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Liz did not "overbuy" thanks very much Lord Suggs
having never done this before and having no idea about demand Liz did not overbuy as she was accused.
She actually made a good guess using the variables she had available. You cannot accuse her, as Sugar did, of overbuying (as an error) therefore. Baggsie should have been battered for guestimating 30 based on nothing. Had either team ran out of DVD's then it would have been curtains for whoever made the call. |
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Absolutely.
Once again, Sugar uses perfect hindsight and still manages to get it exactly wrong. Unless it was acceptable for the teams to go and buy more (and there are so many hidden rules with these tasks that I'd bet it wasn't), it would have been madness to skimp on buying DVD's as, if you were really successful, and/or encountered a few duds (which certainly happens) you would have been in the absurd position of having to turn away custom and then you would really have got blasted. |
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Of course she over bought.
If demand is so high you are in danger of running out of product you raise the price. Simple supply and demand. It's basic stuff. |
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Liz and Sandeesh did infact 'overbuy'. Though after watching 'you're fired' it would appear that the blame fell more upon Sandeesh.
She stated that Liz predicted that the maximum amount of dvds they'd be able to burn would be around the 88 mark (how she came to that figure is beyond me; I'm sure the professionals stated it would take 15-20mins/dvd). This was assuming that they were constantly producing dvd's at breakneck speeds. The amount of DVDs bought was actually 110, which was not only 20 over the prediction (the maximum; which they were unlikely to achieve at any rate) but was designed to cover any breakages (doubt that there were many broken at all). It was a case of over-buying. Liz's prediction was relatively unreasonable and based upon a lightning fast turn around. To then break that maximum figure was not the greatest of ideas. HOWEVER, they did not lose the task purely on that fact alone. Even if they had halved the amount they had purchased it still would not have fully covered the money required in order to beat the other team. |
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having never done this before and having no idea about demand Liz did not overbuy as she was accused.
She actually made a good guess using the variables she had available. You cannot accuse her, as Sugar did, of overbuying (as an error) therefore. Baggsie should have been battered for guestimating 30 based on nothing. Had either team ran out of DVD's then it would have been curtains for whoever made the call. In my mind any team that got beaten by Baggs incompitance, all deserve to be fired. |
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Well without being funny. If the optimum capacity for burning was 80-or whatever the number was they were given. Then surely you would think someone would say. "but hang on, we won't be burning solidly non stop, the timescale between making the video would at best be 50% of the optimum." lets get 40?" No one said that as they were willing to except a near 30% cock up ratio.
In my mind any team that got beaten by Baggs incompitance, all deserve to be fired. The errors that got Sandeesh the push were: 1 - Not managing the team properly 2 - Opening late 3 - Not bringing Jamie into the boardroom |
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I thought Liz gave her a price for buying 100 dvds, and then gave sandeesh the option of buying an extra 10 dvds for an extra fiver, Sandeesh said yes, so it was Sandeesh who decided how many they would buy. Liz simply presented the facts n figures (projections) to her. And I think the real issue was the price they sold for should have been higher, not the number of dvds they bought. And they lost an hour in the morning, so lost sales there too.
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The amount of DVDs bought was actually 110, which was not only 20 over the prediction (the maximum; which they were unlikely to achieve at any rate) but was designed to cover any breakages (doubt that there were many broken at all). |
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Surely the prediction was 3 to 4 (max 4) per hour and they had 11 hours selling time, so 44 would have been the most they could reasonably expect to sell. Why they bought so many I will never understand.
Also nipping off & buying that toy car as a last minute addition to their stand must have added to the budget? |
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But they actually sold and produced 57 so 40 would have left them short and losing by more.
The errors that got Sandeesh the push were: 1 - Not managing the team properly 2 - Opening late 3 - Not bringing Jamie into the boardroom a. by too much b. too soon c. without exhausting all other alternatives; market ploys, the use of props, etc. |
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She totally DID overstock! Please do the maths....properly. Unlike Liz.
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She did overstock, but to claim it made a huge difference is rather over egging it.
Note that they sold 57 DVDs - if they had gone with a stock level of 30 like Stubaggs pulled out of his head then they would have had a massive shortfall in sales - Lordalun would doubtless have blasted them for that! It was starting too late, getting the sale price wrong and poor sales that did for the team this week not a few quid on redundant DVD blanks. |
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Liz and Sandeesh did infact 'overbuy'. Though after watching 'you're fired' it would appear that the blame fell more upon Sandeesh.
She stated that Liz predicted that the maximum amount of dvds they'd be able to burn would be around the 88 mark (how she came to that figure is beyond me; I'm sure the professionals stated it would take 15-20mins/dvd). This was assuming that they were constantly producing dvd's at breakneck speeds. The amount of DVDs bought was actually 110, which was not only 20 over the prediction (the maximum; which they were unlikely to achieve at any rate) but was designed to cover any breakages (doubt that there were many broken at all). It was a case of over-buying. Liz's prediction was relatively unreasonable and based upon a lightning fast turn around. To then break that maximum figure was not the greatest of ideas. HOWEVER, they did not lose the task purely on that fact alone. Even if they had halved the amount they had purchased it still would not have fully covered the money required in order to beat the other team. |
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how can it possibly take 15-20 minutes to burn a 5 minute DVD. 8 DVD's an hour sounds OK to me.
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Theres something wack going on, if they sold 57 DVDs in nine hours then they managed to burn an average of over six an hour. Given sales were very slack early on surely they must have been achieving far more than four an hour at some point?
Is the confusion that the machines could burn four an hour, but they had two machines each? |
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Liz and Sandeesh did infact 'overbuy'. Though after watching 'you're fired' it would appear that the blame fell more upon Sandeesh.
She stated that Liz predicted that the maximum amount of dvds they'd be able to burn would be around the 88 mark (how she came to that figure is beyond me; |
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What I found most surprising was how the supposed mathematical genius that is Carol Vorderman failed to highlight on TAYF that 4 times 11 doesn't equal 88 - which was the calculation that Sandeesh and Liz seem to have made.
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that must be 2 machines, then.
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Stupid thing is after an hour of not selling they didn't think of the fact that their projections were out and did nothing about it.
If they reassesed their stock on an hour to hour basis they could have at the very least covered their DvD costs by charging something like £1 for a extra copy to send to grandparents or something. |
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well why not get another computer. surely they all possess a laptop. I cant believe it would be against the rules. And why have it in a backroom. A computer today doesnt take up that much room. And why not buy them at the pound shop. Making the price too high just means they didnt come back to collect them. As I wrote they should have told them they could make a profit selling them on ebay afterwards.
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She totally DID overstock! Please do the maths....properly. Unlike Liz.
They had zero idea so cannot stand accused, only in hindsight - and no businessman worth his salt would do that |
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The pound extra copy which would take 15 min to make would not be worth it. In that time they could do nothing else on the computer
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Doesn't matter what they could sell. They could only PRODUCE/manufacture a given number in the allotted time due to the editing requirements.
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The pound extra copy which would take 15 min to make would not be worth it. In that time they could do nothing else on the computer
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the shopping centre sold blank DVDs - so why not buy 20-30 and then buy more if needed?
most stationers sell them on spindles of 10, 25 and 50. the teams should have taken a deposit with full payment at delivery. |
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