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Looks like the Leonard V Hagler legacy will continue next April, 30 years after the two ATGs fought each other!
http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-ma...e-face--106531 What a joke! I can't believe Messrs Leonard & Hagler would be happy to see their legacies tarnished with this farce. The would both beat their tomato can fathers out of the ring (even in their primes). Belly flops can be deadly!
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#3477 |
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What are you talking about?
The would both beat their tomato can fathers out of the ring (even in their primes). Belly flops can be deadly! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() PMSL. To be honest, Id rather watch SRL v Marvellous 2! ![]() They maybe in their 60s now, but they both look to be in better shape than their sons!
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#3478 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() PMSL. To be honest, Id rather watch SRL v Marvellous 2! ![]() They maybe in their 60s now, but they both look to be in better shape than their sons! ![]() ![]() It's all rather sad really, I have no idea why Ray and Marv have not put their foot down. What will it prove? Personally I had the original at 115-113 for Leonard. Actually would expect much the same result if had not retired in '82 and they had fought. Marv was faster then but Ray had only one fight in five years so he was hardly at his best either. |
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Anyone know what channel is showing Frampton V Santa Cruz?
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#3480 |
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Ugh Roy Jones wants another 5 fights before he retires.
The guy must have a death wish.
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Ugh Roy Jones wants another 5 fights before he retires.
The guy must have a death wish. ![]() ![]() She should have retired after Glenn Johnson sparked him over a decade ago. To see how far he has fallen is beyond tragic. He is an accident waiting to happen. |
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#3482 |
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Another five fights?
![]() She should have retired after Glenn Johnson sparked him over a decade ago. To see how far he has fallen is beyond tragic. He is an accident waiting to happen. Shane on his corner for allowing him to carry on when everyone could see he had nothing to give. He was actually shot for the first Tarver fight after going up to heavy then coming back down again far too quickly. He later said he should have took a year to 18 months off to get back down slowly. Even for the Tarver fight his speed snd reflexes were not there. No combinations just trying to load up with one punch and his punch resistance was also gone when he nearly went down to what was little more than a jab. After that fight it was rapidly down hill all the way. |
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Agreed! He just stood there like a statue gainst the ropes taking shots until the inevitable happened.
Shane on his corner for allowing him to carry on when everyone could see he had nothing to give. He was actually shot for the first Tarver fight after going up to heavy then coming back down again far too quickly. He later said he should have took a year to 18 months off to get back down slowly. Even for the Tarver fight his speed snd reflexes were not there. No combinations just trying to load up with one punch and his punch resistance was also gone when he nearly went down to what was little more than a jab. After that fight it was rapidly down hill all the way. He let his ego get in the way when Tarver was goading him for a fight. The thing is, Tarver is a bigger man than Jones Jr & Roy should have insisted that Antonio moved to HW, or at least CW if he wanted to fight so much. The even more ironic thing is that Tarver is now an HW and has been for a good while. |
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On the money.
He let his ego get in the way when Tarver was goading him for a fight. The thing is, Tarver is a bigger man than Jones Jr & Roy should have insisted that Antonio moved to HW, or at least CW if he wanted to fight so much. The even more ironic thing is that Tarver is now an HW and has been for a good while. Tarver was a decent fighter but nothing more than that. He lost to the tough but very predictable and rather plodding Johnson. Had his ears boxed off and lost every round to Hopkins. A young Jones thrashed Hopkibs so badky it made Hopkins change the way he fought. Jones just made a career ending blunder putting on do much weight to fight at heavy then going back down again far too quickly. It was an extremely ameturish blunder by team Jones as everyone in the game knows how damaging rapid wright loss is to a fighter. |
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Anyone see the Stevenson vs Williams Jnr fight yesterday? Well worth a watch. Stevenson needs to step up now though and fight Bieterbiev or winner of Kovalev vs Ward, I've had enough of him not fighting the top guys in his division.
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#3486 |
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Boxnation.
Santa Cruz appears to be the favourite but Frampton seems much happier at this weight. |
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Was surprised Santa Cruz was such a strong favourite when I saw the odds, might have a little tickle on Frampton.
