising and condescending. I don't find it courteous or considerate, personally.


The OP wanted to have a discussion that was a separate issue from the spoiler thread, therefore they started a new discussion. They didn't post the result in their thread title, which was ambiguous in itself (it could just have equally referred to Ann leaving, and the competition becoming more dance-focussed).
shrew
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“Ann will never be accused of being a rag doll, or a doll of any kind.”

weeble?
tabithakitten
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by jessca:
“ is my least favourite smiley, it really isn't necessary to use it towards other FMs, as IMO it appears rude, patronising and condescending. I don't find it courteous or considerate, personally.


The OP wanted to have a discussion that was a separate issue from the spoiler thread, therefore they started a new discussion. They didn't post the result in their thread title, which was ambiguous in itself (it could just have equally referred to Ann leaving, and the competition becoming more dance-focussed).”

I detest it too. You might as well say - "Your comment is ridiculous and I don't know why I'm gracing it with an answer."
Chris1964
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Pasta:
“in sheer numbers it might well be the case that the 'dance' voters greatly outnumber the 'entetainment' voters (if it's even possible to frame it that way). . The people voting on dancing ability are split at least 4 ways, whereas the combination of 'entertainment' voters, plus bandwagon jumpers, anti-judge voters etc are overwhelmingly piling votes up for just one candidate.”

Well there is some suggestion that people are voting for whoever Wagner is on the other side as a kind of anti-Cowell/X Factor campaign. Not that I think SCD is in the teritory of campaigns, but clearly Annes antics are creating a wave of interest which has presumably thrown up people who dont always watch doing so because of her. She has declared that she is no John Sargeant and will go on for as long as possible-good for her! However I dont think she will win-sense will prevail in the end imo. She could get to the last 4 though.
Smokeychan1
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by jessca:
“The OP wanted to have a discussion that was a separate issue from the spoiler thread, therefore they started a new discussion.”

So the fact that the question "will there be a backlash against Ann now" which was already being discussed in the spoiler thread wasnt good enough?

Quote:
“They didn't post the result in their thread title, which was ambiguous in itself (it could just have equally referred to Ann leaving, and the competition becoming more dance-focussed).”

But quite obviously didnt refer to Gavin, Felicity, Patsy or Michelle. So very clearly not ambiguous enough.

I don't ordinarily look at spoilers but inconsiderate posting of this nature means if I really don't want to find out the results, I have to stay away from these forums completely for nearly 24 hours. That isnt fair and would be totally unnecessary if people only used a little more thought and consideration.

I think from now on, instead of staying away I shall just alert posts and threads like these and let the mods deal with it. Maybe they will do away with allowing a spoiler thread at all (that ones my favorite).
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