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misawa97
14-02-2016
Great move from matchroom. Must be paying Martin plenty.
Keyser_Soze1
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by Syntax Error:
“Absolutely right.

Jones Jr seems like he is pig headed, much like any of top line fighter.

They see boxing as a day at the office & don't want to listen to reason, even if it blatantly obvious they can't do it anymore.

I hope he gets the message soon, because it's one of the saddest sights in sports to see a once great athlete embarrassing himself because he is so pig headed.

On another note, what do you make of Anthony Joshua fight Charles Martin for Tyson Fury's IBF belt that was unceremoniously stripped from the true heavyweight champion of the world?

It's a great opportunity for Joshua & I'd back him, even though he is a relative novice because I just don't rate Charles Martin at all.

Eddie Hearn seem to have a great sway with the IBF; I just hope that if AJ does win the belt, that we don't get the same scenario that we have with Kell Brook, a succession of defences against corpses and landscape gardeners!”

It is the ideal fight for Joshua - a great opportunity and I hope that he takes it.

I think he will.

As for the heavyweights it will take a year or so to sort everything out - but the key is the Fury/Wlad rematch for the real heavyweight title. If Fury wins then we could be in for a series of competitive fights culminating in a Joshua/Fury superfight in 18 months or so.
nainz
14-02-2016
Originally Posted by mcg3:
“Great opportunity for AJ to bag a world heavyweight belt.

Cant say i know anything about Charles Martin and i don't think you can read to much into his fight record.

Possibly 2 fairly matched fighters and an exciting scrap to look forward to.”

Probably the biggest earner Martin could make at the moment. I don't know what that says abut his promoters, whether they are confident in their fighter or are just looking to cash out straight away.

Yes it's too early for him and he's missing out on a lot of the lessons he'd learn from knocking over a few on the slide eastern Europeans for the next year, but, I'm not going to criticize Joshua for going for this as fighters fight for money and this will set him for life if he's a smart lad.

Eight weeks notice for a world champion southpaw is an interesting one though.
crofter
14-02-2016
The betting for the AJ vs Martin fight is quite interesting:
1/10 AJ
11/2 Martin

I wouldn't exactly say that this is a 50/50 fight but Martin is no 11/2 shot - he has a very live chance of causing an upset in the early rounds as both men will be looking for the early finish.
Styker
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by mcg3:
“Great opportunity for AJ to bag a world heavyweight belt.

Cant say i know anything about Charles Martin and i don't think you can read to much into his fight record.

Possibly 2 fairly matched fighters and an exciting scrap to look forward to.”

I haven't seen Charles martin fight in full fights before either. His title winning fight does not seem available to watch online either but from brief highlights he seems to have some power with not that much muscle and yes I know you don't always need muscle or obvious muscle showing to have power. Mike Macallum proved that back in the day.

This guy Martin has fought 8 more times though but it seems he may not have much more experience as he has a high KO record too. AJ should have enough power and then some to finnish this guy off like he did with Whyte but I'm slightly concerned for AJ on running out of gas as it looked like he was about to a couple of times against Whyte. But he may as well go for it now and dig deep if he has to but he shouldn't have to. He is 26 now too so is not as young as he could have been at this stage of his professional career.
nainz
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“I haven't seen Charles martin fight in full fights before either. His title winning fight does not seem available to watch online.”

v Glazkov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBAmwG3ff0
v Sandez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXc6XScUZDY
v Hernandez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAucHqlSS2w
Styker
15-02-2016
Originally Posted by nainz:
“v Glazkov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBAmwG3ff0
v Sandez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXc6XScUZDY
v Hernandez
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAucHqlSS2w”

Thanks, I'll try and check them out later if they don't get deleted that is.
stu64
16-02-2016
I see Manny Pacquiao has been getting tips from Tyson Fury on his views on gay people
Madridista23
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“I see Manny Pacquiao has been getting tips from Tyson Fury on his views on gay people ”

Seen that just now...... what a muppet.
Makosi's pants
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by Madridista23:
“Seen that just now...... what a muppet. ”

And he's got what he deserved. Nike have dropped him. I know that he really winds up others, but I find Tyson Fury's pantomine anti-gay antics difficult to take seriously, but Manny is a totally different matter.

