I actually quite enjoyed the dance. What really annoyed me was again the inconsistency of Len! Why didn't he go off on one about faffing around like he normally does? It seems unfair on the other contestants.
An awful lot of faffing about?
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There's no doubt about it - the faffing is put in by the professionals to hide their celeb's failings. The worst offender is definitely Vincent, because Face-lift-ity is so poor. If the judges got tough on lifts then they should also nail this - once and for all.
After all, we're only asking them to dance for 90 seconds!
After all, we're only asking them to dance for 90 seconds!
Originally Posted by ElectraPalatine:
“Maybe, but there's just too much. I think the stairs are some of the problem. Just takes so long to get down them”
“Maybe, but there's just too much. I think the stairs are some of the problem. Just takes so long to get down them”
Those stairs have never been used as much as they have this year, the reason being the couples are not introduced onto the dance floor anymore because they have moved Tess' room.
Originally Posted by *Laura*:
“When I think back to previous series and the amount of "good" couples who came unstuck with the amount of turns in the VW it makes me said when this year's contestants are getting away with so little content.
My favourite ever VW was Camilla and Ray's and I would love to see how many turns they did in comparison to Patsy. .”
“When I think back to previous series and the amount of "good" couples who came unstuck with the amount of turns in the VW it makes me said when this year's contestants are getting away with so little content.
My favourite ever VW was Camilla and Ray's and I would love to see how many turns they did in comparison to Patsy. .”
I agree, some of the pros are making a mockery of the dances and trying to con the judges and public. That's why Kara and Artem's, and Scott and Natalie's dances were such a refreshing change with such great content .
Originally Posted by lynwood3:
“What I want to know is.....is it voluntary faffing on the part of the professionals?.........is it being tolerated because the celebs are, for the most part, below standard this year, or is it the producers idea of 'entertainment' since we might get bored with actual dancing?”
“What I want to know is.....is it voluntary faffing on the part of the professionals?.........is it being tolerated because the celebs are, for the most part, below standard this year, or is it the producers idea of 'entertainment' since we might get bored with actual dancing?”
Originally Posted by Ceroc-ker:
“There's no doubt about it - the faffing is put in by the professionals to hide their celeb's failings. The worst offender is definitely Vincent, because Face-lift-ity is so poor. If the judges got tough on lifts then they should also nail this - once and for all.
After all, we're only asking them to dance for 90 seconds!”
“There's no doubt about it - the faffing is put in by the professionals to hide their celeb's failings. The worst offender is definitely Vincent, because Face-lift-ity is so poor. If the judges got tough on lifts then they should also nail this - once and for all.
After all, we're only asking them to dance for 90 seconds!”
I think it's a bit of both.
IMO, SCD has never recovered from what happened when John Sergeant was there, and the producers have aimed it towards "entertainment" more than ever this year.
Then the pros take advantage of the new laxness to put in lots of non-dance "performance" to distract from the deficiencies in their celeb partner's dancing.
The couples who can dance well put in some too, fearing to be insufficiently "entertaining".
Then the excuses are made. That faffing is ok so long as it adds to the story, for example. Sure, and if they just went out and acted, that would add even more to the story; but there'd be no dancing left.
Originally Posted by lynwood3:
“What I want to know is.....is it voluntary faffing on the part of the professionals?.........is it being tolerated because the celebs are, for the most part, below standard this year, or is it the producers idea of 'entertainment' since we might get bored with actual dancing?”
“What I want to know is.....is it voluntary faffing on the part of the professionals?.........is it being tolerated because the celebs are, for the most part, below standard this year, or is it the producers idea of 'entertainment' since we might get bored with actual dancing?”
I think that it is the latter, the producers are encouraging this (hence the lack of criticism from the judges).
It's a definite move towards showdance and comedy sketch. Quite deliberate. We've had lifts, we've had props. We've had never a word about time spent in hold.
It's designed to be less about dance and more about dance-tertainment.
It's designed to be less about dance and more about dance-tertainment.
What amazes me is that the judges - especially Len - seem to have done an about-turn on the subject. Not only did they not complain, they praised the acts (I prefer to think of them as acts rather than dances). So now suddenly lifts which were okay up until last night are a no-no, and faffing around with props which were a no-no until last night are not only okay but great performances. Can we not leave Hollywood to the Americans who that sort of thing best, and just stick to dancing?
Originally Posted by Yoggi:
“Sprucing things up can be fun, but I found this VW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAqHtO4Z9Q to be absolutely charming, and very interesting to watch, despite the celebrity not being completely top notch, or it not involving lots of ornamentation. (Hint, it's an Anton masterpiece.)”
“Sprucing things up can be fun, but I found this VW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYAqHtO4Z9Q to be absolutely charming, and very interesting to watch, despite the celebrity not being completely top notch, or it not involving lots of ornamentation. (Hint, it's an Anton masterpiece.)”
What a a good post. Yes, that illustrates the huge difference between last and this year's VWs. Even if you put more ornamentation into that VW, you'd still have a lot more continuous VW than we've had on this series.
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