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Keyser_Soze1
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by fruitloop27:
“Yep. Haye wafted in thin air & Gherkin (or whatever his name is) fell over like he'd been shot.”

What are you talking about?

The bloke displayed a far better chin than Foreman when Holyfield hit him about 20 times in a row.
misawa97
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“Thought the whole production and card tonight was embarrassingly bad. Must of been at least 18,000 mugs who brought tickets to go watch it though.

They said if Haye beats (if lol another 1/2 round ko) Briggs he will be in line for a world title shot. So he comes back after a while out, beats 2 complete and utter bums and a guy near 50 and it gets you a title shot.”

No matter what the commentators said it wasn't a sell out, far from it.

I checked for tickets on Friday and you could still buy 10 seats together which tells you there were loads left.

My friends girlfriend works for o2 and will get comps sometimes. Anyway on Tuesday she managed to get 8 tickets for £2.50 each. This bombed at box office and rightly so.
taurus_67
22-05-2016
David Haye is doing his reputation no good at all with these fights; neither as a boxer or as a promoter. Hayemaker promotions should be explaining themselves to the BBBC and trading standards after taking cash off the punters for that list of mis-matches. No wonder Sky or ITV weren't interested if this was his business plan.

Haye is still surely better than this nonsense. He talks of being taught that you need to work hard to get the rewards in life, well get in the ring with someone who can defend themselves and work to prove you've still got a world title shot in you!
Matt35
22-05-2016
So it looks like we'll have the chant of lets go champ for another few months until the fight starts. No doubt it'll be on either boxnation or sky office. None of which I'll be paying. Haye should of stayed retired.
misawa97
22-05-2016
Problem Haye has is without TV he doesn't have the money to pay for live opponents.
Chief_Wiggum
22-05-2016
I think you're been a bit harsh on David Haye here. He's a great boxer- one of the best of his generation, a gent and a legend, and you're criticising him for soundly defeating someone?

David Haye is doing what he has to do to get back to being a real champion. Don't begrudge him that.
Styker
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“No matter what the commentators said it wasn't a sell out, far from it.

I checked for tickets on Friday and you could still buy 10 seats together which tells you there were loads left.

My friends girlfriend works for o2 and will get comps sometimes. Anyway on Tuesday she managed to get 8 tickets for £2.50 each. This bombed at box office and rightly so.”

I was wondering why so many young women who in my view/impression were only there because they seemed to fancy David haye and seemed to want to catch his eye but were not wearing very expensive clothing were there and close to ringside.
Styker
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by taurus_67:
“David Haye is doing his reputation no good at all with these fights; neither as a boxer or as a promoter. Hayemaker promotions should be explaining themselves to the BBBC and trading standards after taking cash off the punters for that list of mis-matches. No wonder Sky or ITV weren't interested if this was his business plan.

Haye is still surely better than this nonsense. He talks of being taught that you need to work hard to get the rewards in life, well get in the ring with someone who can defend themselves and work to prove you've still got a world title shot in you!”

I didn't like him getting personal (again! He did it with the Klitschko's too) on Shannon Briggs mocking Brigg's "Let's Go Champ" slogan to "Let's Go Chump". I think for Haye to do that shows that he's worried about Brigg's as an opponents re Brigg's punching power though I doubt Brigg's will be able to catch Haye unless he catches him early and quickly.

Haye should bear in mind that Briggs doesn't seem to be in a fully fit state of mind. It was mentioned more than once and pit to briggs to that he had suffered from depression over the last few years so I think if Haye carries on making diggs like this at Briggs, the BBBC should warn him to shut it. having said that Boxing is the fight game but still, you can't put muscles inside the brain etc.
Armi
22-05-2016
They should keep it on Dave.

It fiits well with the comedy.
dearmrman
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“I think you're been a bit harsh on David Haye here. He's a great boxer- one of the best of his generation, a gent and a legend, and you're criticising him for soundly defeating someone?

David Haye is doing what he has to do to get back to being a real champion. Don't begrudge him that.”

If by soundly defeating someone you mean, paying someone to come in and not put up a challenge, other words just lose then yes, we are been a bit harsh on Haye.