I can't believe Floyd is the sensible one on this issue:

http://www.tmz.com/2016/02/16/floyd-...ng-gay-people/
Serial Lurker
17-02-2016
It's not the first time he's come out with somesuch nonsense.

Interesting comparison with Fury though. One of them is from an impoverished background in a fundamentally religious third world country, one of them isn't. They're both despicable morons but I know which one is worse.
Makosi's pants
18-02-2016
Originally Posted by Serial Lurker:
“It's not the first time he's come out with somesuch nonsense.

Interesting comparison with Fury though. One of them is from an impoverished background in a fundamentally religious third world country, one of them isn't. They're both despicable morons but I know which one is worse.”

Just to be clear, what I meant with Manny is that his words and deeds have much more influence around the world. I think you knew that but with a subject like this it's worth clearing up any confusion.
stvn758
18-02-2016
He posted that Leviticus rubbish from the Bible about putting gays to death as well.
Keyser_Soze1
18-02-2016
Originally Posted by stvn758:
“He posted that Leviticus rubbish from the Bible about putting gays to death as well.”

It's not been a very good couple of years for him has it?

Humiliated in the ring and now coming out with all of this old cobblers.

His reputation has been really damaged.

Also - Walter McGowan RIP.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...s-aged-73.html
misawa97
18-02-2016
Manny should of just said he didn't agree with homosexuality. His allowed an opinion.

There was no need for the animal comment.
nainz
21-02-2016
Chudinov got robbed last night, terrible decision. The box nation commentator needs a good talking to aswell.
batdude_uk1
25-02-2016
No comments here about the possibility of pro boxers being allowed to compete in the Olympic games?

What do people think, a good move if it goes through or not?
NRG
25-02-2016
Surprised there's been no chat so far on the upcoming Quigg Frampton showdown this coming Saturday night. Any predictions? I shouldn't really be saying this because I'd get lynched if I said it out loud but I believe Quigg will win. Maybe that's because Quigg put on a sterling performance in his last fight on the same night Frampton got floored not once but twice. Now maybe I shouldn't read too deeply into that but that's just the way I see it. Oh and furthermore, I also believe Quigg is inside the head of Frampton as was evident recently. And if that's really the case and not some Sky Box Office ploy to sell the fight Frampton's lost for sure.
nainz
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“No comments here about the possibility of pro boxers being allowed to compete in the Olympic games?

What do people think, a good move if it goes through or not?”

I'm not a fan of the idea, but the olympic movement sold it's soul a long time ago. Allowing Golf, Tennis and Football is bad enough.

The ams have been corrupt for years but the kids involved are not and I'd like to see them have the chance at their own glory, after all, very few ams do end up going pro.

Originally Posted by NRG:
“Surprised there's been no chat so far on the upcoming Quigg Frampton showdown this coming Saturday night. Any predictions?”

I've got a £10 each on a Quigg ko/tko overall and a ko/tko in round 7. Think it's a 60/40 fight in Framptons favour but I've bought into the hype hook line and sinker.
mcg3
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by NRG:
“Surprised there's been no chat so far on the upcoming Quigg Frampton showdown this coming Saturday night. Any predictions? .”

I'm another one firmly in the Quigg camp.

I just think he will have too much for Frampton but expect an explosive fight with plenty toe to toe action.
Serial Lurker
25-02-2016
Originally Posted by NRG:
“Surprised there's been no chat so far on the upcoming Quigg Frampton showdown this coming Saturday night. Any predictions? I shouldn't really be saying this because I'd get lynched if I said it out loud but I believe Quigg will win. Maybe that's because Quigg put on a sterling performance in his last fight on the same night Frampton got floored not once but twice. Now maybe I shouldn't read too deeply into that but that's just the way I see it. Oh and furthermore, I also believe Quigg is inside the head of Frampton as was evident recently. And if that's really the case and not some Sky Box Office ploy to sell the fight Frampton's lost for sure.”

