Originally Posted by Daniel_Gleeball:
“I think everyone has their own terminology in regard to Floyd. I don't think either is right or wrong. Depends on the context. I personally would call Mayweather a defensive boxer because he is very much an avoid getting hit at all costs boxer, some might see that as a counter puncher. Like football. Some would call italian football teams style of play as counter attacking, some would say containment, others would say defensive.
I agree totally with you. Manny may punch harder, may be the more likeable guy, but Floyd is my opinion a better boxer. His record speaks for itself. He always finds a way to win even if can be liking watching paint dry at times.”
8 world titles at different weights, and apart from the Marquez loss where most people agree that Marquez was pumped on steroids (
http://www.sportsworldnews.com/artic...ious-video.htm), Pacquiao has the edge. Fighters who both Pacquaio and Mayweather have fought?
Hatton. Pacquiao had the better victory. Cotto. Pacquaio had the better victory. Mosely.. the list goes on.
Mayweather is obsessed with his zero record, and when has any boxing pundit put together a list of the best ever 'defensive' fighters?!
You're either an all time great fighter as Pacquiao is, or you're not. Who were the best ever football teams? The boring Italian teams who would snatch a win on penalties (no disrespect to Italian football, just being honest), or the great Brazil or German teams? It's a no brainer.
Mayweather does not appear on any all time great fighter list. All time great fighters were all come forward, aggressive fighters who fought the best in their divisions. Mayweather ticks none of the boxes.
Leonard was an all time great, and could run and dance around a ring a lot better than Mayeather. He also came forward, engaged opponents and fought all comers. Think the Hearns fights, Hagler and two of the Duran fights. Ali did likewise as did all the greats.
A very good analysis by a guy who talks a lot of sense:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pe4qbXylrE
There's a few references to drugs on this thread and it's another Mayweather excuse. Pacquiao v Marquez 4 shows what someone on steroids looks like (
http://www.sportsworldnews.com/artic...ious-video.htm). Watch the video and the weigh in. Pacquaio doesn't look pumped up to me in any fights. He's put muscle on, but he doesn't look like any Ben Johnson, Marquez or body builder. He's worked hard, very hard. That's it imo.
Another very good analysis by a boxer who knows his stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd3io8aVRgs
It's not about disliking Mayweather. When he fought Hatton, I backed Mayweather because I thought he'd win. He exposed a good fighter in Hatton, and won a fair fight.
At the end of the day if Mayweather offered to fight in my backyard.. I'd draw the curtains..