• TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
  • Follow
    • Follow
    • facebook
    • twitter
    • google+
    • instagram
    • youtube
Hearst Corporation
  • TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
Forums
  • Register
  • Login
  • Forums
  • Entertainment
  • Sport
Official Formula 1 Thread (Part 6)
<<
<
5 of 135
>>
>
bingoman
07-11-2010
I still think Webber will be World Champion
sherer
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by bingoman:
“I still think Webber will be World Champion”

out of those still in the unt I would prefer Webber to win
Alan Philp
07-11-2010
Sorry for going off topic but does anyone know what background music was used for Eddie's (and Jake's on Sat) piece?
Cheapthrills
07-11-2010
Originally Posted by Alan Philp:
“Sorry for going off topic but does anyone know what background music was used for Eddie's (and Jake's on Sat) piece?”

which piece?
Alan Philp
08-11-2010
The part where he narrates the summary of the season. The same vt was used at the start of the F1 Forum and the music was also used during Jakes build up piece before qualifying. I’m sure it’s from a movie or tv series.
Errodiel
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by planetnokia:
“Hulkenberg ruined that race for me with his dog in the manger driving. Why didn't he piss off out of the way and let us have a really competitive race ”

IMO Hulkenberg gave us some of the most entertaining driving of the race - really superb defensive driving. He was racing for track position too, so why should he move over?
Assa2
08-11-2010
We'll really see Vettel's colours in the final race. Will he sacrifice his slim chances for the WC to aid his team-mate? How far will he go to help Weber out?

I'm wearing my cynical hat this morning so I think he won't give a dam if Alonso wins over Weber. Given he almost certainly has his eyes on a Ferrari drive in the next couple of seasons he isn't going to do anything to damage his reputation with them i.e. take Alonso out. If he's ahead of Alonso and behind Weber I think he'll do his job properly but if he's ahead of Weber I don't think he yeald the place.
Caramel Crunch
08-11-2010
I want Webber to win the WDC.
soulboy77
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Assa2:
“We'll really see Vettel's colours in the final race. Will he sacrifice his slim chances for the WC to aid his team-mate? How far will he go to help Weber out?

I'm wearing my cynical hat this morning so I think he won't give a dam if Alonso wins over Weber. Given he almost certainly has his eyes on a Ferrari drive in the next couple of seasons he isn't going to do anything to damage his reputation with them i.e. take Alonso out. If he's ahead of Alonso and behind Weber I think he'll do his job properly but if he's ahead of Weber I don't think he yeald the place.”

I'm sure that if coming near to the end of the race Vettel has to yield to Webber in order for a Red Bull driver to win the WDC, then it will happen. Vettel can only win the championship if Alonso has a bad race or a DNF.
jmclaugh
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by soulboy77:
“I'm sure that if coming near to the end of the race Vettel has to yield to Webber in order for a Red Bull driver to win the WDC, then it will happen. Vettel can only win the championship if Alonso has a bad race or a DNF.”

I agree but he needs to say this to avoid any probs with team orders, i.e. it it his decision.

Red Bull should imo have done this yesterday as it was the percentage call to ensure they get the WDC and they are going to look very silly if Alonso manages to finish 2nd in the last race.
planetnokia
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Errodiel:
“IMO Hulkenberg gave us some of the most entertaining driving of the race - really superb defensive driving. He was racing for track position too, so why should he move over?”

He finished 8th after being lapped and he's 13th in the standings with 22 points....good enough reason
ChrisE
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Assa2:
“We'll really see Vettel's colours in the final race. Will he sacrifice his slim chances for the WC to aid his team-mate? How far will he go to help Weber out?

I'm wearing my cynical hat this morning so I think he won't give a dam if Alonso wins over Weber. Given he almost certainly has his eyes on a Ferrari drive in the next couple of seasons he isn't going to do anything to damage his reputation with them i.e. take Alonso out. If he's ahead of Alonso and behind Weber I think he'll do his job properly but if he's ahead of Weber I don't think he yeald the place.”

I actually read that as take Webber out.
Si_Crewe
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by soulboy77:
“I'm sure that if coming near to the end of the race Vettel has to yield to Webber in order for a Red Bull driver to win the WDC, then it will happen. Vettel can only win the championship if Alonso has a bad race or a DNF.”

