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Hope you are reading this Graham. After reading re Granada postcode being able to record ITVHD and BBC1HD etc. I decided to reset my box. I have the Event on series link on Channel 4 and decided I would like to record Celebrity get me out of here on ITVHD as you know this is one channel you can't get when you record Channel 4. Anyway I went to record it in the schedule and it said conflict and gave me ITVHD channel 0965 as an alternative. I set this up and it is due to record on Friday. I have this morning done a test and set a programme on Channel 4 and then ITVHD to record and it gave me again the option of 0965 ITVHD which I selected. Both of these programmes recorded. Marina |
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Assuming you have the Foxsat-hdr with 1 cable and the loop Channel 4 and ITV1-HD Crystal Palace are recordable together if you have a postcode that gives you the Crystal Palace variant. Channel 4 is a low band horizontal channel. Using 1 cable you can record any pair from the following list (the itv 1 options depend on your postcode) Code:
104 Channel 4 125 More4 +1 300 Film4 301 Film4 +1 974 Channel 4 750 RTE Radio 1 751 RTE Radio 2fm 752 RTE Radio Lyric FM 753 RTE Raidio na Gaeltacta 102 BBC Two 105 Channel 5 106 BBC Three 600 CBBC 950 BBC 1 London 951 BBC 1 CI 954 BBC 1 East (W) 965 BBC 1 West 968 BBC 2 England 102 BBC 2 107 BBC Four 601 CBeebies 705 BBC Radio 5 Live 706 BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra 959 BBC 1 S East 955 BBC 1 N West 960 BBC 1 Scotland 970 BBC 2 SCOTLAND 103 ITV 1 Border England 103 ITV 1 Central East 103 ITV 1 Thames Valley 103 ITV 1 Wales 103 ITV 1 West 103 ITV 1 West Country South 118 ITV4 + 1 119 ITV 1 HD (Crystal Palace) 114 ITV2 +1 103 ITV 1 Anglia South 103 ITV 1 Border Scotland 103 ITV 1 Meridian South 103 ITV 1 Tyne Tees North 103 ITV 1 Yorkshire West 139 horror CH+1 514 Clubland 786 BFBS Radio 807 Jewelery Maker 141 BET + 1 210 CNBC 136 CBS Reality +1 811 Thane Direct 202 S4C2 809 JML 400 Wedding TV 405 Food Network 406 Food Network + 1 140 BET (Black Entertainment TV) 143 Men & Movies 986 Teletext (Watch Only) 999 Freesat Info 509 Zing TV 206 Russia Today 402 INFORMATION TV 205 France 24 690 Inspiration TV 694 God Channel 851 Netplay TV There is no Freesat channel 0965 (965 is BBC 1 West). All freesat local channel numbers are 3 digits between 101 and 999. The only way to get a 4 digit channel number is the arbitary one assigned using non-freesat mode |
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Confused
Assuming you have the Foxsat-hdr with 1 cable and the loop Channel 4 and ITV1-HD Crystal Palace are recordable together if you have a postcode that gives you the Crystal Palace variant. Channel 4 is a low band horizontal channel. Using 1 cable you can record any pair from the following list (the itv 1 options depend on your postcode) Code:
104 Channel 4 125 More4 +1 300 Film4 301 Film4 +1 974 Channel 4 750 RTE Radio 1 751 RTE Radio 2fm 752 RTE Radio Lyric FM 753 RTE Raidio na Gaeltacta 102 BBC Two 105 Channel 5 106 BBC Three 600 CBBC 950 BBC 1 London 951 BBC 1 CI 954 BBC 1 East (W) 965 BBC 1 West 968 BBC 2 England 102 BBC 2 107 BBC Four 601 CBeebies 705 BBC Radio 5 Live 706 BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra 959 BBC 1 S East 955 BBC 1 N West 960 BBC 1 Scotland 970 BBC 2 SCOTLAND 103 ITV 1 Border England 103 ITV 1 Central East 103 ITV 1 Thames Valley 103 ITV 1 Wales 103 ITV 1 West 103 ITV 1 West Country South 118 ITV4 + 1 119 ITV 1 HD (Crystal Palace) 114 ITV2 +1 103 ITV 1 Anglia South 103 ITV 1 Border Scotland 103 ITV 1 Meridian South 103 ITV 1 Tyne Tees North 103 ITV 1 Yorkshire West 139 horror CH+1 514 Clubland 786 BFBS Radio 807 Jewelery Maker 141 BET + 1 210 CNBC 136 CBS Reality +1 811 Thane Direct 202 S4C2 809 JML 400 Wedding TV 405 Food Network 406 Food Network + 1 140 BET (Black Entertainment TV) 143 Men & Movies 986 Teletext (Watch Only) 999 Freesat Info 509 Zing TV 206 Russia Today 402 INFORMATION TV 205 France 24 690 Inspiration TV 694 God Channel 851 Netplay TV There is no Freesat channel 0965 (965 is BBC 1 West). All freesat local channel numbers are 3 digits between 101 and 999. The only way to get a 4 digit channel number is the arbitary one assigned using non-freesat mode The postcode used was M1 number which is granada. I can view BBCHD & 1 and also view ITV HD. Marina |
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When I record channel 4 none of the ITV 1 channels are available to view. As I said when I tried to record whilst channel 4 was scheduled to record it gave me the option to record ITVHD 0965 which works. Is the non freesat channel 0965, as perhaps if it is, it pick up this one somehow.
