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Syntax Error
30-11-2014
Looks like Eubank Jr has inherited his father's lack of urgency at times.

Senior could be frustrating at times for that reason It's the reason why Carl Thompson beat him the first time round.

Junior is going to have to learn to be a bit more urgent & not assume his opponent will fall when he decides to step it up later in fights.

As for Fury -v- Chisora 2; Dereck has finally learnt that a professional boxer needs to get into shape & he still couldn't beat an out of shape Fury.

Doesn't say much for him really & this should finally put paid to the notion that Chisora is anything more than a bang average gatekeeper.

Wladimir Klitschko must mave been rolling around on his mansion floor, laughing like a Smash Martian at the prospect of facing either Fury or Chisora during that fight.

Wladimir will go down in history as having the longest & easiest reign of any HW champion, thanks to the dross that pass as contenders in his era.
stu64
30-11-2014
What awful night of boxing it was last night. Yes the Eubank/Saunders fight had action in it but the quality was pretty poor. The first 6 rounds were a complete no contest and then in the last 6 rounds Eubank Jnr was throwing so many air shots it was embarrassing.

As for the main event, can see why so many people just went home, it was beyond awful and it looked like Chisora had received more money to not to fight than he did to fight. Right from the very start he did not even want to fight and Fury still could not KO him.

The commentators were shite as well, talking about Fury like he is some kind of real threat to Klitschko! Are they really being serious? I could of beat Chisora last night and knocked him out, yet Fury did not land more than 2/3 real hard shots all night.

Sorry for the rant but the standard of British boxing over the last two weeks is pretty worrying
PhilH36
30-11-2014
As it was on Boxnation the overrun didn't matter much for tv purposes, can't help but wonder what Five would've done with the schedule if they'd been showing it.
robborocks
30-11-2014
I was at the event last night and have a few observations.

Firstly the Excel should not be allowed to host another boxing event.

Secondly re Eubank v BJ the majority of the crowd thought Eubank had it in the bag, I will watch it on tv later to see if it came across the same way.

Third re Fury v Chisora, it just looked like Del Boy wasn't interested at all, Fury was happy enough to sit behind his jab and beat him.

Was in the same hotel as some of the boxers and met the whole Eubank camp (minus jr) before the fight and spoke to ronnie Davis this morning, he was not pleased with jr at all. Met Fury this morning and is by far the most pleasant boxer I have met, very decent chap.
kobashi100
30-11-2014
Originally Posted by robborocks:
“I was at the event last night and have a few observations.

Firstly the Excel should not be allowed to host another boxing event.

Secondly re Eubank v BJ the majority of the crowd thought Eubank had it in the bag, I will watch it on tv later to see if it came across the same way.

Third re Fury v Chisora, it just looked like Del Boy wasn't interested at all, Fury was happy enough to sit behind his jab and beat him.

Was in the same hotel as some of the boxers and met the whole Eubank camp (minus jr) before the fight and spoke to ronnie Davis this morning, he was not pleased with jr at all. Met Fury this morning and is by far the most pleasant boxer I have met, very decent chap.”

Read some stuff on twitter regarding the event. Sounds like it was an absolute shambles.

Security sounds terrible, people fighting in the stands, pissing in cups and up the walls.

People being sold duplicate tickets so seating was pure trouble.

Frank Warren has a lot to answer for.
Makosi's pants
30-11-2014
Originally Posted by hunter23:
“erm, how about you stfu ”

Easy there hunter! You carry on like that and I might have to ask Frank warren to promote our next fight! I normally fight at couchpotatoweight, how about you?

Originally Posted by kobashi100:
“Read some stuff on twitter regarding the event. Sounds like it was an absolute shambles.

Security sounds terrible, people fighting in the stands, pissing in cups and up the walls.

People being sold duplicate tickets so seating was pure trouble.

Frank Warren has a lot to answer for.”

