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Old 20-05-2014, 00:08
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BIB: That's the line that makes me want to watch a replay. Anyone got a link? Ta in advance.
It's on OD if you can access it.
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Old 20-05-2014, 22:21
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It's on OD if you can access it.
Cheers. just watched it, what a scrap. Don't know how Dickinson recovered from that. He doubled over and grimaced like his ribs were broken. At one stage I thought his trainer was going to throw the towel in. There has to be a rematch after the competition is over....
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Old 20-05-2014, 23:04
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Cheers. just watched it, what a scrap. Don't know how Dickinson recovered from that. He doubled over and grimaced like his ribs were broken. At one stage I thought his trainer was going to throw the towel in. There has to be a rematch after the competition is over....
To get up from 1 body shot knockdown is pretty uncommon, fighters that have done are usually lauded more than those that get up from a head shot knockdown (eg Barker vs Geale). But Dickinson got up from 3 in 1 round which I don't think i've seen before.
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Old 26-05-2014, 21:59
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Anyone watch 'the gloves are off' featuring Carl Froch and George Groves?

I've got to say it was brilliant. There is real hatred there. No doubt about it. You could see both of them wanted to punch each other but done well in restraining themselves.
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Old 29-05-2014, 22:43
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Suprised this thread hasn't been bumped with the big fight coming up.

Think Groves's talk of a left hook knockout is a pure feint. The only way he can win is the way he should have won last time, by stick and run and using his superior speed. Froch looked old at points in the first fight. Groves had a lot to do with that, but it remains to be seen if Froch is truly over the hill or he just unprepared for Groves that night.

I can't call it and can't wait for it.
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Old 30-05-2014, 02:14
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Suprised this thread hasn't been bumped with the big fight coming up.

Think Groves's talk of a left hook knockout is a pure feint. The only way he can win is the way he should have won last time, by stick and run and using his superior speed. Froch looked old at points in the first fight. Groves had a lot to do with that, but it remains to be seen if Froch is truly over the hill or he just unprepared for Groves that night.

I can't call it and can't wait for it.
It's Groves' fight to lose.

If he punches and moves he wins. Froch simply cannot cope with any kind of lateral movement. And after the last fight, we know he doesn't cope too well with Groves' power either. Let's face it, had that knockdown happened 30 seconds earlier Froch would have been knocked out in the first round. His legs were gone.

I think Froch is past his best and there for the taking. I won't be surprised if he is knocked out for the first time ever. You can't spend your entire career blocking punches with your face without it catching up with you eventually.
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Old 30-05-2014, 02:40
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I honestly can't see anything but a Groves UD.
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Old 30-05-2014, 19:40
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It's Groves' fight to lose.

If he punches and moves he wins. Froch simply cannot cope with any kind of lateral movement. And after the last fight, we know he doesn't cope too well with Groves' power either. Let's face it, had that knockdown happened 30 seconds earlier Froch would have been knocked out in the first round. His legs were gone.

I think Froch is past his best and there for the taking. I won't be surprised if he is knocked out for the first time ever. You can't spend your entire career blocking punches with your face without it catching up with you eventually.
This was the discussion i was having with my workmate today, the amount of fights Carl has had and the amount of thunderous head shots he's taken have to catch up sometime.

Im not a fan of Groves and hope Carl still has the hunger and resilience to put the young pretender in his place.

Whatever the outcome im expecting an explosive fight and cant wait.
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Old 30-05-2014, 21:01
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Groves always gets sloppy and always gets ragged. I think it's his fight to lose, and he might well oblige.
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Old 30-05-2014, 23:00
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This was the discussion i was having with my workmate today, the amount of fights Carl has had and the amount of thunderous head shots he's taken have to catch up sometime.

Im not a fan of Groves and hope Carl still has the hunger and resilience to put the young pretender in his place.

Whatever the outcome im expecting an explosive fight and cant wait.
I thought Froch looked old and slow in the first fight and I can't see how he can possibly hope to turn back the clock at 36-years-old considering how many hard fights he's had.

Froch took a beating in that fight and it will have taken a lot out of him. Groves, on the other hand, is young and can only improve. Apart from the last couple of rounds he had it all his own way and didn't take too many hard shots at all.

To be honest, I really wouldn't be surprised if Groves shocks everyone and knocks Froch out early. Groves can afford to go looking for him early and they both know Groves has the power to seriously hurt Carl. Froch can punch, but he's never been a one punch knockout artist and he's really not that dangerous at the beginning of a fight.
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Old 31-05-2014, 00:40
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I thought Froch looked old and slow in the first fight and I can't see how he can possibly hope to turn back the clock at 36-years-old considering how many hard fights he's had.

Froch took a beating in that fight and it will have taken a lot out of him. Groves, on the other hand, is young and can only improve. Apart from the last couple of rounds he had it all his own way and didn't take too many hard shots at all.

To be honest, I really wouldn't be surprised if Groves shocks everyone and knocks Froch out early. Groves can afford to go looking for him early and they both know Groves has the power to seriously hurt Carl. Froch can punch, but he's never been a one punch knockout artist and he's really not that dangerous at the beginning of a fight.
Froch is his own worst enemy.

He never knows when he's beaten and thats what i love about the guy.

Yes he may be older but with that comes experience, especially at world class level.

