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Old 08-11-2010, 11:24
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I am glad Katie got through, I think she's great...but...

Unless the actual voting figures are published and it can be seen that TreyC got the lowest number of votes, then she should feel cheated and take it further. I don't think "we've run out of time" can be used an excuse. It's a disgrace. And Cheryl quite categorically stated that she wanted it to go to deadlock.


I think that when Cheryl was (surprisingly) asked to vote second, she panicked and said she would take it to deadlock. As people have pointed out, one contestant could been saved at this point by all three judges so there would be no need for deadlock.

But I think Cheryl had correctly guessed what the other judges would vote and had realised that her vote would have evened it out so it would have to go to deadlock.

Neither Cheryl nor Katie are to blame for this cock-up.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:26
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Cheryl is - she should have voted. That's what she is paid a million a series for!

I don't blame Katie at all - its not her fault she keeps getting saved. Cheryl however is another matter - she just doesn't want to be seen doing anything which might undermine her nation's sweetheart image.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:27
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Cheryl is - she should have voted. That's what she is paid a million a series for!

I don't blame Katie at all - its not her fault she keeps getting saved. Cheryl however is another matter - she just doesn't want to be seen doing anything which might undermine her nation's sweetheart image.
She was going to vote, she said she wanted it to go to deadlock. She just wasn't given the opportunity.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:28
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You can't vote to go to deadlock. You have to vote for a contestant.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:29
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somebody balled the whole thing up, who, I have no idea.

Needs sorting out.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:29
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You can't vote to go to deadlock. You have to vote for a contestant.
So she was going to even up the vote which would take it deadlock....don't know if you've not noticed, but the judges don't actually say who they're going to vote for, but the very fact they put it to deadlock means they've voted for the contestant with one vote.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:31
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So she was going to even up the vote which would take it deadlock....don't know if you've not noticed, but the judges don't actually say who they're going to vote for, but the very fact they put it to deadlock means they've voted for the contestant with one vote.
I do understand that, but the fact remains, you can't say I'm taking it to deadlock unless you are the last judge asked. It's the producers fault really, because Cheryl should have been last.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:32
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I do understand that, but the fact remains, you can't say I'm taking it to deadlock unless you are the last judge asked. It's the producers fault really, because Cheryl should have been last.
ummm...that's pretty much what I said.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:32
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Dermot is a fkkin idiot.

His fault. He should know that you go to Cheryl last and at least she would of have to have voted,
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:32
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She was going to vote, she said she wanted it to go to deadlock. She just wasn't given the opportunity.
She wanted to fix the vote, in other words cheat.

Dermot was correct in taking it to the majority from the voting judges.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:33
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She wanted to fix the vote, in other words cheat.

Dermot was correct in taking it to the majority from the voting judges.
Good lord! She didn't want to vote for either of her acts.
(Most of them don't you know).
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:34
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I think Cheryl had expected to be asked last and with a fair chance of it being 2 - 1 at that stage had decided to put it to deadlock so she woudn't so much be seen as the decisive factor in sending one of her acts home.

I think she did panic a bit when it suddenly came to her, which wasn't very good, but she did try to show what her intentions were.

They should either ask the judges randomly or having established a norm ( I know not absolutely every other time ) of asking a judge with both acts last they should keep to that.

It was really just a general cock-up with the order asked, Cheryl's reaction and the time thing rather than a conspiracy.

Katie of course is certainly not to be blamed. It's like booing a footballer that folk don't think should be picked, it's not their fault.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:35
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Cheryl did screw up here. She is paid to be a judge, even if it is her acts. I know she favours Katie so she should have stuck to that. However she was surprised to be 2nd in terms of voting order.She didn't expect it but she should have voted regardless
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:35
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Louis easily could have taken it to deadlock had Cheryl voted either way (Simon= Katie, Cheryl=Katie/Treyc, Dannii = Treyc, Louis = I choose to tie it and let the public decide). Either way Cheryl voted, I sense that Louis would have sent it to the vote. He did wail about it being hard to decide.

Although I guess if he really wanted to, he could have also abstained and left it at a tie, forcing one that way.

But, however you slice it, the one certain thing is that it is fairly obvious that Cheryl didn't think quickly or clearly about it and has caused a bit of a sh*tstorm. Or...she was just following the script
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:35
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I think Cheryl had expected to be asked last and with a fair chance of it being 2 - 1 at that stage had decided to put it to deadlock so she woudn't so much be seen as the decisive factor in sending one of her acts home.

I think she did panic a bit when it suddenly came to her, which wasn't very good, but she did try to show what her intentions were.

They should either ask the judges randomly or having established a norm ( I know not absolutely every other time ) of asking a judge with both acts last they should keep to that.

It was really just a general cock-up with the order asked, Cheryl's reaction and the time thing rather than a conspiracy.

Katie of course is certainly not to be blamed. It's like booing a footballer that folk don't think should be picked, it's not their fault.
Agree, totally. As I said, I'm glad Katie got through, I just wish it could be proven that it was in a fair manner (ie, that TreyC actually polled lowest in the viewer vote).
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:36
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You can't vote to go to deadlock. You have to vote for a contestant.
And if she'd been able to vote last she would have voted for a contestant. OK, a vote that would have sent it to deadlock but that's her choice and what she wanted the chance to do.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:36
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Good lord! She didn't want to vote for either of her acts.
(Most of them don't you know).
Most of them do because that is what they are paid to do.

She didn't so lost her vote, end of story.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:36
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By effectively NOT voting she voted for Katie to stay. That would have been her preference.

I think if Louie has said Katie to go, Sheerrrlllyy would have piped up for deadlock, cause it was Tracy she did not want in the comp.

CHEAT
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:38
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Oh grow up!

Cheryl should have been asked last and she wasn't. End of.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:40
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Dermot is a fkkin idiot.

His fault. He should know that you go to Cheryl last and at least she would of have to have voted,
It is you that is the 'fkkin idiot' if you believe Dermot makes the decisions on what to do.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:42
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"She panicked, she panicked. Poor wittle Cheryl"

The X Factor is 100% planned to an inch of it's life. Do you really think Dermot just ballsed up by going to her second. No. He was told to.

It just cannot be coincidence that the first time the host has "accidentally" gone to the judge whose 2 acts are up for the chop, it just happened to be Princess Cheryl. And why did none of the other judges, or a stage-hand or producer or whatever scream into Dermot's ear to leave Cheryl's choice to the end like they have aaaaalways done?!

Fix. Don't know WHY they keep this girl in, inadvertedly putting her through hell without her realising with all this bad press. Maybe she's sold her soul to the devil (Cowell) meaning he gets an 80% cut of any salaries from record contracts (unlikely!) to reality tv shows.

It can't be because they want to release her, because it would be such a waste of money seeing as a) She is hated and b) She's got a shhhhhhhiiiiiiiite voice
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:47
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think she was making a big time statement about Wagner being crap.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:47
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"She panicked, she panicked. Poor wittle Cheryl" /SNIP....
Have you got a little Cheryl doll that you stick pins in?
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:51
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think she was making a big time statement about Wagner being crap.
Well if that is the case, I would suggest that she has failed in that regard. Because NO ONE is relating any of this to Wagner, welll except you. If anything, she has strengthened his popularity.

Honestly, I just think she is a bit dim. I don't mind her but she isn't the sharpest crayon in the box.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:20
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Have you got a little Cheryl doll that you stick pins in?
Well, duh! Of course I do! Fool...
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