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Looks like Eubank Jr has inherited his father's lack of urgency at times.
Senior could be frustrating at times for that reason It's the reason why Carl Thompson beat him the first time round. Junior is going to have to learn to be a bit more urgent & not assume his opponent will fall when he decides to step it up later in fights. As for Fury -v- Chisora 2; Dereck has finally learnt that a professional boxer needs to get into shape & he still couldn't beat an out of shape Fury. Doesn't say much for him really & this should finally put paid to the notion that Chisora is anything more than a bang average gatekeeper. Wladimir Klitschko must mave been rolling around on his mansion floor, laughing like a Smash Martian at the prospect of facing either Fury or Chisora during that fight. Wladimir will go down in history as having the longest & easiest reign of any HW champion, thanks to the dross that pass as contenders in his era. |
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What awful night of boxing it was last night. Yes the Eubank/Saunders fight had action in it but the quality was pretty poor. The first 6 rounds were a complete no contest and then in the last 6 rounds Eubank Jnr was throwing so many air shots it was embarrassing.
As for the main event, can see why so many people just went home, it was beyond awful and it looked like Chisora had received more money to not to fight than he did to fight. Right from the very start he did not even want to fight and Fury still could not KO him. The commentators were shite as well, talking about Fury like he is some kind of real threat to Klitschko! Are they really being serious? I could of beat Chisora last night and knocked him out, yet Fury did not land more than 2/3 real hard shots all night. Sorry for the rant but the standard of British boxing over the last two weeks is pretty worrying |
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As it was on Boxnation the overrun didn't matter much for tv purposes, can't help but wonder what Five would've done with the schedule if they'd been showing it.
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I was at the event last night and have a few observations.
Firstly the Excel should not be allowed to host another boxing event. Secondly re Eubank v BJ the majority of the crowd thought Eubank had it in the bag, I will watch it on tv later to see if it came across the same way. Third re Fury v Chisora, it just looked like Del Boy wasn't interested at all, Fury was happy enough to sit behind his jab and beat him. Was in the same hotel as some of the boxers and met the whole Eubank camp (minus jr) before the fight and spoke to ronnie Davis this morning, he was not pleased with jr at all. Met Fury this morning and is by far the most pleasant boxer I have met, very decent chap. |
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I was at the event last night and have a few observations.
Firstly the Excel should not be allowed to host another boxing event. Secondly re Eubank v BJ the majority of the crowd thought Eubank had it in the bag, I will watch it on tv later to see if it came across the same way. Third re Fury v Chisora, it just looked like Del Boy wasn't interested at all, Fury was happy enough to sit behind his jab and beat him. Was in the same hotel as some of the boxers and met the whole Eubank camp (minus jr) before the fight and spoke to ronnie Davis this morning, he was not pleased with jr at all. Met Fury this morning and is by far the most pleasant boxer I have met, very decent chap. Security sounds terrible, people fighting in the stands, pissing in cups and up the walls. People being sold duplicate tickets so seating was pure trouble. Frank Warren has a lot to answer for. |
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Read some stuff on twitter regarding the event. Sounds like it was an absolute shambles.
Security sounds terrible, people fighting in the stands, pissing in cups and up the walls. People being sold duplicate tickets so seating was pure trouble. Frank Warren has a lot to answer for. |
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I was there last night and I swear that's the last time I give frank warren any of my money. The venue is just awful, not suitable for boxing at all. The security was pathetic, hardly saw any and those I did see weren't interested in any of the trouble that was kicking off.
I've honestly seen better organised riots. We left before the last fight, had no interest in it before let alone when it starts the wrong side of midnight. Thought BJS played eubank like a Stradivarius. Came out guns blazing then when Jnr got desperate he covered up. Ironically I think losing is the best thing that could of happened to Jnr, gives him time to take stock and realise he's not the second coming before it's too late. Lastly eubank Snr is an embaresment. Living vicariously thru his son. Ronnie Davis needs to tell him to leave the corner work to him and to sit down and shut up. Spent a fortune last night, never ever again. |
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I was there last night and I swear that's the last time I give frank warren any of my money. The venue is just awful, not suitable for boxing at all. The security was pathetic, hardly saw any and those I did see weren't interested in any of the trouble that was kicking off.
