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misawa97
10-08-2016
Originally Posted by Tip top 2:
“On the night, I just think that Golovkin will be a lot bigger and stronger, and that Brook has made a miscalculation for the money. There are big money fights out here for him against the likes of Garcia, Vargas or even Liam Smith. That would have been a huge domestic fight, and a more realistic match up. Just can't see Brook having any chance at all, unless Golovkin has a huge off night.”

On paper yes but they offered Garcia more than $3 mil and he didn't take the fight.

Vargas took forever to agree to a $2 mil payday while Warren offered Brook £600k for the Smith fight which isn't great.

At 147lbs fighters are not in a rush to face Kell Brook.
crofter
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Damien_Johnson:
“Did anyone else notice Nick Halling not commentating for Sky on the weekend? Has he gone now?

I never liked him, or Jim Watt for that matter. Found them very biased towards Matchroom boxers.”

JIm Watt tends to form an opinion pre-match and largely sticks to it during his commentary - I think sometimes Halling gets drawn into having a similar view ... quite a few times I have thought I am watching a different fight from the pair of them.
Doghouse Riley
11-08-2016
Ronald McIntosh, the commentator on the BBC "red button" Olympic boxing coverage is dire, he never shuts up!
Too much trivial information given during the rounds.
Conversely ex-boxer Richie Woodhall, who only manages to get a few sentences in now and again, is excellent

They should sack McIntosh and give the job to Woodhall.
misawa97
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Ronald McIntosh, the commentator on the BBC "red button" Olympic boxing coverage is dire, he never shuts up!
Too much trivial information given during the rounds.
Conversely ex-boxer Richie Woodhall, who only manages to get a few sentences in now and again, is excellent

They should sack McIntosh and give the job to Woodhall.”

McIntosh is awful but Woodhall just sounds so boring. You could have Hagler v Hearns and Woodhall would still not sound excited.
Doghouse Riley
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“McIntosh is awful but Woodhall just sounds so boring. You could have Hagler v Hearns and Woodhall would still not sound excited.”

Each to their own, I don't need a commentator to sound excited.
I don't find him boring, he comments on what he sees.
That's all I need.
The "vocal excitement" comes from the spectators.
We don't need more Matt Bakers
dodrade
11-08-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Ronald McIntosh, the commentator on the BBC "red button" Olympic boxing coverage is dire, he never shuts up!
Too much trivial information given during the rounds.
Conversely ex-boxer Richie Woodhall, who only manages to get a few sentences in now and again, is excellent

They should sack McIntosh and give the job to Woodhall.”

Has Jim Neilly retired?
Damien_Johnson
11-08-2016
Great KO again for Buatsi earlier. He looks fantastic.

Looking forward to seeing Joe Joyce at some point too.
Serial Lurker
12-08-2016
Big Ron McIntosh is a great bloke and loves his boxing, but he can be sort of unbearable.
Nova21
12-08-2016
Buatsi also comes across as a very nice guy. Very humble.
Doghouse Riley
12-08-2016
Originally Posted by Serial Lurker:
“Big Ron McIntosh is a great bloke and loves his boxing, but he can be sort of unbearable.”

A "great bloke" would learn to shut up talking now and again.
He's worse than Motty for providing unnecessary information whilst the fight's in progress.
You don't get that over the tennis,. do you?
Jimmy_McNulty
12-08-2016
McIntosh just spews cliches all fight, it's very funny to listen to.
Tip top 2
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“On paper yes but they offered Garcia more than $3 mil and he didn't take the fight.

Vargas took forever to agree to a $2 mil payday while Warren offered Brook £600k for the Smith fight which isn't great.

At 147lbs fighters are not in a rush to face Kell Brook.”

If the GGG fight is mainly about money for Brook, I don't blame him for taking a big pay day. I'm a big fan, but as a genuine big fight contest, I think it will be disappointing. Huge fights are where two fighters of similar ability are in the ring.

When Brook gets hit with very fast, powerful and very accurate head and body shots, he won't have felt anything like it, and the shock will take him out of his game plan.

Brook is fast and powerful, but Golovkin is faster and more powerful. Good luck to Brook though at light middle where he could continue his career.
Matt35
03-09-2016
Originally Posted by Tip top 2:
“If the GGG fight is mainly about money for Brook, I don't blame him for taking a big pay day. I'm a big fan, but as a genuine big fight contest, I think it will be disappointing. Huge fights are where two fighters of similar ability are in the ring.

When Brook gets hit with very fast, powerful and very accurate head and body shots, he won't have felt anything like it, and the shock will take him out of his game plan.

Brook is fast and powerful, but Golovkin is faster and more powerful. Good luck to Brook though at light middle where he could continue his career.”