There's no doubt he's slowing but i just dont think he should be written off just yet.
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Old 31-05-2014, 00:43
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I think the pressure has switched to Groves - not many gave him a chance in the first fight and let's face it he ended up losing (albeit contentiously). This time round he is many people's favourite but in front of that sort of massive crowd and hype, experience may just count.

I think Froch will try and have a war with Groves from early on and Groves just won't be able to resist the invitation ...

Froch to win in 8 rounds for me.
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Old 31-05-2014, 01:27
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Froch is his own worst enemy.

He never knows when he's beaten and thats what i love about the guy.

Yes he may be older but with that comes experience, especially at world class level.

There's no doubt he's slowing but i just dont think he should be written off just yet.
Watch this video of Froch sparring Chris Eubank Jr in preparation for this fight. He really doesn't look good at all and Eubank bullies him all over the ring. I think Froch looks very slow and old here and he's breathing incredibly heavily.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vfd37A4z37M

After seeing this I'm actually putting money on Groves to win by knockout.

The more I think about it, the more I can't see anything but a Groves win. Let's not forget what happened in the first fight. Groves won almost every round and gave Froch a beating until that very controversial stoppage. Froch can make all the excuses he likes for that performance, but I really can't see how he can better it.

Froch is a very tough guy and has a good chin, but his boxing ability is very, very ordinary and he's no spring chicken. Groves is the better boxer technically, he has youth on his side and he knows he can hurt Froch and outbox him. Froch knows that too. I think Froch is really worried about the terrible start he made last time and he's going to come out aggressive as hell and walk right on to something again.
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Old 31-05-2014, 11:33
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Yes i agree i watched the froch eubank sparing but what you have to realise is he hates groves and groves should have finished him last time and he didnt and as the fight headed into the later rounds then froch started to gain control. I can see froch winning this in Round 7 he is a warrior and it will be a KO for the Cobra.
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Old 31-05-2014, 14:26
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Lethem money has gone on Froch in round 10. I thank you
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Old 31-05-2014, 14:28
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Yes i agree i watched the froch eubank sparing but what you have to realise is he hates groves and groves should have finished him last time and he didnt and as the fight headed into the later rounds then froch started to gain control. I can see froch winning this in Round 7 he is a warrior and it will be a KO for the Cobra.
What makes you think Froch can do anything different this time around? He's a very, very limited boxer and far from versatile.

Groves is the better boxer and he won almost every round in the first fight until that dodgy stoppage. I don't really see any reason why things should be different this time.

Eubank Jr couldn't miss him in that sparring session - especially with the right hand. Froch looked very slow and easy to hit. If Froch comes out guns blazing, I think he's going to get dropped again.
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Old 31-05-2014, 15:10
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Anyone know of a HD live stream for later? PM me please.
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Old 31-05-2014, 15:34
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Anyone watch 'the gloves are off' featuring Carl Froch and George Groves?

I've got to say it was brilliant. There is real hatred there. No doubt about it. You could see both of them wanted to punch each other but done well in restraining themselves.
I saw a few of the build up programs . Any idea what was going on between George and the bearded bouncer / security guard ? I initially presumed that they were mates but there looked to be a bit of tension between them ... the other guy looked a nice enough fella and came out of the confrontation with a lot of credit ..
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Old 31-05-2014, 15:36
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What makes you think Froch can do anything different this time around? He's a very, very limited boxer and far from versatile.

Groves is the better boxer and he won almost every round in the first fight until that dodgy stoppage. I don't really see any reason why things should be different this time.

Eubank Jr couldn't miss him in that sparring session - especially with the right hand. Froch looked very slow and easy to hit. If Froch comes out guns blazing, I think he's going to get dropped again.
I thought the same until Prince Naseem mentioned how Froch appeared to find a way to solving the problems when he fought Kessler in the re-match ..
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Old 31-05-2014, 15:38
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As anyone got a schedule for the fights tonight - showing the predicted times of each bout ?

I only want to watch two of the fights not the whole thing .

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Old 31-05-2014, 16:10
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6.30pm Anthony Joshua v Matt Legg
Followed by
Jamie McDonnell vs. Tabtimdaeng Na Rachawat
Followed by
Kevin Mitchell v Ghislain Maduma
Followed by
James DeGale v Brandon Gonzales
Followed by
9.45pm Carl Froch vs. George Groves

That's the best there is time-wise. The DeGale fight is pretty much guaranteed to go the distance I reckon, Joshua pretty much guaranteed to be a KO1, the other two, who knows.
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Old 31-05-2014, 17:22
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Groves to win on points. Its then one win each and sets up the rematch perfectly.
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Old 31-05-2014, 18:26
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I'm surprised the fight hasn't got its own thread. It's of much wider interest.
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Old 31-05-2014, 18:28
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Anyone got a stream for this?

I was supposed to be watching this at my mate's house, but he's stitched me up at the last minute and I don't have Sky.
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Old 31-05-2014, 18:31
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I saw a few of the build up programs . Any idea what was going on between George and the bearded bouncer / security guard ? I initially presumed that they were mates but there looked to be a bit of tension between them ... the other guy looked a nice enough fella and came out of the confrontation with a lot of credit ..
This wouldn't be Froch's idiot brother, Lee, would it? He has a beard.

Which show did you see this on?
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