Radio anecdote said people snuck in for free as well? How stupid does Warren look now, laughing at the card last week?
oblivian
30-11-2014
I was there last night and I swear that's the last time I give frank warren any of my money. The venue is just awful, not suitable for boxing at all. The security was pathetic, hardly saw any and those I did see weren't interested in any of the trouble that was kicking off.
I've honestly seen better organised riots.
We left before the last fight, had no interest in it before let alone when it starts the wrong side of midnight.
Thought BJS played eubank like a Stradivarius. Came out guns blazing then when Jnr got desperate he covered up. Ironically I think losing is the best thing that could of happened to Jnr, gives him time to take stock and realise he's not the second coming before it's too late.
Lastly eubank Snr is an embaresment. Living vicariously thru his son. Ronnie Davis needs to tell him to leave the corner work to him and to sit down and shut up.
Spent a fortune last night, never ever again.
crofter
30-11-2014
Originally Posted by oblivian:
“I was there last night and I swear that's the last time I give frank warren any of my money. The venue is just awful, not suitable for boxing at all. The security was pathetic, hardly saw any and those I did see weren't interested in any of the trouble that was kicking off.
I've honestly seen better organised riots.
We left before the last fight, had no interest in it before let alone when it starts the wrong side of midnight.
Thought BJS played eubank like a Stradivarius. Came out guns blazing then when Jnr got desperate he covered up. Ironically I think losing is the best thing that could of happened to Jnr, gives him time to take stock and realise he's not the second coming before it's too late.
Lastly eubank Snr is an embaresment. Living vicariously thru his son. Ronnie Davis needs to tell him to leave the corner work to him and to sit down and shut up.
Spent a fortune last night, never ever again.”

I agree that losing is not a bad thing but unfortunately I think his father is too invested in the boy and that is actually going to ultimately hold him back, can he also lose his father or at least persuade him to take a backseat once the actual boxing starts. If not I fear for the kid.

He pretty much gifted that fight to Saunders in the opening 5 or 6 rounds and I believe he actually has a decent jab which was pretty much redundant on the night, everything was an all or nothing power shot.

I think perhaps people are underestimating the performance of Fury as well - let's face it the heavyweight division is hardly overflowing with star turns and he will prove a worthwhile opponent for anybody in that division simply because of his size and reach. Chisora couldn't get near him and after 3 or 4 rounds you could see he knew it was a lost cause ... Fury could pretty much jab his way to a world title if need be.
Flat Matt
30-11-2014
Originally Posted by hunter23:
“did you watch last weekends PPV lol thats right PPV. quite sad how low british boxing has become”

Last weekend's PPV was equally embarrassing for British boxing. The undercard was terrible, but at least the main event saw both fighters throw a few punches now and then.

Chisora's performance last night was pathetic and the BJS v Eubank fight was just a scrappy, messy affair with both fighters looking like clumsy novices with not a prayer of doing anything at world level.
robborocks
30-11-2014
Originally Posted by oblivian:
“I was there last night and I swear that's the last time I give frank warren any of my money. The venue is just awful, not suitable for boxing at all. The security was pathetic, hardly saw any and those I did see weren't interested in any of the trouble that was kicking off.
I've honestly seen better organised riots.
We left before the last fight, had no interest in it before let alone when it starts the wrong side of midnight.
Thought BJS played eubank like a Stradivarius. Came out guns blazing then when Jnr got desperate he covered up. Ironically I think losing is the best thing that could of happened to Jnr, gives him time to take stock and realise he's not the second coming before it's too late.
Lastly eubank Snr is an embaresment. Living vicariously thru his son. Ronnie Davis needs to tell him to leave the corner work to him and to sit down and shut up.
Spent a fortune last night, never ever again.”

