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Old 21-11-2010, 12:52
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...10-review.html

Beatles Night in the crooning contest was embarrassing, but Cheryl Cole's outburst was even worse

X Factor judge Cheryl Cole clearly wanted to stick the knife into controversial contestant Wagner Carillho tonight. However, her transparently pre-planned outburst backfired and might just have kept the eccentric Brazilian in the competition for another week.

The gurning PE teacher’s presence in the singing competition is a joke that’s long since worn thin – not least because he can’t sing. The audience were realising that during his demented medley of Get Back, Hippy Hippy Shake and Hey Jude. Or “hey jew-jew-wow”, as he put it. Why kill one Beatles song when you can commit mass murder? While wearing a blue Sergeant Pepper coat and staring sweatily down the camera with the occasional sinister wink?

However, Cole saw fit not to judge this painful performance but take Carillho to task about a tabloid story in which he allegedly, and accurately, called her a "council estate girl". This ill-pitched ploy not only succeeded in drawing the story to the attention of those millions of us who'd missed it, but made Cole look petty and unprofessional. It bullied Carillho into garbling an awkward apology and the studio audience seemed to side with him. Could the nation’s love affair with the Geordie princess be about to end?
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Old 21-11-2010, 12:59
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100% agree, when I watched, I also thought that he 'owned' her...all she could do was smile. I don't care for him but I do enjoy a circus!
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:07
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I'm glad that one of the papers is telling it how it is. This is opposed to The Sun who are trying to make Wagner look like the bad guy.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:12
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100% agree, when I watched, I also thought that he 'owned' her...all she could do was smile. I don't care for him but I do enjoy a circus!
All she had to do was smile.

And if the Torygraph's spinning on Wagner's side, that's not much of a point in his favour.

That it's even called an "outburst" is misleading spin.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:14
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Well Wagner did not apologise he explained himself with class, cheryl looked classless and should have said sorry
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:15
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Paige or how ever it's spelt will go tonight anyway
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:18
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All she had to do was smile.

And if the Torygraph's spinning on Wagner's side, that's not much of a point in his favour.
If she had had any further ammunition, she would have used it and not just smiled but she didn't have anything else to throw other than an allegation that he eloquently refuted in his less than perfect English.

If all you can throw at the paper is their political persuasion, that's not much of a point in yours or her favour.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:19
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I love this bit:
Why kill one Beatles song when you can commit mass murder? While wearing a blue Sergeant Pepper coat and staring sweatily down the camera with the occasional sinister wink?

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Old 21-11-2010, 13:21
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All she had to do was smile.

And if the Torygraph's spinning on Wagner's side, that's not much of a point in his favour.

That it's even called an "outburst" is misleading spin.
Agree, that paper is even more foul than the red tops, only it has delusions of being 'posher'. If they want the definition of outburst - I can show them, they obviously have no clue.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:22
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Well Wagner did not apologise he explained himself with class, cheryl looked classless and should have said sorry
breeding will out
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:22
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The sort of sniffy tosh you'd expect from the Torygraph.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:24
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And if the Torygraph's spinning on Wagner's side, that's not much of a point in his favour.
It's working for Ann Widdecombe
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:25
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I'm not a Wagner fan but I had so much respect for him after clearly and concisely explained what he actually said. Cheryl was bang out of order but he ended up owning her and pretty much guaranteeing himself the votes to keep him there for another week.

I'm started to get pissed off at the media's treatment of him. He gives The Mirror an interview yet they use words and phrases like "the deluded act" and "he rambled". Absolutely disgusting treatment of someone.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:28
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That article has a number of subliminal undertones... why did they have to refer to his performance with the spelling "jew jew"... instead of "ju ju" and then link it in the same paragraph with references to mass murder - including the reference to a 'sinister wink'?

What the hell is that all about?

They can't be blatantly racist but it's subliminal drafting like this that is used to ensure that the public view him as an outsider based on race alone.

The artcle pretends to be pro-wagner on a superficial level but it's cleverly engineered to turn people against him without them knowing.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:28
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she had all week to talk to Vagner

and even then

a story in THE MIRROR?

