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Khan is fighting Algieri next, the guy who was knocked down about 5 times vs Pacquiao.
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Amir Khan is becoming a joke. The continued refusal to face any fighter with remotely any power is embarrassing. He keeps fighting feather fisted non welterweights yet somehow believes he deserves a fight v Mayweather lol.
His frightened to fight Brook!!! |
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The Algieri fight is a complete nothing fight, Manny fought him when he was holding a belt so that at least made some sense.
I think Khan is in a position where he is chasing that mega fight with either Manny or Mayweather and he's not wanting to risk that by fighting somebody who might actually beat him. |
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Another not-really-a-welterweight. Terrible fight.
Thing is, if Mayweather v Pacquiao is in any way close then they'll have a rematch, both are close to retirement, they could well choose to fight Cotto for the lineal middleweight championship (as much as a joke that is)... there are so many ways which a Khan fight is way down the pecking order for them. |
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You have to wonder why Khan would swerve the most natural fight in the division?
Khan talks as if he's a major superpower at welterweight, yet he's only had a couple of fights in the division. He's long looked down his nose at Brook, yet, here is an opportunity to take Brook's title off him & he's swerving it! Whovever is advising Khan must be the same person that has been advising Chicken Run Cameron! |
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Originally Posted by Syntax Error;77566648[B
]You have to wonder why Khan would swerve the most natural fight in the division?[/b]
Khan talks as if he's a major superpower at welterweight, yet he's only had a couple of fights in the division. He's long looked down his nose at Brook, yet, here is an opportunity to take Brook's title off him & he's swerving it! Whovever is advising Khan must be the same person that has been advising Chicken Run Cameron! I'm watching the Kell Brook fight with with Jo Jo Dan and while Brook might be a biggish boxer and has some power, i think he is too slow foot speed wise and Khan will be able to stick and move around him easy. I'm not sure if Brook's general punching would hurt Khan either but a biggish shot from Brook could IF he manages to land one properly. How on earth did this Jo Jo Dan get the mandatory slot? In my view, its more evidence that the IBF is one fo the boxing organisations for fighters to avoid and this is another reason why Khan may not want the fight with Brook as he said he wouldn't fight for the IBF Belt again after the IBF didn't strip Lamont Peterson of the belt after it merged that Peterson had been using drugs before his fight with Khan. |
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How on earth did this Jo Jo Dan get the mandatory slot? In my view, its more evidence that the IBF is one fo the boxing organisations for fighters to avoid and this is another reason why Khan may not want the fight with Brook as he said he wouldn't fight for the IBF Belt again after the IBF didn't strip Lamont Peterson of the belt after it merged that Peterson had been using drugs before his fight with Khan.
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Huh, overmatched mandatorys always happen regardless of the organisation. Dmitry Salita anyone? As a boxer sometimes you get lucky and have a soft one, sometimes you get someone you'd rather avoid. Brook got the former, Shawn Porter got the latter when his mandatory was Brook. The IBF are the only ones who actually enforce mandatories, so sometimes you'll get mismatches, but it's preferable to situations like when Golovkin was the WBA mandatory to Sturm for about 2 years with nothing ever happening about it.
I'm pretty sure Naseem Hamed gave up the IBF belt more than once because of the IBF insisting he fight their madatory but the question is, how do the madatory's become the mandatory's? How did this Jo Dan guy become the mandatory? Who did he fight to become the IBF's number 1 challenger?
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I don't think anyone really knows how these random nobodies become mandatories, it's boxing so it'll involve politicking and a few "incentives" to the right people.
I'm long past the point of particularly caring about world belts to be honest. The American networks have got it right by giving them as little mention as possible. We all know who the real champions are, regardless of who carries a belt. |
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I don't think anyone really knows how these random nobodies become mandatories, it's boxing so it'll involve politicking and a few "incentives" to the right people.
I'm long past the point of particularly caring about world belts to be honest. The American networks have got it right by giving them as little mention as possible. We all know who the real champions are, regardless of who carries a belt. |
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Because he's hoping to get the fight with the winner of Mayweather/Pacquiao I think is the obvious answer and just wants an easy fight to fill the gap in the mean time.