I've honestly seen better organised riots. We left before the last fight, had no interest in it before let alone when it starts the wrong side of midnight. Thought BJS played eubank like a Stradivarius. Came out guns blazing then when Jnr got desperate he covered up. Ironically I think losing is the best thing that could of happened to Jnr, gives him time to take stock and realise he's not the second coming before it's too late. Lastly eubank Snr is an embaresment. Living vicariously thru his son. Ronnie Davis needs to tell him to leave the corner work to him and to sit down and shut up. Spent a fortune last night, never ever again. He pretty much gifted that fight to Saunders in the opening 5 or 6 rounds and I believe he actually has a decent jab which was pretty much redundant on the night, everything was an all or nothing power shot. I think perhaps people are underestimating the performance of Fury as well - let's face it the heavyweight division is hardly overflowing with star turns and he will prove a worthwhile opponent for anybody in that division simply because of his size and reach. Chisora couldn't get near him and after 3 or 4 rounds you could see he knew it was a lost cause ... Fury could pretty much jab his way to a world title if need be. |
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did you watch last weekends PPV lol thats right PPV. quite sad how low british boxing has become
Chisora's performance last night was pathetic and the BJS v Eubank fight was just a scrappy, messy affair with both fighters looking like clumsy novices with not a prayer of doing anything at world level. |
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I was there last night and I swear that's the last time I give frank warren any of my money. The venue is just awful, not suitable for boxing at all. The security was pathetic, hardly saw any and those I did see weren't interested in any of the trouble that was kicking off.
I've honestly seen better organised riots. We left before the last fight, had no interest in it before let alone when it starts the wrong side of midnight. Thought BJS played eubank like a Stradivarius. Came out guns blazing then when Jnr got desperate he covered up. Ironically I think losing is the best thing that could of happened to Jnr, gives him time to take stock and realise he's not the second coming before it's too late. Lastly eubank Snr is an embaresment. Living vicariously thru his son. Ronnie Davis needs to tell him to leave the corner work to him and to sit down and shut up. Spent a fortune last night, never ever again. Fury is fighting again in Feb against a top 15 opponent of his choosing and then it should be wlad, but he thinks wlad will avoid it and drop the belt. |
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Anthony Joshua in all this.
I consider myself one of his harshest critics but even i have to concede he would have destroyed Chisora last night. As for Fury, you can only beat whoever is put in front of you and he done just that regardless of how scrappy he done it. I still think Fury will get owned when he actually meets a decent heavy, he has always left himself very open, but i suppose thats what makes him exciting to watch. |
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Anthony Joshua in all this.
I consider myself one of his harshest critics but even i have to concede he would have destroyed Chisora last night. As for Fury, you can only beat whoever is put in front of you and he done just that regardless of how scrappy he done it. I still think Fury will get owned when he actually meets a decent heavy, he has always left himself very open, but i suppose thats what makes him exciting to watch. I thought it was quite a mature performance from Fury last night. He didn't take any silly risks and boxed behind the jab quite well. It was certainly one of his better displays and he looked in reasonably good shape. A fight with Wlad would be interesting. Despite his flaws, Fury is a very big guy and Wlad isn't used to fighting people like him. It would also be interesting to see if Fury's prefight antics would have an effect on him. Wlad would be favourite, obviously, but I think Fury has the potential to surprise people and make a decent fight of it. It's absolutely impossible to make any judgement about Joshua. He hasn't even been hit yet. His next fight isn't likely to tell us much either. |
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Fury certainly did carry Chisora.
