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Old 12-11-2010, 19:37
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http://www.mtv.co.uk/artists/cheryl-...a-simon-cowell

Looks like the job will be going to Nicole then...
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:38
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I don't think she was ever a serious contender for the role; I'm pretty sure all the press about it has been more to get people talking than anything.
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:39
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Oh, that's a shame

I was hoping she would **** off and never grace our shores again.
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:47
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What happened on Sunday is exactly what FOX need to happen on XF US. If Nicole joins the US panel, the smart money is that she'll be playing the role of "Cheryl". Also, the idea that they're concerned about hiring Cheryl because she's not known is laughable when they then suggest Nicole Scherzinger who is going to be no more of a draw than Cheryl. If they go with Nicole then they're going down the Cheryl route. Taking a C Lister and trying to launch her as an A List star through judging The X Factor.

There are other reasons why it doesn't make sense. But her apparent failure to make a decision on Sunday isn't one of them. Does anyone really believe that the producers were disappointed that she didn't?!
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:50
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What happened on Sunday is exactly what FOX need to happen on XF US. If Nicole joins the US panel, the smart money is that she'll be playing the role of "Cheryl". Also, the idea that they're concerned about hiring Cheryl because she's not known is laughable when they then suggest Nicole Scherzinger who is going to be no more of a draw than Cheryl. If they go with Nicole then they're going down the Cheryl route. Taking a C Lister and trying to launch her as an A List star through judging The X Factor.

There are other reasons why it doesn't make sense. But her apparent failure to make a decision on Sunday isn't one of them. Does anyone really believe that the producers were disappointed that she didn't?!


Especially after doing everything they could to ensure that she didn't!
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:52
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What happened on Sunday is exactly what FOX need to happen on XF US. If Nicole joins the US panel, the smart money is that she'll be playing the role of "Cheryl". Also, the idea that they're concerned about hiring Cheryl because she's not known is laughable when they then suggest Nicole Scherzinger who is going to be no more of a draw than Cheryl. If they go with Nicole then they're going down the Cheryl route. Taking a C Lister and trying to launch her as an A List star through judging The X Factor.

There are other reasons why it doesn't make sense. But her apparent failure to make a decision on Sunday isn't one of them. Does anyone really believe that the producers were disappointed that she didn't?!
yeah but let's be honest cheryl cole is a non-entity stateside, people will at least know who nicole is.
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:56
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taken from the Daily Star........
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:57
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Well she is doing everything she can to get noticed stateside,she's in will.I.ams new video, not sure if she's singing on the track though, I read it was cameo unless anyone knows different??
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Old 12-11-2010, 19:59
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Over here in the US, Nicole is basically in the same role as Cheryl.

She's the "star" of a girl group, but often disliked for a variety of reasons (for Nicole, it's her apparent snobbiness and "holier than thou" attitude). Nicole however, wasn't successful with her launch of a solo career despite being more talented than Cheryl.

I personally feel like bringing both in would be nice. Cheryl is actually fairly well known here, due to her topping FHM's Hot 100 two years in a row, Perez Hilton's love with her, and the associations people make with Victoria Beckham. Also, a surprising fact is that a lot of people watch the X factor on youtube here as well.

To say that she's a "non entity" is simply not true.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:00
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Over here in the US, Nicole is basically in the same role as Cheryl.

She's the "star" of a girl group, but often disliked for a variety of reasons (for Nicole, it's her apparent snobbiness and "holier than thou" attitude). Nicole however, wasn't successful with her launch of a solo career despite being more talented than Cheryl.

I personally feel like bringing both in would be nice. Cheryl is actually fairly well known here, due to her topping FHM's Hot 100 two years in a row, Perez Hilton's love with her, and the associations people make with Victoria Beckham. Also, a surprising fact is that a lot of people watch the X factor on youtube here as well.

To say that she's a "non entity" is simply not true.
Nicole and Cheryl came from the same T.V show aswell......
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:03
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yeah but let's be honest cheryl cole is a non-entity stateside, people will at least know who nicole is.
Nicole is pretty much a US equivalent of Alesha Dixon before she joined SCD as a judge. She was in a girlband who had some brief success, had a solo career that wasn't going anywhere and won DWTS.

It doesn't really matter whether or not they know who she is at the level Nicole is at. She's not big enough that she's going to be an automatic draw for viewers and that's all that matters when hiring "names". She's already judging a minor talent show on NBC and nobody in America really cares. She was totally overshadowed by Ben Folds on that show.

