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Old 29-11-2015, 07:32
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Fury is a clam. He is now a world champion clam. He will go down as one of the worst champions in recent memory.
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Old 29-11-2015, 07:38
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Is he starting to sound like Eubank with the lisp an everything
Fury is the campest champion in boxing history.
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Old 29-11-2015, 07:47
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Not surprised Klitchko will take the rematch. He wouldn't want to go out like that.

If Lennox would of lost to Vitali he wouldn't of retired. Difference is Lennox got the job done when he had to, while Vlad was awful.
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Old 29-11-2015, 08:11
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So it seems rematch is happening then in Britain. If wlad wins that then no doubt they'll be another.
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Old 29-11-2015, 09:47
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Massive congratulations to Tyson Fury on his convincing win. Well done mate!

I usually predict a fight, and didn't on this occasion because it was a bit negative. It was that Fury had the tools to beat Klitschko, but the occasion would probably get to him and he wouldn't have the mental strength. I was wrong.

Big tests lie ahead though with Wilder and later Joshua, who Fury admitted 'beat him up' in the gym when sparring a while back.

Tyson has a huge reach though, and is very smart in the ring. He can also clearly keep a cool head, which is a massive advantage.

Well done to De Gale as well, who has improved a lot since the Groves loss. Groves got a bit greedy in trying to move on too quickly, and for all the trash talk about Froch and his trainer Robert McCracken, Groves needs people around him who will tell him what he needs to hear, not what he wants to hear.
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Old 29-11-2015, 10:50
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Can't believe Sky are putting Joshua on PPV this early in his career, greedy bleeders!
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Old 29-11-2015, 10:51
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Wow, i got that completely wrong, thought Klitsch would out class and out strength Fury...
Listened to it outside a bar on 5 Live... Seems like Mike Costello made it sound more exciting than it actually was!
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Old 29-11-2015, 11:01
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I am glad I did not pay to watch this "world title " fight , I have seen better at chuck out time at the local pub , congrats to Fury
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Old 29-11-2015, 11:13
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the fury fight was a horrible watch. both fighters punching output was shocking and did nothing to excite heavyweight boxing.

well done to fury though, not really keen on watching a rematch.

Degale won no doubt, dont think it was that wide but he deserved to win.
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Old 29-11-2015, 12:04
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Awful fight, awful singing.
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Old 29-11-2015, 13:35
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Can't believe Sky are putting Joshua on PPV this early in his career, greedy bleeders!
Agree its ridiculous especially when the fight is just for the British title and will probably just be a routine win for Joshua. I am amazed this is on box office.

Its getting to the point that any even half decent fight is put on box office and considering how much people pay for sky sports anyway its a joke and just greed as you say.
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Old 29-11-2015, 13:41
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Awful fight, awful singing.
I actually thought his singing wasn't bad. I've heard worse. Yeah the fight wasn't great but I think for him to beat him he had fight like that. He had to Frustrate wlad although fury never really troubled him and wlad didn't really trouble fury, maybe last round where I think fury got caught and had to hang on. Be interesting to see what tactics he uses in rematch because I'm not sure same ones used this time will work again.
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Old 29-11-2015, 15:23
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Very happy for Fury and he boxed a great gameplan.

Heavyweight boxing though on the whole is a joke. The actual fight was awful. Yes Fury had to make it messy but in 12 rounds of world championship boxing, it looked like two big men having a drunken fight.
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Old 29-11-2015, 15:42
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Congrats to DeGale. Boxed well.
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Old 29-11-2015, 15:46
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Mike Tyson in his prime would of probably knocked both out within a few rounds.
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Old 29-11-2015, 15:53
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Mike Tyson in his prime would of probably knocked both out within a few rounds.
Yep, fully agree. There was only a number of real punches thrown last night. Most of the fight was spent hugging, jabs, bit of dancing and heads clashing.
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Old 29-11-2015, 15:54
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Congrats to DeGale. Boxed well.
Im one of very few people who thought he was quite lucky to win that fight. Watching it back, I guess he did deserve to win, but only just imo. I don't think he's anywhere near 'all time great status' yet. He'll need to do a lot more, and be a lot better, if he's ever going to be considered 'the best'.