I'm broad agreement with the notion that he deliberately wanted to get some rounds under his belt. Saying that, beating a pudding like Chisora will in no way prepare him for Wladimir. Fury is far too easy to hit & I still don't think he's in proper shape. He will need to be in the shape of his life to take on Wladimir & he will also have to hope that at fast approaching 39, Wladimir might be on the slide. If I was Fury, I would be more inclined to try & take the Stiverne route to the top; that's if he beats Wilder. Even if Wilder wins, although Deontay hits harder than Wladimir, he's crude & hasn't fought at Wladimir's level & would probably be an easier test. |
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Even if Wilder wins, although Deontay hits harder than Wladimir, he's crude & hasn't fought at Wladimir's level & would probably be an easier test.
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Klitschko has got a 3 fight US deal apparently with the Wilder fight being the ultimate goal I imagine, so Wilder won't be rushing to fight him with that on the table. Mind you, looking at it objectively then Stiverne should be favourite for their fight so it might not all work out like that.
I think you've hit the nail on the head, Stiverne is a huge step up for Wilder, and Wlad is a huge step up from Stiverne. I'm not convinced by Wilder, seen enough videos of him being knocked down in the amateurs and pros against taxi drivers to question his punch resistance. The fact that he has 32 ko's in 32 fights also screams that he hasn't faced anyone decent yet also. Even if Wilder is the real deal, Wlad isn't against turning a fight into a clinch fest and bore his way to a UD. Tyson against Wlad could be interesting, but he's another who it's hard to pinpoint where he stands in the division; is he better than Povetkin, Pulev, Stiverne? Either way I'd like to see him fight one of these before Wlad, but that wont happen now. |
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What do the panel reckon for Amir Khan's chances against Devon Alexander? I haven't seen enough of Alexander to judge how good he is.
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What do the panel reckon for Amir Khan's chances against Devon Alexander? I haven't seen enough of Alexander to judge how good he is.
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25,000 quid for a pair of shorts eh???
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25,000 quid for a pair of shorts eh???
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He's going to look pretty stupid if he ends up sitting on the canvas in them.
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I dont particularly agree that Khan has a glass or suspect jaw.
He has taken some huge shots in some of his fights and survived them. The times he has hit the deck, i dont think many boxers in his weight division could withstand them either. Anyway as for tonight/tomorrows fight i think Khan should have the tools to win a unanimous and comfortable points decision. |
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I dont particularly agree that Khan has a glass or suspect jaw.
He has taken some huge shots in some of his fights and survived them. The times he has hit the deck, i dont think many boxers in his weight division could withstand them either. Anyway as for tonight/tomorrows fight i think Khan should have the tools to win a unanimous and comfortable points decision. khan has been pretty bad recently and inactive. wouldn't surprise me if he looked bad against devon too |
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he doesn't know how to survive when he's hurt. the only time i remember him taking shots was against maidana in round 10 and ended up winning.
khan has been pretty bad recently and inactive. wouldn't surprise me if he looked bad against devon too Think this fight is dependant on Khan sticking rigidly to his fight plan and not getting drawn into a slug fest. |
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Originally Posted by mcg3;76018364[B
]I dont particularly agree that Khan has a glass or suspect jaw.
He has taken some huge shots in some of his fights and survived them. The times he has hit the deck, i dont think many boxers in his weight division could withstand them either. [/b] Anyway as for tonight/tomorrows fight i think Khan should have the tools to win a unanimous and comfortable points decision. Quote:
he doesn't know how to survive when he's hurt. the only time i remember him taking shots was against maidana in round 10 and ended up winning.
khan has been pretty bad recently and inactive. wouldn't surprise me if he looked bad against devon too |
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Must admit his recent long term inactivity does slightly worry me but just feel his speed should see him through this.
Think this fight is dependant on Khan sticking rigidly to his fight plan and not getting drawn into a slug fest. |
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