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Old 07-11-2015, 21:22
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Bit sly by ref Terry O Connor to not give Masher Dodd a standing count then, up on 2 judges scorecards, one by 4 rounds, only 1 min left of final round a straight call off of fight no count, harsh!

Rematch for sure needed
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Old 07-11-2015, 22:48
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what a permofnce by smith brutel
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Old 07-11-2015, 23:29
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Wow, little doubt in that one, brutal indeed. Rockys legs had gone, that stoppage was certainly justified!
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Old 10-11-2015, 01:00
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Why is Froch suddenly interested in fighting DeGale now after avoiding him all this time?
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Old 10-11-2015, 12:20
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Why is Froch suddenly interested in fighting DeGale now after avoiding him all this time?
Firstly I would exactly say Froch has avoided him. Deale become a world champion after Froch retired.

Now as for the comeback talk I think its two things.

Like Haye, Froch wants the media talking about him. Secondly a fight v Degale is a good payday for a fight he thinks he wins.

Personally I would be disappointed. If Froch is to come back I want him to fight GGG. Coming back and beating Degale for instance proves what? His expected to beat Degale.
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Old 10-11-2015, 18:46
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Firstly I would exactly say Froch has avoided him. Deale become a world champion after Froch retired.

Now as for the comeback talk I think its two things.

Like Haye, Froch wants the media talking about him. Secondly a fight v Degale is a good payday for a fight he thinks he wins.

Personally I would be disappointed. If Froch is to come back I want him to fight GGG. Coming back and beating Degale for instance proves what? His expected to beat Degale.
Yeah I would think he could still beat DeGale although it would take a monumental effort with so many brutal wars behind him.

As for GGG - World War III while it lasted - depending how much Carl has left would dictate if he made it past the mid rounds with his granite chin and indomitable will.

I think Gennady would win via late stoppage though.
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Old 10-11-2015, 20:38
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Froch would do DeGale within 5 rounds i reckon. Degale is a showboater currently ranked above his station.
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Old 10-11-2015, 21:37
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Froch would do DeGale within 5 rounds i reckon. Degale is a showboater currently ranked above his station.
I think froch would win but degale has speed and movement. His style causes problems for froch.
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:45
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I think froch would win but degale has speed and movement. His style causes problems for froch.
Never rated Degale, but he is much improved over his last half a dozen or so fights.
Agree with others that it does nothing for Froch's reputation or legacy to come back and beat him.

Seperate note, I don't see Fury in with a chance against Klitschko
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Old 12-11-2015, 20:19
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Never rated Degale, but he is much improved over his last half a dozen or so fights.
Agree with others that it does nothing for Froch's reputation or legacy to come back and beat him.

Seperate note, I don't see Fury in with a chance against Klitschko
I really like Fury as a boxer, he brings excitement and madness to the ring.

I'd say he has a boxers chance.

He certainly has the height and natural weight to cause Klitschko plenty of problems.

He also has that youthful folly and inner belief in himself and his abilities.

Whether that in itself is enough only time will tell.

One thing is for sure, it wont be a boring fight.
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Old 18-11-2015, 04:58
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I really like Fury as a boxer, he brings excitement and madness to the ring.

I'd say he has a boxers chance.

He certainly has the height and natural weight to cause Klitschko plenty of problems.

He also has that youthful folly and inner belief in himself and his abilities.

Whether that in itself is enough only time will tell.

One thing is for sure, it wont be a boring fight.
Definitely cannot wait for this fight. To me everytime I hear fury talking it just seems as though he's trying to convince himself he can win. Question is will he retire if he does lose to an old man?
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Old 21-11-2015, 16:54
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Definitely cannot wait for this fight. To me everytime I hear fury talking it just seems as though he's trying to convince himself he can win. Question is will he retire if he does lose to an old man?
Fury's always talking about how he is the most charismatic boxer since Ali but the only similarity he had during the build-up was overhyping himself to the point of hysteria like Ali did before he fought Liston. Hopefully same outcome in the ring. Nothing against Vladmir but he's had long enough. Will be betting on Tyson though I don't really expect him to win....
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Old 21-11-2015, 17:41
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Fury's always talking about how he is the most charismatic boxer since Ali but the only similarity he had during the build-up was overhyping himself to the point of hysteria like Ali did before he fought Liston. Hopefully same outcome in the ring. Nothing against Vladmir but he's had long enough. Will be betting on Tyson though I don't really expect him to win....
Do you think fury is underestimating Vlad? Whether people like him or not, he's been at the top for a long time and fury hasn't fought anyone even close to this level plus his chin is very suspect which I suppose is also reason why people like watching him, you don't know what will happen.
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Old 21-11-2015, 19:49
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Do you think fury is underestimating Vlad? Whether people like him or not, he's been at the top for a long time and fury hasn't fought anyone even close to this level plus his chin is very suspect which I suppose is also reason why people like watching him, you don't know what will happen.
I don't think Fury is underestimating Vlad at all. He's not that stupid despite the costume changes. What he says to the microphone and how he's actually behaving behind the scenes are two very different things. I think he is scared (in a good way) and that is motivating him to train harder and prepare better than he ever has. I just wonder if that will be enough to halt Vlad. Fury's not the most naturally talented boxer ever and it's one thing having your uncle in your corner to call strategy on Derek Chisora but I think you'd need an uncle like Roger Mayweather to call the shots against someone of Vlad's calibre.

