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Old 27-09-2014, 23:29
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I Am Fed Up With Boxing Judges Did They Just Watch The Same Fight As I Did 119 -109 117-11 Is A Joke Smith We Are Proud Of You
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Old 27-09-2014, 23:32
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I was just waiting for the ridiculous judges scores!

Somebody had a 10 round difference? WTF?!?
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Old 27-09-2014, 23:39
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The scorecards were too wide but Abraham won that fight in my opinion by 2/3 rounds. The 119-109 scorecard though was ridiculous.
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Old 27-09-2014, 23:39
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The most atrocious judges scoring i've ever seen.

Credit to Smith, his time will come again.
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Old 27-09-2014, 23:42
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Abraham had that by a couple of rounds.

I thought 117-111 was bad enough but 119-109
Damages the credibility of the sport when you get cards like that.
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Old 27-09-2014, 23:43
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Can I ask how you know Smith? Are you involved in the boxing world or is it something else?

I really hope he wins.

Boxing is a pretty profitable sport for me betting wise, had a good win on the Buglioni fight last week.

I'm off to the Fury v Chisora fight, although at the moment am more excited by seeing eubank jr on the undercard as I'm a big fan of his.
Sorry, thought this posted earlier, stupid phone. I went to school with all 4 of them.
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Old 27-09-2014, 23:44
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I had Smith winning by 2, but can see why it could go to Abraham by the same score. It's what you like.

But for 2 117's and a 119, that is a disgrace.

Paul deserves a rematch after that, but get Abraham out of Germany so it's at least a fair fight.
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Old 28-09-2014, 12:07
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I had Smith winning by 1 or 2 but thought it could've gone either way. I think because Abraham was on top the 1st 3 rounds the judges thought he was in control of the other rounds but not exerting himself.

Smith had good success working the body and Abraham looked winded a few times, hope to see Smith competing at a high level again.
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Old 01-10-2014, 23:14
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Bellew v Cleverly on Box Office, are they having a laugh?
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:35
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Bellew v Cleverly on Box Office, are they having a laugh?
Strong undercard too though.

I wont mind paying for that to be honest. Will be a great fight. Always is when the 2 hate each other. And in this case you can tell they really do hate each other.
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Old 02-10-2014, 13:46
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It'll be a decent fight, but neither of them are particularly good and certainly not worth paying extra for. It's pretty much the perfect fight for Sky Sports. They've made a mistake here I think.

I doubt the undercard will be much to write home about, why would Hearn put Quigg and DeGale in with anyone who'd have a chance of beating them when he's already got his next two pay per views in mind with Frampton and Froch respectively (mind you I suspect him and Froch wouldn't mind too much if DeGale tripped up; DeGale is a tougher sell than Groves and the fight is far from a gimme).
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Old 02-10-2014, 16:26
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Froch destroys De Gale in my opinion, but thats a story for a different day.

Think Quigg needs to beat someone good, otherwise people will start to think even more that he is a paper champion.

Dont forget the Smiths, Stephen and Callum will be in action, plus more will be announced.

As for the main event, they both hate each other. They both could have had a a world title fight next, but they want this fight instead. I like Bellew, think he is a little limited in terms of ability, but he more than makes up for that with determination.

As for Cleverly, he was a World Champion who has only been beaten by a huge puncher.

For me, it will be a great fight and I for one dont mind paying the extra £15. Hell, might even try and get a ticket. Dont live too far from the Echo Arena.
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Old 04-10-2014, 00:12
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It really did. Think it was that punch that broke his hand and kept him out for a year.

Already had a bet on him to win it. Got a great feeling about it.
Didn't see it but from the comments and controversy, it seems Smith fought really well. Definitely he pushed Abraham much further than I thought he would. I won't even ask for my money back

Froch destroys De Gale in my opinion, but thats a story for a different day.
Really? The Froch of four years ago certainly but I don't how much Carl has left now. He could take it on points, but I don't see him destroying the same explosive Degale who fought so well off the ropes last time out. You are right about what a tough sell it would be though, especially if Degale has another of his boring stinkers in November instead of his recent stoppages
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Old 04-10-2014, 00:26
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It'll be a decent fight, but neither of them are particularly good and certainly not worth paying extra for. It's pretty much the perfect fight for Sky Sports. They've made a mistake here I think.

I doubt the undercard will be much to write home about, why would Hearn put Quigg and DeGale in with anyone who'd have a chance of beating them when he's already got his next two pay per views in mind with Frampton and Froch respectively (mind you I suspect him and Froch wouldn't mind too much if DeGale tripped up; DeGale is a tougher sell than Groves and the fight is far from a gimme).
I agree this is not a box office fight, I am surprised sky have gone down that route, it's definitely not a fight I would pay extra for. As for the undercard they will make sure that quigg and degale can't lose so they won't be fighting anyone decent.
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Old 04-10-2014, 18:16
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Didn't see it but from the comments and controversy, it seems Smith fought really well. Definitely he pushed Abraham much further than I thought he would. I won't even ask for my money back



Really? The Froch of four years ago certainly but I don't how much Carl has left now. He could take it on points, but I don't see him destroying the same explosive Degale who fought so well off the ropes last time out. You are right about what a tough sell it would be though, especially if Degale has another of his boring stinkers in November instead of his recent stoppages
Yeah, I think Froch will hit too hard for Degale. Degale gets hit way too easy for Froch not to KO him.

As for Smith, still not over the disappointment. Seen it a couple of times since and I still think he won.