Luke Campbell struggling again at the moment. e: well he ended up out-hustling the geezer, for what it's worth. Bizarre display by Mendez who just stopped doing anything. I can't see much improvement in Campbell. |
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Who is this bloke fighting dillan white? Never heard of him. Thought white was meant to be an up and coming boxer, shouldn't be calling out this bloke
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Dave Allen, from the Homer Simpson school of boxing. Might be working though, Whyte looks tired, not impressive at all here.
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Great fight from both Frampton and Santa Cruz very hard to call.
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Yes! Worth getting up for!
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Well done Frampton. Do like him as a fighter and was debating wether to get up for the fight but the bookies made Cruz such a big favourite that I thought they must know something I don't. Turns out they didn't and a link to a replay would be much appreciated. Ta
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Gave it 2 rounds up to Frampton and was trying to be genous to LSC incase the Judges favoured him.
Very sharp looking at this weight. Can't see him dropping down a weight again |
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Moving up the weights
I'm sure there's already been a few views on here about Brook, Golovkin. With the crazy Khan fight that appeared to be just about money at the end of it all, plus the MMA / UFC McGregor, Diaz fight, it seems that fighters aren't taking the weight divisions seriously enough.
A six pound weight difference has a huge effect in boxing, and Brook thinks he can move up TWO weight divisions to beat the best fighter there is at any weight? To me, it's just about money, and yes Brook is a fantastic welter weight, but I just can't see him winning that fight at middle, and he'll get stopped. Some fighters can move up the weight divisions successfully, but if Brook is serious, he should have taken at least a year to do it. He's not getting the money and big fights at welter, so he's taking too big a jump to get the big fight. Only problem is, it's the wrong big fight, and one he can't win. He'll be a lot richer at the end of it though and maybe that's all he's really bothered about now. McGregor is a boxer at heart, so I've included him in this post. UFC is different, and I don't think that McGregor would have taken the rematch if he wasn't sure he would have a decent chance of winning. It's about money there as well, but with McGregor I don't think it would ever just be about money. I'd give him a 55 / 45 chance of winning that one if he's much fitter than he was last time, and fights the right in and out fight. |
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I'm sure there's already been a few views on here about Brook, Golovkin. With the crazy Khan fight that appeared to be just about money at the end of it all, plus the MMA / UFC McGregor, Diaz fight, it seems that fighters aren't taking the weight divisions seriously enough.
A six pound weight difference has a huge effect in boxing, and Brook thinks he can move up TWO weight divisions to beat the best fighter there is at any weight? To me, it's just about money, and yes Brook is a fantastic welter weight, but I just can't see him winning that fight at middle, and he'll get stopped. Some fighters can move up the weight divisions successfully, but if Brook is serious, he should have taken at least a year to do it. He's not getting the money and big fights at welter, so he's taking too big a jump to get the big fight. Only problem is, it's the wrong big fight, and one he can't win. He'll be a lot richer at the end of it though and maybe that's all he's really bothered about now. McGregor is a boxer at heart, so I've included him in this post. UFC is different, and I don't think that McGregor would have taken the rematch if he wasn't sure he would have a decent chance of winning. It's about money there as well, but with McGregor I don't think it would ever just be about money. I'd give him a 55 / 45 chance of winning that one if he's much fitter than he was last time, and fights the right in and out fight. |
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Did anyone else notice Nick Halling not commentating for Sky on the weekend? Has he gone now?
I never liked him, or Jim Watt for that matter. Found them very biased towards Matchroom boxers. |
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Anyone see the Stevenson vs Williams Jnr fight yesterday? Well worth a watch. Stevenson needs to step up now though and fight Bieterbiev or winner of Kovalev vs Ward, I've had enough of him not fighting the top guys in his division.
Stevenson has been ducking the big names for far too long. I can't understand why, as he has the power to spark anyone, although I don't think he beats Kovalev, who is technically better, nor Ward, who would shut him down, outmuscle & outbox him. |
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Brook doesn't believe his moving up two divisions. His camp see him more of a 154lbs fighter who has killed himself to get to 147lbs.
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#3499 |
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In today's Sunday Life Frampton says he's looking at an immediate rematch with Santa Cruz before the end of the year.
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Brook doesn't believe his moving up two divisions. His camp see him more of a 154lbs fighter who has killed himself to get to 147lbs.
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