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any uk fans here staying up tonight? im only interested in broner-porter, what time will that fight start?
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any uk fans here staying up tonight? im only interested in broner-porter, what time will that fight start?
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Porter won that by miles. Totally outworked Broner. Don't know what the judge who scored it by two was watching. Maybe he only woke up when Broner knocked Porter down. Well done Porter - don't know what Broner will do now - talk more probably
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Porter won that by miles. Totally outworked Broner. Don't know what the judge who scored it by two was watching. Maybe he only woke up when Broner knocked Porter down. Well done Porter - don't know what Broner will do now - talk more probably
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Broner should fight Garcia, another fighter that is in limbo between 140 and 147.
I'd quite like to see Porter vs Khan, I think that would be a nice mix of styles. |
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A shame Paul smith couldn't pull off a shock but really that was never gonna happen. No idea what the game plan was, maybe get to last round and use up every bit of energy he had and try knock out ward. To be fair what ever plan he'd had wouldn't have worked because he was completly outclassed. Wonder if froch will fancy a rematch?
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It was never gonna happen for Smith, it was a tune up for Ward after being out for so long. I suppose he could've jumped on him from the start guns blazing, but there's literally nothing he could've done to win. Ward v Smith is like a full army division against one bloke throwing stones.
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Wasn't impressed with broner's attitude after his fight. Glad porter beat him. I'm not big fan of the trash talk before fights but if you do that then you damn well better back it up and he didn't.
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Maidana has really taken Broner's soul.
Broner looked like a special talent about 3 years ago, but the Maidana fight knocked the stuffing out of him. Maybe he should stop eating all the pies & stay down at 135 or 140, because he sure isn't a Welterweight. The 147lb division is smoking hot right now & there a some beasts there that would have their fill of him quite easily. |
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Maidana has really taken Broner's soul.
Broner looked like a special talent about 3 years ago, but the Maidana fight knocked the stuffing out of him. Maybe he should stop eating all the pies & stay down at 135 or 140, because he sure isn't a Welterweight. The 147lb division is smoking hot right now & there a some beasts there that would have their fill of him quite easily. even when he fought Daniel Ponce De Leon at super feather weight he struggled for long periods. he just isnt that good. has no jab, foot work is really bad and all he throws is that left hook. his punch output is a joke! even if he makes 140 he gets beaten by Crawford, Matthysse, Peterson and Provodnikov. Quote:
Broner should fight Garcia, another fighter that is in limbo between 140 and 147.
I'd quite like to see Porter vs Khan, I think that would be a nice mix of styles. wouldnt be surprised to see khan cherry pick broner or robert guerrero to be honest. |
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A shame Paul smith couldn't pull off a shock but really that was never gonna happen. No idea what the game plan was, maybe get to last round and use up every bit of energy he had and try knock out ward. To be fair what ever plan he'd had wouldn't have worked because he was completly outclassed. Wonder if froch will fancy a rematch?
Anywhere else - No. |
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Vegas - Yes.
Anywhere else - No. |
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It would be quite amusing to see how Sky would try and spin it to justify the inevitable PPV. I've noticed them saying a couple of times how "the scorecards were close" in the first fight, conveniently ignoring that in reality it was boringly one sided.
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Mike Tyson is coming out of retirement .
I reckon he'd scare Tyson Fury to death
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Mike Tyson is coming out of retirement .
I reckon he'd scare Tyson Fury to death ![]() Stories of his 'gangsta' style thuggery? So the Tyson hype goes into overdrive yet again. Yawn. Overrated frontrunner who just about scrapes into the top ten or twelve all-time heavyweight greats but was certainly not the invincible monster (even at his best around late '87 - '88) that many of his fans believe. |
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Mike Tyson is coming out of retirement .
I reckon he'd scare Tyson Fury to death ![]() He was reported to have been given $250 Million deals to fight at The MGM and then a similar amount for a TV deal when he came out of prison but somehow he ended up in major debts it seemed! I wonder what happened to all that money then and they money that came his way before that too?! |
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What with?
Stories of his 'gangsta' style thuggery? So the Tyson hype goes into overdrive yet again. Yawn. Overrated frontrunner who just about scrapes into the top ten or twelve all-time heavyweight greats but was certainly not the invincible monster (even at his best around late '87 - '88) that many of his fans believe. Also heard that there are negotiations between Oscar De Hoya and Mayweather's people as he took Mayweather close last time (split decision ) ... I'd like to see them go at it again ,,, |
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I heard that Tyson was coming back to face James Toney and will go from there ....
Also heard that there are negotiations between Oscar De Hoya and Mayweather's people as he took Mayweather close last time (split decision ) ... I'd like to see them go at it again ,,, GGG is willing to fight Oscar De La Hoya or Mayweather or Froch Seems none of the big names are are very keen to face GGG who has been calling out all the main players for quite some time now. |
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There's potentially quite a few different good bouts on the horizon.
GGG is willing to fight Oscar De La Hoya or Mayweather or Froch Seems none of the big names are are very keen to face GGG who has been calling out all the main players for quite some time now. Who can blame them? The man is a beast! GG v Froch would be a war for the ages and although I believe Carl would lose he would go down with all guns blazing after a tremendous scrap. It would be a fitting end to a career where he has fought everybody of note in his weight class - a true old school style warrior. I would prefer GGG to stay where he is though and rack up those defences and then his star will continue to rise amongst the public.
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Mike Tyson is coming out of retirement .
I reckon he'd scare Tyson Fury to death ![]() He hasn't been in his prime since 1988 & hasn't been world class since the mid 90s. If he came back now, he would be the biggest laughing stock in boxing history. |
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Tyson is long gone, with particular emphasis on LONG.
He hasn't been in his prime since 1988 & hasn't been world class since the mid 90s. If he came back now, he would be the biggest laughing stock in boxing history. ![]() He was ko'd by the 'legendary' Kevin McBride ten years ago. How embarrassing would a preposterous comeback like this be for boxing? |
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It would be a fitting end to a career where he has fought everybody of note in his weight class - a true old school style warrior. I would prefer GGG to stay where he is though and rack up those defences and then his star will continue to rise amongst the public. ![]() |
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While you can only beat what's put in front of you the Middleweight division is weak though, full of blown up welters, drained supers and dodgy catch weight fights. The only real test is Canelo and that would only be at a catchweight atm (Cotto gets blown out IMO) If GGG is going to cement his place then he will have to go up to super. Aesthetically GGG vs Ward might not sound the best but it is a legacy fight, Froch would be the biggest pay of both their careers but the clock's ticking on that one.
It is a shame there is no real test for him at his natural poundage. Then again what great middleweights did Hagler fight? There is no more respected fighter around (apart from his whining about Ray which got old 25 years ago). His biggest bouts were against (admittedly phenomenal) blokes moving up - Duran (LW), Hearns (W/LM) and Leonard (W/LM). Whether he gets the fights you mentioned GGG is clearly an exceptional boxer - I think we can all agree on that.
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Very true.
It is a shame there is no real test for him at his natural poundage. Then again what great middleweights did Hagler fight? There is no more respected fighter around (apart from his whining about Ray which got old 25 years ago). His biggest bouts were against (admittedly phenomenal) blokes moving up - Duran (LW), Hearns (W/LM) and Leonard (W/LM). Whether he gets the fights you mentioned GGG is clearly an exceptional boxer - I think we can all agree on that. ![]() |
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You make very good points, and I agree (I would also throw Mugabi in there as an important fight), but what if the analogy is wrong, maybe GGG is not Hagler but Duran and Ward is his Leonard?
Food for thought certainly.
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