OK, thank you.

Superb quality video of Hearns v Cuevas (featuring the commentary of the great Don Dunphy).

If ever a fighter looked totally invincible in a performance it was Tommy in his first title fight - utterly destroying the bone-breaking welterweight champ Cuevas in less than two rounds.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_YFouNiIo0

Thanks for that ...the commentary is amazing, he actually goes up to 20 seconds at one stage without saying anything as Hearns piles in in round 2...many of the hyperbolic guys today should watch and learn.

Was that result considered an upset at the time do you know?

You are welcome.

Cuevas was a very well respected champion (on his 12th defense and a brutally damaging puncher).

I think Hearns may have been the slight favourite going in but no one expected total destruction like that.

It effectively finished off Pipino's career.

Solid champion and had busted a few people up during his reign, including breaking a couple of jaws. But he ran into an ATG in Hearns. Madness to think Hearns ended up a champ at light heavy and fighting at cruiser.

It's the beautiful boxing and sheer speed that is just as impressive as the powershots from Tommy.

I still think he overtrained for the Leonard fight and paid for it in the later rounds (came in light at 145 with that frame).

Head to head if you were not called Sugar Ray (Robinson or Leonard) I really can't think of any other welter in history who would beat him.

The welterweights of the late '70's early 80's.

Palomino.
Cuevas.
Benitez.
Duran.
Hearns.
Leonard.

Short Hearns Duran reunion - not sure where it was filmed.

Tommy, Ray and Roberto are good now friends (especially Ray and Tommy).

Hagler however continues to bear grudges after all these years.

Why?

They moved up to fight him - which is why he became a world star. Would he be so dismissive of Spinks or Qawi if he had moved up like the other three kings did?

No - because he would have known what it was like to fight a bigger man.

I would like to have seen him against Ketchel, Greb, Monzon (a stone cold psychopath) or GGG in a fantasy matchup.

Marv may have had the greatest middleweight chin of all time (proved by Hearns breaking his hand in the very first hard punch of their fight) but I wish he would just bloody move on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAEfg6THUlQ

Agreed.

I don't understand why Hagler is hostile towards Leonard of so many years.

Surely he can just move on, as he has a great career, Leonard or not.

The thing is, he lost that fight because of stupidity, arrogance & a touch of greed & deep down, I think he knows it, but doesn't want to admit it to himself.

Whoa! Thanks for that. Don't think I've ever seen that before and if I have, I had forgotten just how fast Hearn's hand speed was at his peak. The right hand that had Cuevas doing a chicken dance was such a peach Hearns didn't really need to hit him again - but he is a boxer after all


Aside from his grudge against Leonard, Hager seems like a cool guy. But just wanted to say it was his fight against John "the beast" Mugabi that convinced me how truly great his punch resistance was. He got tagged more in that fight than probably any other up to then - by a knockout king no less and still ploughed on. How demoralising must it be to hit a man with your very best shots and he simply carries on stalking you around the ring...?

Keep them clips coming please

This is true.

Hagler had lost all his speed by '86 & had to lure opponents into the trenches & that meant taking shots.

Mugabi hit Hagler with an uppercut in round 4 that would have knocked down a building & Hagler just shook it off & kept coming.

I think it's part of the reason why he is so hostile towards SRL, because he believes in his mind that Leonard should have stood & traded with him.

Leonard was never going to be so daft as to do that, especially considering what Marvin had done to the last two guys who were crazy enough to do that (Hearns & Mugabi).

I would say that p4p, along with Oliver McCall, Marvin Hagler must have the best chin ever.

I don't really like Marvin's attitude towards Tommy in the interviews I have seen either.

He certainly had the right strategy close the distance as soon as possible so Hearns could not use maximum leverage on that right.

As for Tommy at welter people forget just how formidable he really was, the beautiful boxing, sheer hand speed and lethal power - and his chin was solid at that weight as well.

The story of Hagler v Hearns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=396c6NrTjLQ

I forgot to say, re the Hearns fight clip from Soze - the first thing the announcer said was something like "A Muhammad Ali presentation" now I know a lot about Ali, but I never knew he actually went into promotion or more likely Don king trading off his name. Can anyone shed any light?

PS A more mellow clip of Hagler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdsYQYHCkno

PPS You want to see real ex-middleweight bitterness? Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMOqDLVFuk (great fighter though )

Yeah, I noticed that as well, it's never mentioned . Maybe a failed venture?

Has anyone got the clip of the Hagler Hearns fight where it only lasted three rounds but it was absolutely breathtaking

Look at my post above.

Also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYt5Rz2XlAg

Did Marvin Hagler ever fight at Welterweight or has he always been a Middleweight

I reckon he might have sneaked into that list that Keyser Soze put together if he'd fought at welter

Well im surprised he never fought at Welterweight Maybe he was just too big But you are right it would have bern interesting if he started his career at Welterweight and then move up a weight like the other greats did

To be fair, Ali did have a few Turned it around nicely in later life though.

Marvin was a career middleweight; he stayed there throughout his 14 years as a professional.

I think someone needs to tell Roy Jones Jr to retire. If he had not already damaged his legacy enough, he is now advertised to be fighting a fan who if he beats Jones would win $100,000

Pretty sad to see how far he has fallen

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles...-to-win-100000

Agreed.

Jones Jr looked unbeatable at one point back in the 1990s, but he has fallen so far that it has become tragic.

He really needs to be saved from himself, or he is going to be slurring his words & walking funny in the near future.

Does he have no real friends or his family to tell him that enough is enough?

It's embarrassing now.

I really fear for his future health.

Absolutely right.

Jones Jr seems like he is pig headed, much like any of top line fighter.

They see boxing as a day at the office & don't want to listen to reason, even if it blatantly obvious they can't do it anymore.

I hope he gets the message soon, because it's one of the saddest sights in sports to see a once great athlete embarrassing himself because he is so pig headed.

On another note, what do you make of Anthony Joshua fight Charles Martin for Tyson Fury's IBF belt that was unceremoniously stripped from the true heavyweight champion of the world?

It's a great opportunity for Joshua & I'd back him, even though he is a relative novice because I just don't rate Charles Martin at all.

Eddie Hearn seem to have a great sway with the IBF; I just hope that if AJ does win the belt, that we don't get the same scenario that we have with Kell Brook, a succession of defences against corpses and landscape gardeners!

Great opportunity for AJ to bag a world heavyweight belt.

Cant say i know anything about Charles Martin and i don't think you can read to much into his fight record.

Possibly 2 fairly matched fighters and an exciting scrap to look forward to.