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Old 13-11-2010, 02:33
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I can't listen to his music anymore since I do not agree about sleepovers etc,payments of money to settle cases.Sorry if that's bigoted but I apply those rules to any person I know since I would not find that behaviour acceptable.It's my opinion. I think what's the difference when compared to Gary Glitter and Peter Townsend.Yes Glitter was convicted.Townsend was not convicted and said it was for "research".Everyone can use upbringing as a reason for doing something;there's always a reason why someone commits an an unsavoury act but it doesn't make it right.No I will not listen to their music anymore.
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Old 13-11-2010, 02:38
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You're about 7 years too late.
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Old 13-11-2010, 07:27
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I can't listen to his music anymore since I do not agree about sleepovers etc,payments of money to settle cases.Sorry if that's bigoted but I apply those rules to any person I know since I would not find that behaviour acceptable.It's my opinion. I think what's the difference when compared to Gary Glitter and Peter Townsend.Yes Glitter was convicted.Townsend was not convicted and said it was for "research".Everyone can use upbringing as a reason for doing something;there's always a reason why someone commits an an unsavoury act but it doesn't make it right.No I will not listen to their music anymore.
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well said! i wish other fans would be so balanced. ive said all along (in the previous thread about this) that the behaviour that isnt being disputed, is not acceptable by anyone.
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Old 13-11-2010, 08:12
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I never understand why it was always lads, never girls. If he loved children so bloody much (:yawn then why didn't he have girls over?
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Old 13-11-2010, 10:06
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I don't why this is coming up now but bullshit that, personally I do think he may have been guilty but I don't know, because I wasn't there. The music he made in my opinion was awesome. and when I think music's awesome, I tend to listen to it frequently.
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Old 13-11-2010, 10:07
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It's a loada crap tbh, anyone in their right mind knows MJ wasn't involved in any of 'that stuff'.
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Old 13-11-2010, 10:11
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I never understand why it was always lads, never girls. If he loved children so bloody much (:yawn then why didn't he have girls over?
Girls did sleep over but the media never presented that.
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Old 13-11-2010, 10:26
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This is totally irrelevant.
Didn't you hear about this before?

From seeing him, i genuinely believe that because he had no childhood, he never really grew up. Therefore he seeked younger friendship, and the whole building of neverland, and that he payed them people off to just get rid.
However, that's my opinion.

I wouldn't stop listening to his music though, No one knows the truth.
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Old 13-11-2010, 11:02
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I can't listen to his music anymore since I do not agree about sleepovers etc,payments of money to settle cases.Sorry if that's bigoted but I apply those rules to any person I know since I would not find that behaviour acceptable.It's my opinion. I think what's the difference when compared to Gary Glitter and Peter Townsend.Yes Glitter was convicted.Townsend was not convicted and said it was for "research".Everyone can use upbringing as a reason for doing something;there's always a reason why someone commits an an unsavoury act but it doesn't make it right.No I will not listen to their music anymore.
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Well you go to his grave and tell him that if your so bothered
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Old 13-11-2010, 11:08
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Am I bovvered about what he got up to in his personal life? (that's if it's even true) on a professional level, his songs are awesome and purely for that reason I still listen to him.. and will continue to do so.
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Old 13-11-2010, 12:01
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The truth is, NOBODY knows what really went on. People can fool themselves thinking that they know MJ personally and know that he did not do anything if it makes them feel better!

We can only going along with what the authorities decided....that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute him for anything.
That does NOT mean he was proven innocent (OR guilty!).
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Old 13-11-2010, 12:09
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I never understand why it was always lads, never girls. If he loved children so bloody much (:yawn then why didn't he have girls over?
He had girls over as well as boys,but surprise surprise this didn't grab the headlines as much as having boys sleep over.
It's already been talked about on various cases,Michael would sleep on the floor and the children would have his bed. All the time with parents permission. Nothing seedy in it at all.
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Old 13-11-2010, 12:55
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Girls did sleep over but the media never presented that.
Ah okay, then my apologies. I didn't really follow the whole MJ thing much and was a bit too young at the time.
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Old 13-11-2010, 13:10
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From seeing him, i genuinely believe that because he had no childhood, he never really grew up. Therefore he seeked younger friendship, and the whole building of neverland, and that he payed them people off to just get rid. However, that's my opinion.
That is essentially what came out in court. He surrounded himself with people of a much younger age group, but on occasion he was found to have conversed and acted as though they were adults, talking mostly about masturbation, thus his behaviour was deemed inappropriate.

There is compelling evidence that Jackson was subject to extortion by two of the fathers who threatened to take him to court. One plaintiff is recorded on tape promising not to bring litigation if Jackson paid him a large sum of money.

MJ was tried and acquitted. People tend to disregard the verdict, mumbling "no smoke without fire" instead. Yet if they bothered to examine the facts of the case, they would discover the verdict was, on balance, the correct one.

In a nutshell, Jackson was one messed up individual who was found not guilty of sexual abuse, but was found to have acted improperly by mixing with minors.
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Old 13-11-2010, 14:14
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That is essentially what came out in court. He surrounded himself with people of a much younger age group, but on occasion he was found to have conversed and acted as though they were adults, talking mostly about masturbation, thus his behaviour was deemed inappropriate.

There is compelling evidence that Jackson was subject to extortion by two of the fathers who threatened to take him to court. One plaintiff is recorded on tape promising not to bring litigation if Jackson paid him a large sum of money.

MJ was tried and acquitted. People tend to disregard the verdict, mumbling "no smoke without fire" instead. Yet if they bothered to examine the facts of the case, they would discover the verdict was, on balance, the correct one.

In a nutshell, Jackson was one messed up individual who was found not guilty of sexual abuse, but was found to have acted improperly by mixing with minors.
The whole masterbation convo never happened. This was proved in court. It was found to be a conversation that the boys had with their grandma.(it went something along the lines of if a man didn't masterbate,it made them rapists).
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Old 13-11-2010, 14:28
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People always say that if he was innocent, then why did he pay them off. But then the counter argument would be if the parent's child was sexually assaulted, why did they not go for justice over the cash? Surely knowing that the person will be free to do the same thing again to others is cause enough to seek justice.
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Old 13-11-2010, 14:33
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People always say that if he was innocent, then why did he pay them off. But then the counter argument would be if the parent's child was sexually assaulted, why did they not go for justice over the cash? Surely knowing that the person will be free to do the same thing again to others is cause enough to seek justice.
Exactly
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Old 13-11-2010, 14:49
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If he really was a child abuser, why only abuse two people? I know that people say he paid off more, but why haven't they come forward now? They could go to the papers now if they wanted. Also, I'm not a parent but I'm sure if I was and my child was abused no amount of money would make me not want to bring them to court.
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Old 14-11-2010, 09:34
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He had girls over as well as boys,but surprise surprise this didn't grab the headlines as much as having boys sleep over.
It's already been talked about on various cases,Michael would sleep on the floor and the children would have his bed. All the time with parents permission. Nothing seedy in it at all.
he had girls as well as boys? oh well that makes it perfectly ok then! it doesnt look worse at all that a supposed hetrosexual middle aged male sleeps in the same room as children!

jeez...
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