Brook has talked a lot àbout being able to make the weight which most knew he would anyway. The problem is can he take a punch from GGG, even GGG's trainer said that. With Brook 2 divisions down he's not gonna have fought anyone who punches as hard as GGG and i think the first one that really connects is gonna stun him.
kobashi100
06-09-2016
I went to the public workouts today and kell looks like he hasn't lost any speed at all. His punches looked sharp, hard and quick

looking forward to this fight for sure. should be great event!
Nova21
06-09-2016
He was still 7lb over the weight at the 7 day weigh in wasnt he?
Gutted that I wont be able to watch the fight, but really looking forward to it...
Damien_Johnson
06-09-2016
Brook will start better but GGG will settle in and the ref will stop it around rounds 8-10.

Not buying into the Matchroom schtick of 'he's a natural middleweight'. If that's the case, then why is this his first fight at this level?

Not surprised Brook is teasing not returning to welterweight either. Not with Spence waiting as his mandatory. Although i'll forgive him if he stays and KOs Eubank Jr.

In other news, apparently Hughie Fury will fight Andy Ruiz on the Tyson/Klitschko undercard in a WBO final eliminator. Good fight if it happens. Ruiz didn't impress in a close fight with journeyman Zumbano Love. So could be a wide UD for Hughie and a good test/name to put on his CV.
kobashi100
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by Damien_Johnson:
“Brook will start better but GGG will settle in and the ref will stop it around rounds 8-10.

Not buying into the Matchroom schtick of 'he's a natural middleweight'. If that's the case, then why is this his first fight at this level?

Not surprised Brook is teasing not returning to welterweight either. Not with Spence waiting as his mandatory. Although i'll forgive him if he stays and KOs Eubank Jr.

In other news, apparently Hughie Fury will fight Andy Ruiz on the Tyson/Klitschko undercard in a WBO final eliminator. Good fight if it happens. Ruiz didn't impress in a close fight with journeyman Zumbano Love. So could be a wide UD for Hughie and a good test/name to put on his CV.”

This idea that kell Brook is scared of Errol Spence is laughable. Fighting the most devastating puncher in boxing but he is scared of Spence.

Kell is a natural jnr middleweight. He can get down to 147 if he wants as he has done it his whole career but I not sure if he will want to keep boiling down and killing himself.

Will come down to what's fights are on the table.
Damien_Johnson
06-09-2016
Originally Posted by kobashi100:
“This idea that kell Brook is scared of Errol Spence is laughable. Fighting the most devastating puncher in boxing but he is scared of Spence.

Kell is a natural jnr middleweight. He can get down to 147 if he wants as he has done it his whole career but I not sure if he will want to keep boiling down and killing himself.

Will come down to what's fights are on the table.”

But he has nothing to lose against GGG in that respect.

Hearn and Brook have been telling everyone that they can't get 'big' fights at welterweight - well in Spence they have one. It would be dissapointing to now decide they they don't want anything to do with 147, win or lose against Golovkin.
misawa97
07-09-2016
I don't think brook should fight at 147lbs. He kills himself to get down to the weight. Unless it's a huge payday move up to 154.

The reason Brook has stayed at 147 is because he is a champion and that's the money Division for him. The hope was he would get big fights but nobody has wanted to fight him. At 154lbs the same money fights were not there so it made no sense to leave 147 unless he got a great offer like the one he got for fighting GGG. Remember he was only offered £600k to fight liam Smith which isn't much.

Brook wanted Garcia, Bradley or Khan as those were money fights.

Really excited about Saturday. I think brook is going to do very well. I think he will lose but I think he will be very competive. Brook has great timing, a very good Jab and decent speed. GGG doesn't move his head so the key is how hard brook punches. If it's not hard enough GGG won't mind taking shots to get his own shots off. Brooks footwork is key, he needs to move all night and needs to get off first. I think GGG wins late and probably hurts brook with body shots but brook will come away from this enhanced regardless.
misawa97
09-09-2016
What did people think of GGG at the presser yesterday. I do agree when some say he looked gaunt. Has he hit the weight too early?
Nova21
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by misawa97:
“What did people think of GGG at the presser yesterday. I do agree when some say he looked gaunt. Has he hit the weight too early?”

Didn't see It, but the weigh in is in around half an hour or so on sky sports news hopefully
misawa97
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“Didn't see It, but the weigh in is in around half an hour or so on sky sports news hopefully”

GGG looks off to me.

Brook looks beastly at 160lbs. This guy should never be going to 147lbs again!!!

Brook looks like his built into the weight. When Khan went to 155lbs v Canelo he looked soft and just ate himself into the weight.
kobashi100
09-09-2016
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“Didn't see It, but the weigh in is in around half an hour or so on sky sports news hopefully”

Cracking atmosphere at the weigh in. Kell looks amazing!

Absolute no way he should boil down to 147 ever again. GGG looks unwell, either weight issues or flu. He doesn't look 100%
Nova21
09-09-2016
Yeah, Brook looked good, potential to bulk up even more! GGG was very relaxed, not sure I agree he looks a bit off though!
Damien_Johnson
09-09-2016
Eddie Hearn/Sky are doing a great job of making out that Brook has a chance. He doesn't.

Golovkin does his business in the ring. He doesn't need to beat his chest and shout to prove a point. He isn't that type of boxer.

GGG TKO.
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