Now, I think Nicole may well get it and if she can do as well as she did on XF UK and Simon can hype her as well as he did here, then it could work. I also think it's far more practical to hire Nicole to the US show and keep Cheryl on the UK show. But I don't think Nicole is being hired because Americans know who she is.

Personally, I'd go for Simon Cowell, Katy Perry, Nicole Scherzinger and Scooter Braun (he's 30 but now a big name behind the scenes as he manages Justin Bieber).

Again, lets remember that to the American public, people like Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson and Piers Morgan were largely unknown.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:07
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Cheryl joining the X-Factor US will have as much credit as Piers being a judge on America's Got Talent so its alright.

Piers was unheard of in the US before America's Got Talent plus Cheryl is already a little bit familiar over there without even debuting yet.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:13
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Nicole is pretty much a US equivalent of Alesha Dixon before she joined SCD as a judge. She was in a girlband who had some brief success, had a solo career that wasn't going anywhere and won DWTS.

It doesn't really matter whether or not they know who she is at the level Nicole is at. She's not big enough that she's going to be an automatic draw for viewers and that's all that matters when hiring "names". She's already judging a minor talent show on NBC and nobody in America really cares. She was totally overshadowed by Ben Folds on that show.

Now, I think Nicole may well get it and if she can do as well as she did on XF UK and Simon can hype her as well as he did here, then it could work.
Agree with you on all this. Nicole has virtually no name recognition here. She is most likely to be known as "the one in the Pussycat Dolls" or "the one on DWTS." I work in TV entertainment and every time I've mentioned her by name to colleagues they have needed prompting to make the connection.

The point that the US X Factor could do for her what the UK X Factor has done for Cheryl is a good one.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:16
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I never thought that Cheryl was a good fit for American X factor anyway. I also remain unconvinced that she wants to do it that badly.

Nicole was great on our X Factor I see no reason why she wouldnt do well.

To be honest, I'd rather see American X Factor judged by American artists (Simon aside, he's big over there because of Idol, so fair enough he is on the panel) rather than any British artists.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:21
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The yanks dont really like weak willed, lily livered people who cant make decisions that they are paid a fortune to make, I should imagine Sundays debacle put any chance of Biffa doing xfactor stateside to bed, shame really, we wouldnt have had to put up with her fake pohotoshopped head on our screens.

Nicole on the other hand is a real women, I would love to see her on UK xfactor replacing Biffa.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:21
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Delighted! If true, it will bring her down a peg or two...
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:21
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I never thought that Cheryl was a good fit for American X factor anyway. I also remain unconvinced that she wants to do it that badly.
I agree with you Lizzy; I think her real "US dream" is a recording contract here and evidently that is on the cards. Doing both series would amount to a full-time talent show career and based on her comments to Piers Morgan I don't see her committing to that without a lot of reservations.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:23
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The yanks dont really like weak willed, lily livered people who cant make decisions that they are paid a fortune to make.
You might want to read up on the most successful American politicians.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:27
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yeah but let's be honest cheryl cole is a non-entity stateside, people will at least know who nicole is.
Indeed.

There are people in the UK who think Cheryl and Girls Aloud are huge internationally.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:29
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Indeed.

There are people in the UK who think Cheryl and Girls Aloud are huge internationally.
there are people who think the PCD are huge internationally when they really aren't all that its ridiculous to say that Cheryl is virtually unknown over there though
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:31
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I agree with you Lizzy; I think her real "US dream" is a recording contract here and evidently that is on the cards. Doing both series would amount to a full-time talent show career and based on her comments to Piers Morgan I don't see her committing to that without a lot of reservations.
I agree, I don't think she wants to do X Factor USA
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:35
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I will laugh that if after all of this speculation over whether Cheryl will do US XF or not, Fox turn around and say that Dannii has been given the job.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:40
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To be honest aaaa I wasn't really bothered about any job if it's outside of England and not near Newwcastle sooo if I don't get it aaa don't care. Plus them American lads are all up themselves aaaa prefer London boys who know how to treat a girl right.......
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:50
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Cheryl Cole is not known in the U.S. at the level she would need to be in order to justify hiring her for a fall, primetime TV series that would face some stiff competition in the ratings. Sure, there are a very small group of reality show aficionados who watch UK X-Factor on Youtube, but comparatively that is very, very small potatoes in a big market.

Nicole Scherzinger is not much better. Of all the people in the entertainment industry in the U.S., she's one of the few worthy of that type of showcase? Really? Whatever. They are going to have to really balance that out with some serious gravitas via the other members of the panel because Nicole Scherzinger is a really small fish.
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Old 12-11-2010, 20:53
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At least the Yanks would be able to understand Dannii
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