It will be the same with Briggs, though he maybe be allowed to get a few orchestrated shots in to make it look like a challenge, but he will be paid to take the fall no matter what.
Lowri_J
22-05-2016
Anthony Joshua is such a fittie.

Bye.
Chief_Wiggum
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“If by soundly defeating someone you mean, paying someone to come in and not put up a challenge, other words just lose then yes, we are been a bit harsh on Haye.

It will be the same with Briggs, though he maybe be allowed to get a few orchestrated shots in to make it look like a challenge, but he will be paid to take the fall no matter what.”

This isn't the WWE. If you think boxing is rigged, don't watch it!

It was a fair fight last night as far as both boxers were concerned. Haye just put in a far superior performance.
dearmrman
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“This isn't the WWE. If you think boxing is rigged, don't watch it!

It was a fair fight last night as far as both boxers were concerned. Haye just put in a far superior performance.”

Haye could have just gone in their and blown on him, the outcome would have been the same. Rigged and a farce, at least people are not getting conned in WWE they know exactly what it is.

I am not of the opinion that boxing is rigged in the majority of fights, but Hayes comeback fights demonstrate that it exists, and the board certainly need to look at it...as Haye is just bringing the sport into disrepute and so blatantly.
Matt35
22-05-2016
Just watched the fight. truely embarrassing is the word i'd use. His opponent realised he was massively out of his depth pretty early and wanted out. Haye saying the first knockdown would have knocked any other boxer out. Sadly i think he believes that too. Not seen the briggs fight, don't know if it was on dave or not. Surely though he can't be any worse than the one haye just beat.
NRG
22-05-2016
I didn't get a chance to see the fight last night so can't comment on that other than to say if DH wants to be taken seriously in his 'new beginning' he really needs to stop fighting bums and step up to the mark. Even though he's getting on a bit now there is potential and he hits hard.
Matt35
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by NRG:
“I didn't get a chance to see the fight last night so can't comment on that other than to say if DH wants to be taken seriously in his 'new beginning' he really needs to stop fighting bums and step up to the mark. Even though he's getting on a bit now there is potential and he hits hard.”

Watched briggs fight on youtube. He was in better shape than i thought he'd be in. Also didn't know he'd knocked out 52, 36 in the first round although obviously that will have been in his prime. Briggs was slow and haye should have too much speed to get in trouble but if briggs does catch him. An upset could happen which would definitely end haye's career.
stu64
22-05-2016
See I don't mind Briggs as a person, when interviewed properly he comes across very well and talks about the struggles he has had over the last few years.

As a boxer though, the guy poses no threat what so ever to Haye. Look at last night, he fought a guy who literally just flew half way round the world and already had 16 losses in his career lol. The poor guy was still jet lagged and the last time he fought in England it was in a sports hall.

So who gives a shit if Haye knocks out Briggs in 1/2 rounds, it means nothing. I actually hope Haye believes his own shitty hype and gets in the ring with Joshua, as despite being raw, Joshua would beat Haye easy due to his immense punching power.

Look when Haye fought Klitschko, it was a awful performance, then of course the two pull outs from the Fury fight.
Styker
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by stu64:
“See I don't mind Briggs as a person, when interviewed properly he comes across very well and talks about the struggles he has had over the last few years.

As a boxer though, the guy poses no threat what so ever to Haye. Look at last night, he fought a guy who literally just flew half way round the world and already had 16 losses in his career lol. The poor guy was still jet lagged and the last time he fought in England it was in a sports hall.

So who gives a shit if Haye knocks out Briggs in 1/2 rounds, it means nothing. I actually hope Haye believes his own shitty hype and gets in the ring with Joshua, as despite being raw, Joshua would beat Haye easy due to his immense punching power.

Look when Haye fought Klitschko, it was a awful performance, then of course the two pull outs from the Fury fight.”


If AJ was to unleash on Haye, the only chance Haye would have is to catch AJ with a punch hard enough to knock him out, IF AJ is chinny and we don't know if AJ is or isn't yet as no one has really landed a hard enough punch on his chin yet.