If he'd have fought a younger, faster fighter, he would have lost last night!

A pre Froch 2 fight George Groves would have beaten DeGale last night/this morning!

I take my hat off to Bute, he put a superb performance!
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:05
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[quote=Nova21;80542673]Wow, i got that completely wrong, thought Klitsch would out class and out strength Fury...
Listened to it outside a bar on 5 Live... Seems like Mike Costello made it sound more exciting than it actually was![/QUOTE]

IMO, that always happens on radio commentary when it comes to Boxing, they way way over exagerate what's actually happening and when it comes to watching the actual coveridge, it never matches the way its described on radio. I suppose they think they have to do it because of it being just audio no pictures etc.

Mike Tyson in his prime would of probably knocked both out within a few rounds.
Had Tyson gone into that fast bobbing and weaving, left/rights, hooks, uppercut routine then yes, good chance they would have been KO by that.

Fury knees buckled in the 12th round and I think that if he fought AJ and AJ did his usual approach and if AJ is not chinny then I doubt Fury will be able to take AJ's shots either but because of Wlad's uber caution yesterday, we still don't know how well Fury is under a full on bad attack and we need to find out! Just like we need to find out/see how AJ can take a big shot or not.

Btw, what was this spat between Lennox Lewis and Fury? Was it just on Twiiter in the build up to this fight or has it been going on years and if so what was Fury saying?
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:24
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[quote=Styker;80545846]
Wow, i got that completely wrong, thought Klitsch would out class and out strength Fury...
Listened to it outside a bar on 5 Live... Seems like Mike Costello made it sound more exciting than it actually was![/QUOTE]

IMO, that always happens on radio commentary when it comes to Boxing, they way way over exagerate what's actually happening and when it comes to watching the actual coveridge, it never matches the way its described on radio. I suppose they think they have to do it because of it being just audio no pictures etc.



Had Tyson gone into that fast bobbing and weaving, left/rights, hooks, uppercut routine then yes, good chance they would have been KO by that.

Fury knees buckled in the 12th round and I think that if he fought AJ and AJ did his usual approach and if AJ is not chinny then I doubt Fury will be able to take AJ's shots either but because of Wlad's uber caution yesterday, we still don't know how well Fury is under a full on bad attack and we need to find out! Just like we need to find out/see how AJ can take a big shot or not.

Btw, what was this spat between Lennox Lewis and Fury? Was it just on Twiiter in the build up to this fight or has it been going on years and if so what was Fury saying?
No idea what the spat was about. Agree though fury needs to be tested. I'm also not sure how bigger puncher he is which sounds ridiculous considering the size of him. There must be some power there. Yeah AJ will also have to step up in class which I'm sure he will do next year. The thing with mike Tyson was is just threw bombs left or right and didn't give them time to breathe. If they had a suspect chin then run because it wouldn't be over pretty quick.
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:25
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Im one of very few people who thought he was quite lucky to win that fight. Watching it back, I guess he did deserve to win, but only just imo. I don't think he's anywhere near 'all time great status' yet. He'll need to do a lot more, and be a lot better, if he's ever going to be considered 'the best'.
I don't think anybody would consider him a great or even p4p top ten atm, but he did what he had to do. Good counters, bodywork and pot shots. Was comfortable on the inside and on the back foot. Lacked that one punch power that Froch has but was comfortable with Bute's own power that he was able to sit in the pocket and trade at times.

If he'd have fought a younger, faster fighter, he would have lost last night!
He probable wouldn't have fought the same tactics though, horses for courses.

A pre Froch 2 fight George Groves would have beaten DeGale last night/this morning!
A post Froch Groves is trying to save his career though.