This.

I think it's a fair point to say that Vettel would have been a bit silly to gift the win to Webber yesterday.

It's possible that Webber and the donkey botherer might take each other out next week so Vettel would have been a bit silly to give away 7 points that might help HIM to win the WDC if that happens.

I'm not a Vettel fan but I have a sneaking suspicion that he's actually a decent guy so if the RBRs end up running 1-2 at the end of next weeks race I suspect we'll see Webber take the win to ensure the WDC goes to RBR but I think that'll be as much "help" as Webber can expect.

*EDIT*
Regarding the music, it wasn't "In For The Kill" by La Roux, was it?

I know that track was used for a couple of VTs. I recognise it cos I have an MR2 and all the people on the MR2 owners club love that track cos it features an old MR2.

Another one which they used during yesterday's coverage was "Wake Me Up" by Girls Aloud.
The beeb seem to use that quite often during the F1 coverage for some reason.
planetnokia
08-11-2010
As a matter of interest has anyone worked out what the current driver standings would be under the old points awarded system?
Si_Crewe
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by planetnokia:
“As a matter of interest has anyone worked out what the current driver standings would be under the old points awarded system?”

They mentioned it yesterday and, apparently, it'd be almost identical.
They also pointed out that if they implimented Bernie's "medal" system it'd still be the same too.

I guess the whole hoo-haw over the points was just a knee-jerk reaction to a couple of years when drivers scraped a championship by a single point.

Which reminds me...

In 2007 Hamilton lost the championship by a single point to Raikkonen after he'd been gifted a win by Massa earlier in the season.
Wonder why everybody's making a fuss about Massa gifting Alonso a win this year when nobody seemed to care in 2007?
planetnokia
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“They mentioned it yesterday and, apparently, it'd be almost identical.
They also pointed out that if they implimented Bernie's "medal" system it'd still be the same too.

I guess the whole hoo-haw over the points was just a knee-jerk reaction to a couple of years when drivers scraped a championship by a single point.

Which reminds me...

In 2007 Hamilton lost the championship by a single point to Raikkonen after he'd been gifted a win by Massa earlier in the season.
Wonder why everybody's making a fuss about Massa gifting Alonso a win this year when nobody seemed to care in 2007?”

Thanks
sherer
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“They mentioned it yesterday and, apparently, it'd be almost identical.
They also pointed out that if they implimented Bernie's "medal" system it'd still be the same too.

I guess the whole hoo-haw over the points was just a knee-jerk reaction to a couple of years when drivers scraped a championship by a single point.

Which reminds me...

In 2007 Hamilton lost the championship by a single point to Raikkonen after he'd been gifted a win by Massa earlier in the season.
Wonder why everybody's making a fuss about Massa gifting Alonso a win this year when nobody seemed to care in 2007?”

It seems that team orders are allowed for the championship. Although the problem with that is that ALL races count towards the championship so team orders should be allowed at all rounds. The same as if at the final race Vettel moves over to let Webber win and take the title it will be deemed ok but if that happened at Silverstone it wouldn't
Dr. Jan Itor
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by sherer:
“It seems that team orders are allowed for the championship. Although the problem with that is that ALL races count towards the championship so team orders should be allowed at all rounds. The same as if at the final race Vettel moves over to let Webber win and take the title it will be deemed ok but if that happened at Silverstone it wouldn't”

The difference with people moving aside for teammates at this stage of the season is that you don't even need to give orders. It's just obvious that it needs to be done, and so drivers will willingly give up their position without needing to be asked. What happened at Hockenheim this year was that a driver was asked to give up a place he did not want to give up, but reluctantly did so to keep his bosses happy.
Si_Crewe
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Dr. Jan Itor:
“What happened at Hockenheim this year was that a driver was asked to give up a place he did not want to give up, but reluctantly did so to keep his bosses happy.”

Could be worse.

It's not like they asked him to deliberately crash the car or anything.
soulboy77
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by jmclaugh:
“I agree but he needs to say this to avoid any probs with team orders, i.e. it it his decision.

Red Bull should imo have done this yesterday as it was the percentage call to ensure they get the WDC and they are going to look very silly if Alonso manages to finish 2nd in the last race.”