If Haye is unable to catch AJ with a big enough punch to save himself then there is no way I can see him surviving an AJ onslaught. I can see an Amir Khan vs Canello type knock out coming and unless Haye could get a big pay day for it, I'm not sure if its worth the risk for him to try and fight AJ and still probably isn't worth it even if he was to get a big pay day.
Styker
22-05-2016
Originally Posted by Matt35:
“Watched briggs fight on youtube. He was in better shape than i thought he'd be in. Also didn't know he'd knocked out 52, 36 in the first round although obviously that will have been in his prime. Briggs was slow and haye should have too much speed to get in trouble but if briggs does catch him. An upset could happen which would definitely end haye's career.”

Briggs seemed to be gasping for air very early on though so he will have to improve his fitness to improve his chances against Haye. Having said that, Haye looked like he had gained even more weight to me last night let alone lost a few pounds like Barry Mcguigan was saying he had. Haye's spare tyre looked obvious even when he was wearing his robe at the ring walk entrance and that can't be good for him either.

What gets on my nerves about Haye is that he chose to retire at 32 didn't he and I didn't hear anything about him being injured when he chose to retire, he said he wanted to get out while he could in one piece etc etc. I could tell that like most boxers he wouldn't be able to resist coming back and when he did he ended up wasting valuable years.

When/how did he get injured in those 3 years out anyway? I'm not asking about his toe either! Any other high profile boxer retire early in the past and never made a come back btw?
Aftershow
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Chief_Wiggum:
“This isn't the WWE.”

Perhaps someone should tell David Haye that, because this farcical comeback and organised 'spat' with Briggs certainly looks very close to the WWE to me.

Haye was a very good boxer before his retirement - perhaps he still is - but this whole comeback is about little more than trying to make a quick buck for him.
Scrumper
23-05-2016
Haye's injury occurred when he was thrown from his horse during the 2014 Grand National.
Nova21
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Styker:
“Briggs seemed to be gasping for air very early on though so he will have to improve his fitness to improve his chances against Haye. Having said that, Haye looked like he had gained even more weight to me last night let alone lost a few pounds like Barry Mcguigan was saying he had. Haye's spare tyre looked obvious even when he was wearing his robe at the ring walk entrance and that can't be good for him either.

What gets on my nerves about Haye is that he chose to retire at 32 didn't he and I didn't hear anything about him being injured when he chose to retire, he said he wanted to get out while he could in one piece etc etc. I could tell that like most boxers he wouldn't be able to resist coming back and when he did he ended up wasting valuable years.

When/how did he get injured in those 3 years out anyway? I'm not asking about his toe either! Any other high profile boxer retire early in the past and never made a come back btw?”

I know you sort of asked as a rhetorical question as there will be quite a lot, but Calzaghe comes to mind as high profile who when he said he was done, he was done...
Keyser_Soze1
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“I know you sort of asked as a rhetorical question as there will be quite a lot, but Calzaghe comes to mind as high profile who when he said he was done, he was done...”

Hagler was another one.

Although almost 30 years bitching about Ray has done him no favours in my eyes.
Styker
23-05-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“I know you sort of asked as a rhetorical question as there will be quite a lot, but Calzaghe comes to mind as high profile who when he said he was done, he was done...”

I'd forgoton about him but he did retire at quite a late age and he should have enough money to not to want to come back and he would have far to much to lose in coming back and risking his undefeated record.

My point/question too is the amount that didn't stay retired is low isn't it and the only ones who stayed retired were fighters at the end of their careers and made enough money BUT has there been any fighters that retired when they said they would and stayed retired at quite a young age? Haye said he wanted out at 30/31 and then retired at 32 and I had a strong feeling he would be back. He probably wanted to live it up a bit and then once he got that out of his system he decided to come back etc

Lennox Lewis also originally said he would retire as soon as possible in the early 1990's and during his first stint as WBC Champ I think but then that all changed once he lost his 0, he stayed for the long haul and retired late too. Not that I'm complaining on that as Lennox under Manny Steward's training was brilliant to watch.
Mark F
23-05-2016
Nick Blackwell has had quite a go at the Eubank's for being 'inhuman and disgusting' in their post fight reaction.

Is this a result of the injury maybe affected his views as I thought they were quite caring and sensible..
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