I'm watching the Kell Brook fight with with Jo Jo Dan and while Brook might be a biggish boxer and has some power, i think he is too slow foot speed wise and Khan will be able to stick and move around him easy. I'm not sure if Brook's general punching would hurt Khan either but a biggish shot from Brook could IF he manages to land one properly. How on earth did this Jo Jo Dan get the mandatory slot? In my view, its more evidence that the IBF is one fo the boxing organisations for fighters to avoid and this is another reason why Khan may not want the fight with Brook as he said he wouldn't fight for the IBF Belt again after the IBF didn't strip Lamont Peterson of the belt after it merged that Peterson had been using drugs before his fight with Khan. Jo Jo Dan was a terrible opponent & I'm staggered he was a number one contender. The 147lb division has so much talent at the moment & they're so many good fighters in & around the welterweight division & yet, the IBF somehow shoehorned Dan into their mandatory position.
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I know he's only had 11 fights but I think Anthony Joshua needs a serious step up in the class of his opponents. None of his opponents have given him any trouble whatsover so far and I think he'd easily put away David Price and Del Chisora but they might give him a few more rounds. Tyson Fury should be on the cards after those two and he could probbaly beat him now too and probably could have beaten Fury ages ago too.
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Yeah it was another total mismatch from that saviour of British boxing Eddie Hearn. I think the only way he managed to get away with this one is because Joshua was coming back from an injury.
Nevermnd he will be stepping up to face 35yr old Kevin Johnson who hasn't fought for 13 months and has lost his last three ... has he simply come for one last payday or will he offer anything to trouble Joshua?? |
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Yeah it was another total mismatch from that saviour of British boxing Eddie Hearn. I think the only way he managed to get away with this one is because Joshua was coming back from an injury.
Nevermnd he will be stepping up to face 35yr old Kevin Johnson who hasn't fought for 13 months and has lost his last three ... has he simply come for one last payday or will he offer anything to trouble Joshua?? What do people expect to learn about AJ from an ageing has been. I do rate AJ but he needs to be given some serious opponents so we can assess just how good he really is. |
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Another mismatch if ever there was one.
What do people expect to learn about AJ from an ageing has been. I do rate AJ but he needs to be given some serious opponents so we can assess just how good he really is. Not a bad bill but not PPV by any means. |
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As you say never PPV material - Gavin is a good domestic and European level fighter who is nowhere near the level of Kell Brook.
Doubt they will do much business on the PPV front. |
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As you say never PPV material - Gavin is a good domestic and European level fighter who is nowhere near the level of Kell Brook.
Doubt they will do much business on the PPV front. I think it'll get to the stage where anybody remotely good on Matchroom's books will be PPV, he seems to be aiming for the casual fan the way he's hyping things up, he tries to make AJ steamrollering elderly bouncers seem like Ali-Frazier.
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Unlikely as he's one of Hearn's cash cows, on top of that the bill he fights Johnson has just been announced as PPV with Brook fighting Frankie Gavin as the headliner.
Not a bad bill but not PPV by any means. As others have said I can't see that fight doing well on PPV, I personally would never pay to see that card. Plus the mayweather fight is in may, I am not sure too many people are going to pay for two events in the same month. |
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Dunno, Hearn did all right out of the Bellew-Cleverly PPV, and back in the day Sky had Khan on PPV knocking over journeymen until Prescott flattened him.
I think it'll get to the stage where anybody remotely good on Matchroom's books will be PPV, he seems to be aiming for the casual fan the way he's hyping things up, he tries to make AJ steamrollering elderly bouncers seem like Ali-Frazier. ![]() Brook is nowhere near as well known despite being a world champion ... |
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When will the Mayweather/pacquiao fight be on Sky Sports to watch? A week after the fight takes place? It normally takes Sky Sports about a week to show a fight that was originally on Pay Per View doesn't it?
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When will the Mayweather/pacquiao fight be on Sky Sports to watch? A week after the fight takes place? It normally takes Sky Sports about a week to show a fight that was originally on Pay Per View doesn't it?
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I don't know the answer TBH, but I would guess that with a fight this big, it could be at least 14 days before they considered showing it on Sky Sports.
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This is not as good a fight as it should have been as Paccio is way past his prime and has lost a few fights recently so I'm not that bothered that I cant watch to be honest
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This is not as good a fight as it should have been as Paccio is way past his prime and has lost a few fights recently so I'm not that bothered that I cant watch to be honest
Boxing is a hard and brutal sport and i fear Manni has taken more punishment than id prefer. That last Ko he suffered was double brutal. That said though, this is still going to be one of the best fights ever, with the prospect of a second fight. I would have thought a must see fight. |
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Both fighters are past their prime, but Mayweather has taken the least punishment over his career.
Boxing is a hard and brutal sport and i fear Manni has taken more punishment than id prefer. That last Ko he suffered was double brutal. That said though, this is still going to be one of the best fights ever, with the prospect of a second fight. I would have thought a must see fight.
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