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Does Sugar know who to fire *before* they get in the boardroom ? |
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Does Sugar know who to fire *before* they get in the boardroom ?
I mean, he knows who's won (via Nick and Karren), so that leaves little choice on who's going.
So has the 'firing' already been decided ? - personally I don't believe he chooses after the candidates have given their reasons for the failure of the task, and their 'desperateness' in trying to stay 'till the end of the run. |
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He doesn't go in absolutely vacant if that's what you're asking. Of course he'll have some idea of who's responsible, who's safe, who's on thin ice. And naturally he'll have some preconceptions.
The boardroom's the bit where you try and talk yourself into (or out of) the job. In the last couple of boardrooms it was a bit of a foregone conclusion. There was no way that anyone other than Sandeesh was going last time (unless she'd brought Jamie in), and Alex absolutely had his neck on the line the week before. Paloma, though, is a good example of someone who wouldn't've been fired were it not for her performance in the boardroom. There haven't been that many close calls this series, so the boardroom is looking a wee bit more futile than usual. Out of the firees so far, Sandeesh, Alex, Melissa and possibly Shibby were definitely obvious choices. Not much tension around Dan's firing, either. Usually it's less obvious who's culpable for the failure, and the boardroom serves more of a purpose. 'Course, the Lord's got his favourite and least favourite candidates, too. Laura's clearly not one of the ones he's fond of. He was trying to steer Sandeesh into bringing Jamie in, too - Sandeesh of whom he was fairly fond. So yeah. He tends to have an idea. But watching the candidates deconstruct one another is often a lot more telling than what his little observers can tell him. Not least 'cause they can't see everything that goes on - especially on the early tasks where the teams will often be split into two. |
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I mean, he knows who's won (via Nick and Karren), so that leaves little choice on who's going.
My impression is that he's only had a relatively short briefing before the first boardroom in which the result is announced. In some ways that is the most interesting phase. The candidates have to, eg, give their opinion of the PM without know whether they lost. Lord Sugar knows the result, and this is his only chance to give the winning candidates a grilling. Then I think there's a very long briefing before the second boardroom. The second and third boardrooms are often the day after the first, and take all day, and they can happen concurrently with the treat being filmed. So at the start of the second boardroom, Lord Sugar has all his ducks in a row and the candidates need to be on the ball. He'll often know the answers to his questions before he asks them. At the end of that, the PM picks the 2 for the final boardroom and they adjourn. Several times it's been clear the Lord Sugar has someone on his short list, and the PM can lose points for failing to bring them back, or for bringing them back without understanding why. This is often the earliest Lord Sugar can decide. He has some time to adsorb the excuses the candidates have given, and maybe check up on things they've claimed, but my impression is that this gap between meetings is shorter than the other two. The candidates aren't shown leaving and returning. I think the final boardroom can make a difference, but by the start of it Lord Sugar has had tons of information and feedback and it's unusual for him to be surprised. Candidates have saved themselves with a last minute spirited defence, or damned themselves by giving up. (Personally I think Paloma was a terrible candidate who should have been fired instead of Shibby, so I think she'd have gone even if she hadn't made that outburst.) I suspect he continues thinking about the candidates even after the firing. He sometimes seems to change his opinion about them between episodes for no apparent reason - with his new opinion being more in line with what we viewers saw. |
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I doubt it, as he doesn't know which two the Project Manager will bring in.
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Thanks for your replies, peeps ![]() And this bit : Quote:
I doubt it, as he doesn't know which two the Project Manager will bring in.
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Thanks for your replies, peeps
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Your forgetting though that when the teams slim down to 6 left, theres no need for the first part of the boardroom session at all.
Even then we can take a look at the Marrakesh task when Jenny was fired right off the bat without any third-part of the boardroom meeting. |
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