I want Fury to win. Vlad looked to be slowing slightly against Jennings who was quite mobile and Fury can stick and move. But I think Vlad will still have way too much for him.
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Old 21-11-2015, 19:52
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Forgot to say, what a boxing card on today. Cotto- Canelo highlight for me. Pity I won't be able to see any of it live.....
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Old 22-11-2015, 11:20
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Glad Cotto lost, he can stop pretending to be a middleweight now.
Hope Alvarez/GGG can be made now.

Congrats Crolla.
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Old 22-11-2015, 17:09
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Glad Cotto lost, he can stop pretending to be a middleweight now.
Hope Alvarez/GGG can be made now.

Congrats Crolla.
I'm with you.

Cotto has been one of my favourite fighters of the last decade, but his MW title reign has been a farce.

Not once has he fought at the weight.

He should drop down to 154 and be done with it.
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Old 22-11-2015, 17:25
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Glad Cotto lost, he can stop pretending to be a middleweight now.
Hope Alvarez/GGG can be made now.

Congrats Crolla.
I like Cotto but that catchweight nonsense was tiring.

Ditto your other two points. But I don't see Alvarez going up and GGG should NOT go down so I don't know if the fight can be made. Crolla's story is inspiring.

Did anyone see the Abraham - Murray fight? Fair decision? Surely that's Murray's last world title challenge?
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Old 23-11-2015, 22:45
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Another hasbeen coming out of retirement - you cant get away with this crap in nearly every other sport.
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Old 24-11-2015, 10:35
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I like Cotto but that catchweight nonsense was tiring.

Ditto your other two points. But I don't see Alvarez going up and GGG should NOT go down so I don't know if the fight can be made. Crolla's story is inspiring.

Did anyone see the Abraham - Murray fight? Fair decision? Surely that's Murray's last world title challenge?
I think GGG will come down. Canelo holds all the cards. His the far bigger draw and Golovkin makes nowhere near the money he would make fighting Canelo against anyone else. Remember GGG is past 30 now so while he can still make decent money vs other fighters his running out of time for the big payoff.

It sux as the MW title should be fought at 160lbs but I just don’t see what choice GGG has if he wants that huge payday.

I dont see GGG going to 155 but maybe try and get 157-158.
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Old 24-11-2015, 11:07
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I think GGG will come down. Canelo holds all the cards. His the far bigger draw and Golovkin makes nowhere near the money he would make fighting Canelo against anyone else. Remember GGG is past 30 now so while he can still make decent money vs other fighters his running out of time for the big payoff.

It sux as the MW title should be fought at 160lbs but I just don’t see what choice GGG has if he wants that huge payday.

I dont see GGG going to 155 but maybe try and get 157-158.
Your points are valid and the money will probably make it happen, but the BIB is why I don't think he should try to cut weight (or increase it, for that matter) at this late stage after having been a natural middy for so long. He clearly has excelllent trainers who will do all they can to get him fit at that weight but at least some of his power is bound to be drained away. If he can cut and beat Canelo though, there can be no doubt about his greatness.
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Old 24-11-2015, 14:41
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Fury just can't keep his mouth closed can he? I think it's a veiled pop at Vladmir. More relevant is Carl froch's views on the fight.

"Fury's tactics should be to close the distance, get near to him, rough him up, try and bully him and stick the nut on him if he has to. He needs to make it a brawl."

I would have thought that would be the worse tactic to use but Carl's had one or two more fights than I have so maybe he's right.

Can't wait to see Haye fight again (sarcasm) I think he sniffs a last big payday if Tyson wins.....
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Old 24-11-2015, 17:15
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Fury just can't keep his mouth closed can he? I think it's a veiled pop at Vladmir. More relevant is Carl froch's views on the fight.

"Fury's tactics should be to close the distance, get near to him, rough him up, try and bully him and stick the nut on him if he has to. He needs to make it a brawl."

I would have thought that would be the worse tactic to use but Carl's had one or two more fights than I have so maybe he's right.

Can't wait to see Haye fight again (sarcasm) I think he sniffs a last big payday if Tyson wins.....
Haye, obviously couldn't make a career on the minor celeb merry go round and other business interests werent appearing or working out... Heard him today promoting his fight, he does it well, I'll give him that! But as someone else said earlier, there is no other sport where athletes past their peak and on the way down can come back and make back to the top like boxing...
As for Fury fight, i don't think I will be able to watch it, and I am undecided on whether I like him or dislike him, but I think he will be out of his depth against the strength and experience of Klitschko...
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Old 25-11-2015, 05:18
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I want to record the fury/klitschko fight but don't have landline. So ordering by remote is out. Can order online but can't record it although not sure if that applies to repeat viewings?
Heard what carl said about getting in close, surely thats playing right into klitschko's hands. Fury is quick on his feet for a big guy and has reach advantage so use it. His biggest problem is a glass jaw and if klitschko catches him it could be game over, should be interesting fight whatever happens.
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Old 25-11-2015, 10:03
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I want to record the fury/klitschko fight but don't have landline. So ordering by remote is out. Can order online but can't record it although not sure if that applies to repeat viewings?
Heard what carl said about getting in close, surely thats playing right into klitschko's hands. Fury is quick on his feet for a big guy and has reach advantage so use it. His biggest problem is a glass jaw and if klitschko catches him it could be game over, should be interesting fight whatever happens.
I think with Klitchko speed is required. I'm not convinced Fury has quick enough hands and also his lead left hangs low. I see him being open for right hands.
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