I take my hat off to Bute, he put a superb performance!
That he did, the Froch performance sort of masks what a decent fighter he is.
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:35
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Good post fight press conference from the Heavyweights. You see more of their real personality in these rather than the hyping pre fight stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmDwmpISZ3I
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:35
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No idea what the spat was about. Agree though fury needs to be tested. I'm also not sure how bigger puncher he is which sounds ridiculous considering the size of him. There must be some power there. Yeah AJ will also have to step up in class which I'm sure he will do next year. The thing with mike Tyson was is just threw bombs left or right and didn't give them time to breathe. If they had a suspect chin then run because it wouldn't be over pretty quick.
Fury's big in height but its hard to tell how much power he has punching wise. I got the impression he had a lot of body strength but maybe he used his height well to just fend off Wlad and he seemed to have well goton to him mind games wise which is why Wlad seemed to back off so much.

Muslcle wise, Fury's never seemed that big to me but people don't always have to have bulging muscles to have a lot of power like. I sure hope a future fight with AJ would see AJ taking the fight to him and not getting spooked the way Wlad seemed to be.

I was really surprised with Wlad as he was so up for it against Haye and so out did him on everything and was supremely confident against Haye but last night none of that was really there but he did try and counter Fury somewhat but he was too cautious.

The ring seemed far to big too and I think that didn't work in Wlad's favour either as he couldn't cut off the ring to Fury. I wonder if Fury demanded a big ring? Smart move if he did.

As for Tyson, some people survived the young Tyson's early onslaughts like Tony Tucker, James Bonecrusher Smith and Pinklon Thomas but they did not have enough to frustrate him and outbox him like Douglas and Hollyfield did. I think Tucker could have but he may have lost his confidence during the fight.
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Old 29-11-2015, 16:57
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Looks like the spat between Fury and Lewis was that Lewis was asked who would win and Lewis predicted Wlad would win by KO and that Fury woudn't dominate boxing. Fury called Lewis a "Has been" on twitter and also said "he's another bare bum in the shower". Whatever that means!

I don't think that dig was worthy in anyway. All fighters have to retire at some point and what matters is how good they were while they were fighting, not once they have retired. Lennox Lewis has more than proved himself and his words/views can't be dismissed in that way at all.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...m-lennox-lewis
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Old 29-11-2015, 17:47
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De Gale wins on points with 2 judges giving it him by 6 rounds and the other by 4 rounds

Jim Watt had it 114-114 and Nick Halling had it to De Gale by 1 round

I only caught the last 2 rounds which Bute clearly won
I watched it and Watt seemed to decide that with 4 or 5 rounds to go that he was worried that Bute would be seen as the aggressor and gave him everything after that ... a quick glance at the live bbc feed confirmed my feeling that Bute needed a knock-out in the last round.

Pesonally I had DeGale winning by 3 rounds but there were some close rounds to be fair ... Watt needs punted ASAP as he seems to decide something and then scores the fight to fill that belief, not what he is actually watching.
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Old 29-11-2015, 18:50
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Looks like the spat between Fury and Lewis was that Lewis was asked who would win and Lewis predicted Wlad would win by KO and that Fury woudn't dominate boxing. Fury called Lewis a "Has been" on twitter and also said "he's another bare bum in the shower". Whatever that means!

I don't think that dig was worthy in anyway. All fighters have to retire at some point and what matters is how good they were while they were fighting, not once they have retired. Lennox Lewis has more than proved himself and his words/views can't be dismissed in that way at all.

http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news...m-lennox-lewis
Not sure how a retired fighter can be called a has been.

Any version of Lennox Lewis ko's fury or Vladimir.

I really don't want to see a rematch. I don't see how the fight would be any different as Vladimir is just to frightened to let his hands go. The usual plan of fighting wasn't an option last night and after 3 rounds he had to do something different but wouldn't or couldn't.

The guy suffers from muscle memory where the punch and hold is ingrained. I don't think he can fight another way. Vlad doesn't even throw bodyshots.
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