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Good for you Len.
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MACTOWIN
20-11-2010
He is different on DWTS he lets just about anything go but then they would never put up with his strops.
-Sid-
20-11-2010
Although I concede that Kara & Artem's routine strayed too far from what an American Smooth is supposed to be, a four point deduction was way too severe.

At the same time though, the dance wasn't worth 10s either.

They were in the correct position overall but Len should be ashamed of himself!
supratentorial
20-11-2010
I think Len has lost the plot! How about he is replaced with Karen Hardy next year?
Maz1111
20-11-2010
Kara's dance was one of the few best I have seen on scd. It was outstanding. She did not put a foot, hand, arm etc..wrong! The choreography was to me just as good as karen n mark's at! That is saying alot! Len really let her ability down.
Dollystanford
20-11-2010
I still think they were the best of the night - I can just about take them being beaten by Matt but NOT Pamela
j4Rose
20-11-2010
I wouldn't mind Len, but he is far from consistent!
JukeJive
20-11-2010
6? 6?? Infuriating. And then he scored that monstrosity 5? Shame on Len.
librarygirl
20-11-2010
Len has lost all credibility, he has been ignoring props, lifts, and routines which bear no resemblance to the actual dances they purport to represent, throughout the series. Then he gives Kara one more point than the dreadful Widdecombe, Len needs to go next year.
CaptainSensible
20-11-2010
8 would have been harsh, but fair/justifiable.

6 was just silly.
caitysox
20-11-2010
Strictly was totally spoilt for me this evening.
Len cannot truely believe that Kara's dance was only worth one more point than Ann's.
Kara and Artem have been the best by far in this series, followed by Matt and Scott, these are my favourite final three.
I hope Artem gets back to full fitness soon.

Good Luck Kara and Artem, you have my vote. xx
fancynancy
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by currykev:
“i actually believe Kara to be the best dancer ever on SCD”

She's magical.

I'd like to lynch Len. That six was an insult
soapgirlhere
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by catslovelycats:
“did Anne's dance have enough of the right content to get a 5?”

Very good point.

What a load of bull.
lach doch mal
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“She's magical.

I'd like to lynch Len. ”

I might join you.
hansue
20-11-2010
I wonder if he undermarked her because he knew what the others were going to give her just to balance it.
trevvytrev21
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by currykev:
“i actually believe Kara to be the best dancer ever on SCD”

Starting to look like it.

Originally Posted by TylerTango:
“Kara scored the second lowest from Len. I'm really, really peeved.”

Madness.
SilverFeather
20-11-2010
Really shocked by Len tonight. Kara looked like she was fighting tears at the end and Artem looked in so much pain. Anyway, it has motivated me to pick up the phone and vote for the first time this year. Kara and Artem have my votes.
Linda_Dean
20-11-2010
I think Len's point was that there was no hold, at all. It was a truly stunning performance and dance from them both, as well as truly inspired choreography. I was personally impressed by the dance. But I was wondering, about half way through when the hold was going to kick in, and it never did, it was more of a showdance, so I can see his point. He can't mark it for an American Smooth if there was none. Doesn't detract from how great it was though.
JJ28
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Well said.

Len was absolutely appalling tonight. He had no justification whatsoever for giving Kara anything less than an 8, and his behaviour when he was booed was just infantile.

To give Kara only 1 point more than Ann, who he overmarked as usual, is an utter disgrace. I really do think he left his personality, common sense and manners in the USA this week, because they certainly weren't present tonight.”

Totally agree, and what he said to Matt beggars belief!
Abbasolutely 40
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by Linda_Dean:
“I think Len's point was that there was no hold, at all. It was a truly stunning performance and dance from them both, as well as truly inspired choreography. I was personally impressed by the dance. But I was wondering, about half way through when the hold was going to kick in, and it never did, it was more of a showdance, so I can see his point. He can't mark it for an American Smooth if there was none. Doesn't detract from how great it was though.”

And Anns was a real Samba in Lens eyes?? Bullshit Len ,
ianswaiting
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by librarygirl:
“Len has lost all credibility, he has been ignoring props, lifts, and routines which bear no resemblance to the actual dances they purport to represent, throughout the series. Then he gives Kara one more point than the dreadful Widdecombe, Len needs to go next year.”

I agree. He should have more credibility than all the other three put together but he just makes himself look a twit
piimapoika
20-11-2010
Len is perfectly right. American Smooth must be 40% in hold: http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlydancefe...g/smooth.shtml

Mind you, I agree that Ann was grossly overmarked. She didn't deserve more than a 1 from each judge.
jabegy
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by supratentorial:
“I think Len has lost the plot! How about he is replaced with Karen Hardy next year?”

Yes, good idea, and bring back Arlene Phillips too in place of Alesha.
Starpuss
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by Linda_Dean:
“I think Len's point was that there was no hold, at all. It was a truly stunning performance and dance from them both, as well as truly inspired choreography. I was personally impressed by the dance. But I was wondering, about half way through when the hold was going to kick in, and it never did, it was more of a showdance, so I can see his point. He can't mark it for an American Smooth if there was none. Doesn't detract from how great it was though.”

Which would be ok if he had scored all the dances so far in relation to how well they match the actual dance but he hasn't. Anne's fiasco was no where near a samba yet he gave her a 5, one less mark than Kara. Madness
Dragonlady 25
20-11-2010
So everyone gets peed off with Len's mark.

So everyone votes for them.

So job done!!
Mystical123
20-11-2010
Originally Posted by piimapoika:
“Len is perfectly right. American Smooth must be 40% in hold: http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlydancefe...g/smooth.shtml

.”

he may be right that the choreography didn't strictly fit the rules, but that still doesn't justify a 4-point deduction. She did plenty of steps you normally find in an AS in out of hold bits.
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