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is anyone else staying up for ward-barrera?
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#3052 |
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Fight should have been stopped at least two rounds earlier. Those uppercuts were snapping Blackwells head back too often.
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Fight should have been stopped at least two rounds earlier. Those uppercuts were snapping Blackwells head back too often.
Blackwell's corner should have thrown in the towel, you could tell before the round that the desire had left him, his energy was gone. A complete lack of duty of care for Blackwell from his team to the ref...just hope he is okay. |
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#3054 |
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What's the latest on the guy? It can't have been good when they stopped everything else and the sombre way they finished the show, made me think they know this is more serious than they are letting on.
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Got to agree, the ref should have spotted it, even if the boxer seems fine, there is no way he should be allowed to take that many uppercuts, his head movement at times was looking like a yo-yo.
Blackwell's corner should have thrown in the towel, you could tell before the round that the desire had left him, his energy was gone. A complete lack of duty of care for Blackwell from his team to the ref...just hope he is okay. |
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The rest of the fight card did continue but was delayed due to Blackwells condition.
Hughie Fury won a unanimous decision not losing a round. The channel 5 cameras had long gone as had the ring girls so the announcer of the rounds was none other than Heavyweight champion of the world Tyson Fury. Not many champs would do that.
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#3057 |
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I blame the corner more than the ref. As long as Blackwell is firing back the ref has no reason to stop it.
And yes the corner is to blame as well. |
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Hughie Fury has to be one of the softest hitting heavyweights around.
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I would disagree...yes he was fighting back, but he had no defence against the upper cut, not one or two but a barrage of them throughout the fight, the ref should have been able to spot this and step in, a boxer needs to defend himself as well as throw punches.
And yes the corner is to blame as well. Spike was taking shots v Eubank Jnr and his corner pulled him out when they saw there was no way he would win the fight. Blackwells corner should of done the same after 8 rounds. That was more than enough time to determine if an extra beating was worth it. Worryingly if it wasn't for the Dr stopping it, Lockett would of allowed Blackwell to fight to the bitter end. |
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Tough call for the ref, but I think he got it right, those uppercuts getting through Blackwell's guard were brutal. [ something he should work on ]
Great fight though. C5 takes a lot of stick but, it's fantastic to see live boxing back on terrestial TV like the good old days. |
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Yeah but he was defending himself aainst most punches, getting his hands up. I'm uncomfortable with ref stopping fights unless a fighters can't defend himself. Blackwell wasn't really in any real distress for the ref to call it off.
Spike was taking shots v Eubank Jnr and his corner pulled him out when they saw there was no way he would win the fight. Blackwells corner should of done the same after 8 rounds. That was more than enough time to determine if an extra beating was worth it. Worryingly if it wasn't for the Dr stopping it, Lockett would of allowed Blackwell to fight to the bitter end. I am still of the opinion that the ref failed in his duty of care...he should have stopped at least two rounds earlier, he couldn't have failed to notice how much each blow was jolting the head of Blackwell. |
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What's worrying is that Blackwell apparently has a brain bleed and is in a coma, so some are suggesting...hopefully this is not true.
I am still of the opinion that the ref failed in his duty of care...he should have stopped at least two rounds earlier, he couldn't have failed to notice how much each blow was jolting the head of Blackwell. |
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Nick Blackwell v Chris Eubank
Hope Nick Blackwell makes a full recovery. Pre fight, Billy Joe Saunders wrote Eubank off altogether which was a bit odd. He's fast, he can punch and he's got a very good defence at times.
Blackwell's tactics were poor, and you have to question his trainers there. Just standing in front of Eubank with his gloves held high?! Hardly any head movement, and not offloading when he got in range? Completely the wrong tactics. I remember Hatton when he fought Mayweather, and his very good trainer Billy Graham commented before the fight that Hatton would get in range but had to do something when he got in range. He didn't and he got knocked out. If a boxer gets in range, they offload, and then get out, it's basic boxing. They don't just stand there and take punishment. On Eubank, he is very offensive, and then likes to take a break with his left held low. A world class opponent will punish that, and there is a question mark over his world credentials. He might be another George Groves who will be exposed at world level. His Dad has helped him a lot, but built him up too much. He's no Floyd Mayweather, and if he believes hype, it could be his undoing. On the other hand the Billy Joe approach to underestimate him is clearly dangerous. |
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Blackwell seemed to go into the fight wanting to prove how hard he was and how he could take a punch from anybody - unfortunately he took too many punches but you can't blame the ref as Blackwell was defending himself and fighting back at all times. Sometimes fighters need saving from themselves but it is a very fine line. He was not taking a beating in that 10th round.
You have maybe got to look at his corner and particularly his trainer who was egging him on and telling him "this was his time" and "the other kid was tired" going into the 9th round when it was clear he was not in the same league as Eubank. Why Eubank was able to land his brutal trademark uppercut at will you would think Blackwell and his team would have known that is the punch he should be avoiding ... but that didn't seem to be the case. |
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What's worrying is that Blackwell apparently has a brain bleed and is in a coma, so some are suggesting...hopefully this is not true.
I am still of the opinion that the ref failed in his duty of care...he should have stopped at least two rounds earlier, he couldn't have failed to notice how much each blow was jolting the head of Blackwell. According to Peter Fury the doctor felt uneasy letting the subsequent Hughie Fury fight go ahead - and Peter told him to "man up" the opponent had come over from America and they were professionals who would die in that ring. Seemingly they had to get another doctor to cover the fight ... |
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I have just read that Nick Blackwell had a scan today and there is no increase in the pressure on his brain so the surgeons are not planning to operate.
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I've just watched the repeat for the fight on Channel 5 +24.
At the end Blackwell seemed to be OK, a bit of a mess perhaps, but he didn't seem to be unable to stand. Then the TV went to the adds. Once they'd finished and returned to the arena Blackwell was on the floor. So I just wondered what actually happened? Did Blackwell just suddenly collapse or was he advised by the medical professionals to lie down? |
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For those of you who may be interested there is a boxing thread on General atm.
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David Haye continuing to fight bums.
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David Haye continuing to fight bums.
I did enjoy Shannon Briggs coming in shouting his mouth off and telling Haye like it is. |
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David Haye continuing to fight bums.
I bet even Dave are thinking twice about covering this one. |
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That fight will make David shine, give him an ego boost once again.
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I watched this again.
The Four Kings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY55GGA1xHA Hagler - what a repulsive ******. Sugar Ray Robinson - wife beater. Harry Greb. Ali. Pain. |
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[quote=Keyser_Soze1;81983508]I watched this again.
The Four Kings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY55GGA1xHA Hagler - what a repulsive ******. Sugar Ray Robinson - wife beater. Harry Greb. Ali. |
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