Yep Davis was not happy this morning, in his own words re Eubank jr, 'he needs to remember he's a boxer, not a f***ing Hollywood star. He needs to get the job done before he does all that sh*t'

Fury is fighting again in Feb against a top 15 opponent of his choosing and then it should be wlad, but he thinks wlad will avoid it and drop the belt.
mcg3
30-11-2014
Surprised nobody has mentioned Anthony Joshua in all this.

I consider myself one of his harshest critics but even i have to concede he would have destroyed Chisora last night.

As for Fury, you can only beat whoever is put in front of you and he done just that regardless of how scrappy he done it.

I still think Fury will get owned when he actually meets a decent heavy, he has always left himself very open, but i suppose thats what makes him exciting to watch.
Flat Matt
30-11-2014
Originally Posted by mcg3:
“Surprised nobody has mentioned Anthony Joshua in all this.

I consider myself one of his harshest critics but even i have to concede he would have destroyed Chisora last night.

As for Fury, you can only beat whoever is put in front of you and he done just that regardless of how scrappy he done it.

I still think Fury will get owned when he actually meets a decent heavy, he has always left himself very open, but i suppose thats what makes him exciting to watch.”

I'm sure Fury could have destroyed Chisora last night had he chosen to. It looked to me like he treated the fight as an opportunity to get some rounds under his belt after the cancellations and postponements he's been plagued by over the past couple of years. He really could have taken Chisora out at any time and gave him a sustained beating.

I thought it was quite a mature performance from Fury last night. He didn't take any silly risks and boxed behind the jab quite well. It was certainly one of his better displays and he looked in reasonably good shape. A fight with Wlad would be interesting. Despite his flaws, Fury is a very big guy and Wlad isn't used to fighting people like him. It would also be interesting to see if Fury's prefight antics would have an effect on him. Wlad would be favourite, obviously, but I think Fury has the potential to surprise people and make a decent fight of it.

It's absolutely impossible to make any judgement about Joshua. He hasn't even been hit yet. His next fight isn't likely to tell us much either.
Syntax Error
01-12-2014
Fury certainly did carry Chisora.

I'm broad agreement with the notion that he deliberately wanted to get some rounds under his belt.

Saying that, beating a pudding like Chisora will in no way prepare him for Wladimir.

Fury is far too easy to hit & I still don't think he's in proper shape.

He will need to be in the shape of his life to take on Wladimir & he will also have to hope that at fast approaching 39, Wladimir might be on the slide.

If I was Fury, I would be more inclined to try & take the Stiverne route to the top; that's if he beats Wilder.

Even if Wilder wins, although Deontay hits harder than Wladimir, he's crude & hasn't fought at Wladimir's level & would probably be an easier test.
Serial Lurker
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by Syntax Error:
“Even if Wilder wins, although Deontay hits harder than Wladimir, he's crude & hasn't fought at Wladimir's level & would probably be an easier test.”

Klitschko has got a 3 fight US deal apparently with the Wilder fight being the ultimate goal I imagine, so Wilder won't be rushing to fight him with that on the table. Mind you, looking at it objectively then Stiverne should be favourite for their fight so it might not all work out like that.
FrostyJim
02-12-2014
Originally Posted by Serial Lurker:
“Klitschko has got a 3 fight US deal apparently with the Wilder fight being the ultimate goal I imagine, so Wilder won't be rushing to fight him with that on the table. Mind you, looking at it objectively then Stiverne should be favourite for their fight so it might not all work out like that.”




I think you've hit the nail on the head, Stiverne is a huge step up for Wilder, and Wlad is a huge step up from Stiverne. I'm not convinced by Wilder, seen enough videos of him being knocked down in the amateurs and pros against taxi drivers to question his punch resistance. The fact that he has 32 ko's in 32 fights also screams that he hasn't faced anyone decent yet also. Even if Wilder is the real deal, Wlad isn't against turning a fight into a clinch fest and bore his way to a UD.