Showed though that he does belong at that level and is a worthy challenger. Hope he gets the rematch but this time in a neutral country.
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Old 12-10-2014, 15:33
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http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/shan...itschko-fight/

I'd say so. even if Briggs is borderline certifiable!
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Old 12-10-2014, 17:00
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How long will it take Anthony Joshua to move through the ranks and be world champion?? I don't see any up and coming boxers who can live with him - even his jab looks a potent weapon and he seems to be getting bigger and stronger each fight.

If he fights David Price then he would destroy him in the first couple of rounds as he is far too fast and aggressive for Price - I highly doubt Price would take that fight ...

The major problem for Joshua is that he needs stepping up a level or two but the heavyweight division is full of journeymen and bums so it is quite hard to find somebody that will give him rounds under his belt.

I have no doubt he will fight the loser of Chisora vs Fury early 2015 but we won't really know how good AJ is until he is taken further than 2 or 3 rounds.
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Old 15-10-2014, 08:30
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How long will it take Anthony Joshua to move through the ranks and be world champion?? I don't see any up and coming boxers who can live with him - even his jab looks a potent weapon and he seems to be getting bigger and stronger each fight.

If he fights David Price then he would destroy him in the first couple of rounds as he is far too fast and aggressive for Price - I highly doubt Price would take that fight ...

The major problem for Joshua is that he needs stepping up a level or two but the heavyweight division is full of journeymen and bums so it is quite hard to find somebody that will give him rounds under his belt.

I have no doubt he will fight the loser of Chisora vs Fury early 2015 but we won't really know how good AJ is until he is taken further than 2 or 3 rounds.
No rush for him to be Champion. Think the only HW who will cause him problems is Wilder. And that's only because Wilder is a huge puncher.

Think he beats all at domestic level now, including Fury.

He looks an absolute monster though and has the dedication needed to dominate for years to come.
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Old 18-10-2014, 01:05
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How long will it take Anthony Joshua to move through the ranks and be world champion?? I don't see any up and coming boxers who can live with him - even his jab looks a potent weapon and he seems to be getting bigger and stronger each fight.

If he fights David Price then he would destroy him in the first couple of rounds as he is far too fast and aggressive for Price - I highly doubt Price would take that fight ...

The major problem for Joshua is that he needs stepping up a level or two but the heavyweight division is full of journeymen and bums so it is quite hard to find somebody that will give him rounds under his belt.

I have no doubt he will fight the loser of Chisora vs Fury early 2015 but we won't really know how good AJ is until he is taken further than 2 or 3 rounds.
Joshua hasn't even been hit yet!

I know the heavyweight division is probably the worst it's ever been in its entire history, but there's no guarantee that Joshua will end up with a world title.

A fight with David Price would definitely be interesting. As stiff and robotic as he is - not to mention his stamina problems - Price packs a serious punch. I'd like to see how Joshua stands up against someone who isn't a fat eastern European with no ambition.

From the little I've seen of Joshua, he looks the part to a degree, but he still makes basic mistakes and leaves himself open. I wonder how well he'd handle a big powerful guy like Price.
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Old 18-10-2014, 17:50
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Far to soon to talk about AJ as a World champ.

Yes he looks good but that has to be rated against the calibre of opponent.

For me as has been mentioned, there is definately a touch of the Bruno about him and i never really rated him.

Too muscle bound which aint good for long distance fights but is great for quick explosive fights.

We need to see how he responds once he's been tagged a few times and has gone beyond 5 rounds.

First he needs to clean up at domestic level and as poor as that is at the moment, isnt the formality that many seem to think it will be.
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Old 19-10-2014, 16:03
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Another spectacular performance by Golovkin.

GGG is something special & I can't see anybody testing him at MW right now.

He needs to go up to SMW as there are some beasts there.

It's a shame that Hopkins isn't fighting at MW anymore, as fight between those two would have been so hard to call.
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Old 22-10-2014, 16:34
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Another spectacular performance by Golovkin.

GGG is something special & I can't see anybody testing him at MW right now.

He needs to go up to SMW as there are some beasts there.

It's a shame that Hopkins isn't fighting at MW anymore, as fight between those two would have been so hard to call.
Agreed, I'd love to see him win all versions of the world title at Middleweight but time isn't on his side he's already 32, he needs to be getting it on with better competition. Cotto might be worth it at Middleweight even if its just to have a name, no-one else is worth it at Middle though imo, now that Sergio is done.

The divisions above and below (GGG isn't a huge middleweight) could have interesting and definitely more money making fights for him. If anyone has the balls to take him on.
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Old 22-10-2014, 20:16
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Agreed, I'd love to see him win all versions of the world title at Middleweight but time isn't on his side he's already 32, he needs to be getting it on with better competition. Cotto might be worth it at Middleweight even if its just to have a name, no-one else is worth it at Middle though imo, now that Sergio is done.

The divisions above and below (GGG isn't a huge middleweight) could have interesting and definitely more money making fights for him. If anyone has the balls to take him on.
Great points.

There's nothing left for GGG at MW.

There's no point in him beating up Cotto, as Miguel isn't really an MW & is probably a little past his best anyway.

All the mouthwatering fights that could potentially be open to him are, like you have said, against guys below or above him.

He needs to consider this imminently.
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Old 23-10-2014, 17:10
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I would love to see GGG up against Canelo. That would be an interesting fight to say the least.

Or if he did move up to SMW I would like to see him fight Froch.
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Old 24-10-2014, 13:39
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I would love to see GGG up against Canelo. That would be an interesting fight to say the least.

Or if he did move up to SMW I would like to see him fight Froch.
They offered to come to England and fight Froch and Eddie Hearn blew them off saying they could make that down the road. We all know there probably isn't a "down the road" for Froch as he's looking to retire soon. Would be an interesting fight though, Canelo also, as we don't know if GGG's power will move up or down the weights with him.
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