Yes, if Webber ends up losing the WDC by less than 7 points to Alonso then Red Bull are going to be seen as making the wrong decision in yesterday's race and the favouring Vettel jibes may come home to roost.
Si_Crewe
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by soulboy77:
“Yes, if Webber ends up losing the WDC by less than 7 points to Alonso then Red Bull are going to be seen as making the wrong decision in yesterday's race and the favouring Vettel jibes may come home to roost.”

Thing is, what if Vettel gave the race to Webber yesterday and then Alonso and Webber crash out in Abu Dhabi and Hamilton wins?

Vettel did the right thing IMO.
He's created a situation where Webber needs to go out and WIN the championship for himself and, TBH, there's nothing wrong with that.
As a back up plan, if both RBRs are in front of the FIATs then Vettel can let webber through and ensure he wins.

About the only way anything really dramatic could happen would be if the RBRs finish 1-2 and Vettel doesn't give Webber the win so Alonso takes the championship.
Errodiel
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by planetnokia:
“He finished 8th after being lapped and he's 13th in the standings with 22 points....good enough reason ”

Is he psychic too, so that he knew that would happen during the first few laps when he was fighting Alonso and Hamilton for position? I think it's ludicrous to ask any driver who has track position to move over, just because he's not in the hunt for the championship. Clearly his car isn't as fast as the front runners, but he had a chance to show some skill and get the best out of the car. The guy had a chance to show all the team bosses what he can do, and he grabbed it, it's that simple.
jmclaugh
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Si_Crewe:
“Thing is, what if Vettel gave the race to Webber yesterday and then Alonso and Webber crash out in Abu Dhabi and Hamilton wins?
”

Blimey that's a lot of what ifs but if Webber & Alonso do crash out Hamilton only win if he he is first and Vettel isn't second.

Red Bull's percentage call yesterday on the WDC was for Webber to have won.
Syqo
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Errodiel:
“Is he psychic too, so that he knew that would happen during the first few laps when he was fighting Alonso and Hamilton for position? I think it's ludicrous to ask any driver who has track position to move over, just because he's not in the hunt for the championship. Clearly his car isn't as fast as the front runners, but he had a chance to show some skill and get the best out of the car. The guy had a chance to show all the team bosses what he can do, and he grabbed it, it's that simple.”

Completely agree. At the moment, Hulkenberg doesn't have a drive for next year so he needs to justify why he deserves a seat in 2011. And he did as well as he could have done. I'd have been disappointed if he just let everyone through. He fought hard but fair. Williams are also fighting Force India for sixth in the constructors' championship, so he needs to grab every point available.

Originally Posted by jmclaugh:
“Blimey that's a lot of what ifs but if Webber & Alonso do crash out Hamilton only win if he he is first and Vettel isn't second.”

But Vettel's engine might fail. On a more serious note I do think that there will be mayhem at the front with a lot of overtaking (hopefully) and I wouldn't be surprised if there's absolute carnage. Bring it on!!
Chiaroscuro
08-11-2010
Originally Posted by Season 74:
“Don't listen to the commentators. This was the only logical move for Lewis. Especially if the lapped cars get out of the way quickly. We could have a thrilling finish.”

If only - sometimes I wish there was a commentator mute button.
Originally Posted by Hera:
“Am I the only one in this thread who is NOT supporting Button + Hamilton?

Come on Vettel!!!! ”

I was supporting Vettel, but not not supporting Hamilton and Button. Was really pleased for Seb yesterday though, a well deserved win.
Originally Posted by soulboy77:
“I'm sure that if coming near to the end of the race Vettel has to yield to Webber in order for a Red Bull driver to win the WDC, then it will happen.”

I agree and I think Vettel will do it gracefully. I know Christian Horner pretty much confirmed what they'd do after the race anyway and the fact that Webber actually manged to crack a smile makes me think they've already assured him what will happen if the situation is like yesterday's race.

Quote:
“Vettel can only win the championship if Alonso has a bad race or a DNF.”

What are the chances, do you think?
<<
<
5 of 135
>>
>
VIEW DESKTOP SITE TOP

JOIN US HERE

  • Facebook
  • Twitter

Hearst Corporation

Hearst Corporation

DIGITAL SPY, PART OF THE HEARST UK ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK

© 2015 Hearst Magazines UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.

  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
  • Complaints
  • Site Map