FFS DO NOT MAKE ME LAUGH
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:28
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The sort of sniffy tosh you'd expect from the Torygraph.
Yep............same as the sort of dribble that comes out of some chavs mouths...........but heh .....u gotta have some.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:29
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Given Cheryl's previous comments of not taking any notice of what the press say because most of it is either made up or misrepresented to the point that any quote is given a completely different meaning, her bringing it up was a blatant attemt to make people dislike him.

His comments were that she's 'just a girl from a council estate who got lucky' ...which is true... anyone in the music industry will happily tell you that to become successful you need an awful lot of hard work, and a good dash of luck to go with it....how is that a put down??? When he explained the context - that this is a source of hope for many who can't see a way to better themselves - was outstanding!!!!!!!!!! Whether that's the true context, it totally pee'd on her firework, because he never faltered. He didn't look uncomfortable, he kept smiling, there was nothing in his eyes that suggested he was being underhand.....unlike the smug look in missy's face when she made her comment in the first place!!
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:31
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The whole thing is a perfect reflection of all that is wrong with x factor. The show is more about the judges than it is the actual "singers". Why Cheryl felt the need to comment on this rather than Wagners actual performance tells its own story.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:35
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The whole thing is a perfect reflection of all that is wrong with x factor. The show is more about the judges than it is the actual "singers". Why Cheryl felt the need to comment on this rather than Wagners actual performance tells its own story.
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the fact that the 2 bitches cannot even critique Wagner is an insult to the viewers. who the f do they think they are?
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:38
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correct

the fact that the 2 bitches cannot even critique Wagner is an insult to the viewers. who the f do they think they are?
Apparently the one is supposed to be the country's sweetheart............not sure who reckons that........maybe the countrys most succesful CHAV.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:43
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That article has a number of subliminal undertones... why did they have to refer to his performance with the spelling "jew jew"... instead of "ju ju" and then link it in the same paragraph with references to mass murder - including the reference to a 'sinister wink'?

What the hell is that all about?

They can't be blatantly racist but it's subliminal drafting like this that is used to ensure that the public view him as an outsider based on race alone.

The artcle pretends to be pro-wagner on a superficial level but it's cleverly engineered to turn people against him without them knowing.
Eh!?

Are you seriously referencing the Holocaust right now?!? Over this?

Wow.

I thought the Gamu/racism/conspiracy threads were mad but this is just...Wow.

Unless you're kidding. In which case...don't mind me.
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Old 21-11-2010, 13:45
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Apparently the one is supposed to be the country's sweetheart............not sure who reckons that........maybe the countrys most succesful CHAV.
Ironically (and this isn't a dig at you) that kind of comment is exactly what this show is designed to produce......people talking about, and having an opinion on, the judges rather than the acts.

Credit where it's due I guess....Cowells manipulation in this area really does pay dividends.
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Old 21-11-2010, 14:23
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I don't entirely agree with this analysis it's too populistic to criticise Cheryl like this but I don't really know why she rose to whatever it was that Wagner said. Having a go at him like that is more likely to increase his support and harm the support of her own acts. Also by giving credibility to tabloid tittle tattle she's making a rod for her own back in the future with things she may say to journalists in private or otherwise.

I think she played into his hands with those comments and came out of it looking a little sheepish.
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Old 21-11-2010, 15:27
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Tweedy was very quiet on Xtra Factor. Probably still felt a fool for bullying Wagner. Soon everyone will realise she has no clothes on & we will never have to see her again.
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Old 21-11-2010, 17:21
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That article has a number of subliminal undertones... why did they have to refer to his performance with the spelling "jew jew"... instead of "ju ju" and then link it in the same paragraph with references to mass murder - including the reference to a 'sinister wink'?

What the hell is that all about?

They can't be blatantly racist but it's subliminal drafting like this that is used to ensure that the public view him as an outsider based on race alone.

The artcle pretends to be pro-wagner on a superficial level but it's cleverly engineered to turn people against him without them knowing.
very good analysis.
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