The postcode used was M1 number which is granada. I can view BBCHD & 1 and also view ITV HD. Marina You are saying you have two viewable ITV1-HD channels one where it should be at 119 and another at 0965 ? Tune into each in turn and press opt+. Post the transponder details. If you use a Manchester postcode the two ITV 1 SD channels you have are both vertically polarised so wont be accessible while recording CH4. You need to choose a postcode that puts a horizontal one at 103 and this will then be recordable/viewable while recording CH4 Choose from the following list 103 ITV 1 Border England 103 ITV 1 Tyne Tees North 103 ITV 1 Yorkshire West |
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First thing to check - we are talking about a Humax Foxsat-hdr connected with a single cable and a loop from tuner 1 out to tuner 2 in and using Freesat mode with the full epg ?
You are saying you have two viewable ITV1-HD channels one where it should be at 119 and another at 0965 ? Tune into each in turn and press opt+. Post the transponder details. If you use a Manchester postcode the two ITV 1 SD channels you have are both vertically polarised so wont be accessible while recording CH4. You need to choose a postcode that puts a horizontal one at 103 and this will then be recordable/viewable while recording CH4 Choose from the following list 103 ITV 1 Border England 103 ITV 1 Tyne Tees North 103 ITV 1 Yorkshire West I have the Freesat EPG. Only one ITVHD channel is showing. I am using the M1 postcode which gives me the Granada TV as it was mentioned that you could then record BBC1HD and ITV1HD at the same time (which I can). The only time that I get the option to record 0965ITVHD is when I have channel 4 to record and choose the normal ITVHD to record then I get the conflict and option to record 0965 ITV HD. Perhaps someone in the Manchester area with one feed could try to see if it is happening with them. The transponder details for Channel 4 is 10714 MHZ H and ITV HD is 10936 MHZ V. I can't find out was the transponder is for the program recorded on 0965 ITVHD. Marina |
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I am using Humax HDR using one feed with a loop through.
I have the Freesat EPG. Only one ITVHD channel is showing. I am using the M1 postcode which gives me the Granada TV as it was mentioned that you could then record BBC1HD and ITV1HD at the same time (which I can). The only time that I get the option to record 0965ITVHD is when I have channel 4 to record and choose the normal ITVHD to record then I get the conflict and option to record 0965 ITV HD. Perhaps someone in the Manchester area with one feed could try to see if it is happening with them. The transponder details for Channel 4 is 10714 MHZ H and ITV HD is 10936 MHZ V. I can't find out was the transponder is for the program recorded on 0965 ITVHD. Marina |
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Marina going away for a couple of days but I will see if I can emulate what's going on when back. Fascinating, one thing you can do is look at the ads for the 0965 recording to see where they come from. Logic dictates that it must be London.
Will look at adverts to see if I can tell. Marina |
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Update before I leave. There is definetely something clever going on in the background. It looks as if the two ITV1-HD's are both accessible with the one that's from the postcode on the epg at 119 and the other sort of in the background. This makes sense of a Harvard box owner who posted that both ITV1-HD's was on his epg.
Did a quick test this morning (2 cables Manchester postcode) Set a reservation on Channel 118 (ITV4 + 1, 10832 H) this is on the same transponder as ITV1-HD Crystal Palace. Set a 2nd on 121 (CH4+1, 10729 V) at the same time. This should mean that only channels sharing a transponder as either of the above will be viewable at the same time. Set a watch reservation on 119 (which is 10936 V). The watch reservation was accepted without comment. If in the event this worked it could only have been ITV1-HD Crystal Palace on 10832 H. Sadly can't hang around to see what would have happened
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False alarm I am afraid
. The hdr must have a bug in that it does not report a clash arising from a watch reservation at the time it's set. The clash is only identified in real time when it happens. For instance watching a watch reservation that will not be possible in 10 mins is only identified as it happens. Setting a manual watch is identified instantly when setting a start time matching the second recording start time causing the clash. Now need volunteers with one cable with ITV1-HD London and ITV1-HD Granada at 119 to try some combinations. Any progress in identifying the AD's in the 0965 recording ?
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False alarm I am afraid
. The hdr must have a bug in that it does not report a clash arising from a watch reservation at the time it's set. The clash is only identified in real time when it happens. For instance watching a watch reservation that will not be possible in 10 mins is only identified as it happens. Setting a manual watch is identified instantly when setting a start time matching the second recording start time causing the clash. Now need volunteers with one cable with ITV1-HD London and ITV1-HD Granada at 119 to try some combinations. Any progress in identifying the AD's in the 0965 recording ? |
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All the ads that I have seen so far are for the big companies but will keep watching.
Cannot set a watch it comes up as conflict but will accept recording on 0965 ITVHD, so can chase play the recording. Still have not seen any local ads. marina |
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Marina going away for a couple of days but I will see if I can emulate what's going on when back. Fascinating, one thing you can do is look at the ads for the 0965 recording to see where they come from. Logic dictates that it must be London.
Showing an advert for London Capital FM. The same advert on Granada is for Manchester Capital FM. Marina |
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