I actually think that turned out to be a very good performance from Frampton; away from home against a more awkward opponent than he expected, flash dropped twice in the first and then came back and dominated. I'm not sure Quigg could've done the same in that situation.

I've had Frampton for it for as long as it's been talked about, although as always as the fight gets closer I begin to doubt myself. Frampton is undoubtedly tight at the weight - I think this will be his last fight at super bantam regardless, and I think if/when he does move up that'll be it for him at world level. The likes of Walters, Selby and Lomachenko are simply too big for him. Selby and Frampton in the same ring would be comical.

I do still think he'll beat Quigg though. The Martinez fight is a bit flattering to Quigg; he's got decent enough power, but no more than Frampton. The long and short of it for me is that Frampton has fought better opponents and looked better beating them. I don't know if it's Quigg in his head so much as Hearn is - Frampton and the McGuigans blatantly can't stand him or Joe Gallagher. They're not alone in that tbf, but Frampton has been acting like a right dick head about it.
Central cake
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by NRG:
“Surprised there's been no chat so far on the upcoming Quigg Frampton showdown this coming Saturday night. Any predictions? I shouldn't really be saying this because I'd get lynched if I said it out loud but I believe Quigg will win. Maybe that's because Quigg put on a sterling performance in his last fight on the same night Frampton got floored not once but twice. Now maybe I shouldn't read too deeply into that but that's just the way I see it. Oh and furthermore, I also believe Quigg is inside the head of Frampton as was evident recently. And if that's really the case and not some Sky Box Office ploy to sell the fight Frampton's lost for sure.”

All depends on who gets what dressing room I suppose
Makosi's pants
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by NRG:
“Surprised there's been no chat so far on the upcoming Quigg Frampton showdown this coming Saturday night. Any predictions? I shouldn't really be saying this because I'd get lynched if I said it out loud but I believe Quigg will win. Maybe that's because Quigg put on a sterling performance in his last fight on the same night Frampton got floored not once but twice. Now maybe I shouldn't read too deeply into that but that's just the way I see it. Oh and furthermore, I also believe Quigg is inside the head of Frampton as was evident recently. And if that's really the case and not some Sky Box Office ploy to sell the fight Frampton's lost for sure.”

Renewed my sports subscription just in time to see the face to face with Johnny Nelson and the pantomine of the press conferences and dressing room wind-ups.

Before their last fights I would have said Frampton. He just looks the more complete boxer. And he recovered well to win after the knockdowns. But the way he got dropped was worrying. Meanwhile Quigg finished his last fight in impressive fashion. I'm still going for Frampton, but I'm less sure than I was and no way as sure as the bookies who have Frampton odds on. The pot is boiling nicely....
Makosi's pants
26-02-2016
Originally Posted by Serial Lurker:
“I actually think that turned out to be a very good performance from Frampton; away from home against a more awkward opponent than he expected, flash dropped twice in the first and then came back and dominated. I'm not sure Quigg could've done the same in that situation.

I've had Frampton for it for as long as it's been talked about, although as always as the fight gets closer I begin to doubt myself. Frampton is undoubtedly tight at the weight - I think this will be his last fight at super bantam regardless, and I think if/when he does move up that'll be it for him at world level. The likes of Walters, Selby and Lomachenko are simply too big for him. Selby and Frampton in the same ring would be comical.

I do still think he'll beat Quigg though. The Martinez fight is a bit flattering to Quigg; he's got decent enough power, but no more than Frampton. The long and short of it for me is that Frampton has fought better opponents and looked better beating them. I don't know if it's Quigg in his head so much as Hearn is - Frampton and the McGuigans blatantly can't stand him or Joe Gallagher. They're not alone in that tbf, but Frampton has been acting like a right dick head about it.”

That's a pretty good summary. Guess we'll find out soon enough.
swansea steve
26-02-2016
any good fights on the undercard? looking forward to it-- Frampton for me by late KO or points.
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