Tyson against Wlad could be interesting, but he's another who it's hard to pinpoint where he stands in the division; is he better than Povetkin, Pulev, Stiverne? Either way I'd like to see him fight one of these before Wlad, but that wont happen now.
Makosi's pants
12-12-2014
What do the panel reckon for Amir Khan's chances against Devon Alexander? I haven't seen enough of Alexander to judge how good he is.
FrostyJim
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by Makosi's pants:
“What do the panel reckon for Amir Khan's chances against Devon Alexander? I haven't seen enough of Alexander to judge how good he is.”

Don't like him since he cried his way through the Tim Bradley fight. He can be an incredibly boring boxer as well, and cant punch particularly hard. Honestly I don't think Amir will have a problem if he sticks to a game plan, he should have Devon beat on hand speed alone. That said with Amir's chin, you never know.
Manc-Red
13-12-2014
25,000 quid for a pair of shorts eh???
Makosi's pants
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by Manc-Red:
“25,000 quid for a pair of shorts eh???”

He's going to look pretty stupid if he ends up sitting on the canvas in them.
Manc-Red
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by Makosi's pants:
“He's going to look pretty stupid if he ends up sitting on the canvas in them.”

There's every chance that will happen with "old glass chin"
mcg3
13-12-2014
I dont particularly agree that Khan has a glass or suspect jaw.

He has taken some huge shots in some of his fights and survived them.

The times he has hit the deck, i dont think many boxers in his weight division could withstand them either.

Anyway as for tonight/tomorrows fight i think Khan should have the tools to win a unanimous and comfortable points decision.
hunter23
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by mcg3:
“I dont particularly agree that Khan has a glass or suspect jaw.

He has taken some huge shots in some of his fights and survived them.

The times he has hit the deck, i dont think many boxers in his weight division could withstand them either.

Anyway as for tonight/tomorrows fight i think Khan should have the tools to win a unanimous and comfortable points decision.”

he doesn't know how to survive when he's hurt. the only time i remember him taking shots was against maidana in round 10 and ended up winning.

khan has been pretty bad recently and inactive. wouldn't surprise me if he looked bad against devon too
mcg3
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by hunter23:
“he doesn't know how to survive when he's hurt. the only time i remember him taking shots was against maidana in round 10 and ended up winning.

khan has been pretty bad recently and inactive. wouldn't surprise me if he looked bad against devon too”

Must admit his recent long term inactivity does slightly worry me but just feel his speed should see him through this.

Think this fight is dependant on Khan sticking rigidly to his fight plan and not getting drawn into a slug fest.
Styker
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by mcg3;76018364[B:
“]I dont particularly agree that Khan has a glass or suspect jaw.

He has taken some huge shots in some of his fights and survived them.

The times he has hit the deck, i dont think many boxers in his weight division could withstand them either.
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Anyway as for tonight/tomorrows fight i think Khan should have the tools to win a unanimous and comfortable points decision.”

Originally Posted by hunter23:
“he doesn't know how to survive when he's hurt. the only time i remember him taking shots was against maidana in round 10 and ended up winning.

khan has been pretty bad recently and inactive. wouldn't surprise me if he looked bad against devon too”

I don't think people who say "he/boxers can take a punch" even consider how hard KO/Knock Down Punches are. People can be as tough as nails in their own punching power but as Frank Bruno used to say "You can't put muscles on a chin" and he is so right.
Styker
13-12-2014
Originally Posted by mcg3:
“Must admit his recent long term inactivity does slightly worry me but just feel his speed should see him through this.

Think this fight is dependant on Khan sticking rigidly to his fight plan and not getting drawn into a slug fest.”

Devon Alexander lost to Shawn Porter didn't he and I saw that Porter fight when he lost his belt and I wasn't that impressed with Porter in general. He was busy and tried to land heavy but he wasn't really a puncher. If Alexander is the same as Porter in punching power or worse then Khan should beat him easy. I saw a clip of Alexander earlier on and he looks like he's got a bit more snap to his punching so I'm surprised that he lost to Porter.
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