Going by Len's bizarre scoring system, if he gave Scott a nine for that pants of a rhumba last week Matt should have scored eleven!

I was thinking more in terms of the producers really. In terms of giving out 10s, outside of occasional Bruno aberrations, the judges don't start giving out 10s any earlier than they did, and of the three dances he's done since the "10 watershed", two were marred by a wardrobe malfunction, and being the rumba. So he was unlikely to get them. I guess giving them for the Viennese Waltz the week after loading them on Scott would have made it look like an "easy dance" and everyone knows spinning round endlessly is veh veh hard. I'm sure they'll come (he might get one this week if he has an American Smooth - maybe not for a samba), but the constant pointing it out does seem to be making him the underdog to a certain degree.

I just think it's really obvious he's getting one at some point so it shouldn't be an issue. Personally I think it's more intriguing when/if they'll ever lob one Pamela's way. I can't see any of the others ever doing anything to warrant one, but who can say? Patsy's and Gavin's scores certainly seem to be headed that way, but I think that might just be to justify their staying as long as they are.

Much as I like Gavin and Patsy, I just can't see them getting tens can you?!

I can see where you are coming from now about Matt (though I still can't really agree with this conspiracy-ish take).

Everyone thought Austin will do well with his AS but it was quite a disappointment. So I don't think getting tens in that dance is a given for Matt. I do think he might get tens (though maybe not as many as Scott's OTT scores) for his jive and paso, both he did with Zoe Salmon in Blue Peter and they won the amateur ballroom dance competition after just five days of training.

Going back to Scott vw, I certainly thought it was a perfect moment dance.

But, I distinctly remember Craig on itt the following week saying he could only give then a 9 because he made a mistake that only Craig could see because the cauldron was on the other judges view path. Which not necessarily doesn't make him less deserving on a 39 considering it was a magical moment even for someone like me that can't warm to him.

I wonder if they will show the training footage of him with Lilia and Darren on ITT

The whole zombie thing just killed it for me. Narrowly I see VW as a romantic dance, and can't picture a Frankenstein-like figure dancing with a witchy woman. Perhaps that coloured my perception of that VW, it might just be really good. I MUST force myself to watch it again sometime...

I like Matt but he hasn't had 10s yet because he hasn't deserved them

I do find it interesting though that all the hooha about his unfair previous dance gymnastic training advantage has died down now that Kara and Scott are consistently out scoring him

They certainly haven't shown any about Pamela's training with bruno, which in my opinion is more serious as he is giving her scores which could determine her place in the competition.

Imagine the hoo-ha that would have generated!

FIxed! Not fair! Previous training! Unfair advantage! etc. etc. ad nausem.

I think if Gavin makes it close to the end, and lands the Viennese Waltz, he might scrape one from someone going barmy. Patsy I doubt it.

And by the final they'll be throwing 10s at Matt like sweets, as they will Scott and Kara (even more so than they are already). It might be interesting if jive is Matt's best Latin to see duelling male jives in the final. Heck, we haven't even seen Kara's yet. I guess far better than three jives than three foxtrotzzzzzzzzzz...

Matt is an experienced dancer, so has been good from the start.

Perhaps they're withholding 10's to manufacture some sort of "journey"?

I agree they should show it.....they already showed Kara with Ramps (during the reveal show) and she lost a weeks training because of it........I am all for a level playing field myself.

I agree. Though Rachel did a beautiful foxtrot, her boring personality plus the sedate nature of the foxtrot was really sleep inducing at the final!

I agree with the bold bit. But I would not say that Scott has consistently outscored Matt. Not in the rumba, although yes in the vw.

Please, no! I can just about cope with one jive on one single show, three?
Not that three foxtrottes will make much happier.

I thought Kara deserved 10 for her AT, but not for the Paso. There was something missing in her Paso and although it had some fabulous moves, some of the transitions weren't that smooth. 9 yes, 10 no.

I haven't begrudged any of Scott's 10 and I think the reason Matt hasn't had a 10 yet is that the occasional mistake he makes or problem he has, is sometimes clear even to a non-dancer like me.

Kara and Matt have natural dancing ability and it shows in their lines, but sometimes they are lacking in performance. Scott has to try harder to get results and some how he manages to produce a better performance overall.

All three are fabulous to watch and I wouldn't mind any of them winning.

Pamela is still number 4 for me, but I think that's as high as she will get now.

I'm not sure any of them has earned a 10 yet (my opinion!), except Kara for her AT.

But I'm supporting Matt and I'm also quite pleased that he's having to struggle a bit. Partly because he has some dance experience, so it shows that the new style is difficult for him and that the competition is fair.

Also because I really loved his cha cha in the opening show and took to him, but I worried a little in case he turned out to be one of those contestants who comes top of the leader board every week and everyone gets bored and fed up (like Ricky Whittle). It's not as fun supporting people like that. I'm not so fussed about all this "journey" cobblers, but I do like to see someone genuinely challenged by both the dancing and the competition from the other contestants.

He reminds me of Rachel Stevens - naturally very gifted, but taking a while to really relax into dancing and shine. Hope he makes it to the final.

Thumbs won't be as much of an issue with the jive...lol