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What do you want in the Iphone 5?
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old bill2
17-01-2011
All I want is a phone which does not drop the signal every time you pick the thing up. At the launch date they unveil the IPs new OS WINDOWS 7.
whackyracer
17-01-2011
I must say I've never had a problem with signal dropping on iPhone 4, neither have my 3 colleagues, my brother or my other half's brother?
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
I can assure you it happens. As a massive apple fan I'm less than impressed with the quality of the iPhone 4

It's the one iPhone I've had out of all of them that I have thought about getting rid of. Sure it looks great and I love the screen but the fundamentals don't work for me
linkinpark875
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“I can assure you it happens. As a massive apple fan I'm less than impressed with the quality of the iPhone 4

It's the one iPhone I've had out of all of them that I have thought about getting rid of. Sure it looks great and I love the screen but the fundamentals don't work for me”

I had an Ipod 3rd generation one before basically like the 3GS. Iphone 4 is miles better quality infact it's the best made phone I've had.

I'd never have considered an Iphone 3G due to awful camera and the curve design was not appealing compared to LG/Samsung phones.
welwynrose
17-01-2011
I stayed with the iphone 3GS as I don't like the design of the iphone 4 so would be happy with an overall of the design if not I'll stay with the iphone I've got
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I had an Ipod 3rd generation one before basically like the 3GS. Iphone 4 is miles better quality infact it's the best made phone I've had.

I'd never have considered an Iphone 3G due to awful camera and the curve design was not appealing compared to LG/Samsung phones.”

It is a good phone, just im annoyed by the fact they spent so much effort keeping it secret they missed out on crucial testing. i.e. you cant hold your own phone.

I love how it looks, but looks aren't everything

Im excited to see what IP5 has to offer, if its not much then ill try android until the next iphone cycle.
Vallhund
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“It is a good phone, just im annoyed by the fact they spent so much effort keeping it secret they missed out on crucial testing. i.e. you cant hold your own phone.”

That's being a bit silly, since almost all phones warn against covering the antenna and instruct you to hold it properly.

A fabricated shortcoming if there ever was one.
Soundburst
17-01-2011
Can't wait.

I got my 3GS in January last year. . .so my contract renewal arrives the same time as iPhone 5.

Which will, once again, be the smartphone of smartphones.

Imagine the iPhone didn't come out in 2007 and we were still looking forward to Samsung U600's

Bewildering!
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by Vallhund:
“That's being a bit silly, since almost all phones warn against covering the antenna and instruct you to hold it properly.

A fabricated shortcoming if there ever was one. ”

So i'm making it up? How is it silly?

Vallhund, im massively pro apple, i own many apple items including all iphones, a mac pro, a macbook air, time capsule, ipods etc etc so you don't need to write a condescending post like your talking to a 15 year old windows fanboy as i've seen you do so often to people on here.

How can you tell me i am not holding my phone right? surely i hold my phone how i want? and how i have held my iphone2, 3G, 3GS, and now 4. The FACT of the matter is, for me, that when i hold my phone normally it loses signal. Call me a liar all you want son but I know what happens when i use it

So jump off your little pro apple pony mate.
Soundburst
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“So i'm making it up? How is it silly?

Vallhund, im massively pro apple, i own many apple items including all iphones, a mac pro, a macbook air, time capsule, ipods etc etc so you don't need to write a condescending post like your talking to a 15 year old windows fanboy as i've seen you do so often to people on here.

How can you tell me i am not holding my phone right? surely i hold my phone how i want? and how i have held my iphone2, 3G, 3GS, and now 4. The FACT of the matter is, for me, that when i hold my phone normally it loses signal. Call me a liar all you want son but I know what happens when i use it

So jump off your little pro apple pony mate. ”

Your post was nonsensical , hence his reply.

There are millions of iPhone 4's being used by customers all over the globe.

Believe it or not when those millions all use the same build of phone - they're holding the device.

Nullifying your "can't hold your own phone" comment , and it's attempt at humor.
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
So my comment is null and void because i have an issue?

I'm kind of disappointed at your post soundburst, being a big reader of these forums your posts generally seem to be quite fair and decent.

Yet all you do is shoot me down and mock me because of my experiance of a phone handset?
Soundburst
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“So my comment is null and void because i have an issue?

I'm kind of disappointed at your post soundburst, being a big reader of these forums your posts generally seem to be quite fair and decent.

Yet all you do is shoot me down and mock me because of my experiance of a phone handset?”

"Missed out on testing. . .can't hold your own phone".

Every iPhone 4 is the same. Millions of people have the phone, and they all hold it to use it. So yes. . .void.
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
The point about the testing was due to them using a case to make the iPhone 4 look like a 3GS!

therefor not exposing the phone to out in the field normal use. I'm sure it had testing done but they'd benefit more from not being so secretive IMO


Oh i see what your saying about the holding your phone now, taking it literally just to have a pop, nice.
alanwarwic
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by Vallhund:
“A fabricated shortcoming if there ever was one. ”

Pretending all phones had this negative feature was just slight of hand so you are right.

The shortcoming that exist in all phones is a different problem altogether.
Soundburst
17-01-2011
I have no idea what the post above the above post means.

I just wanted to point out why Vallhund said what he did.

It was because you're original post was wrong and libelous.

You can hold the iPhone 4 and use it - as millions of people all around the world do every single day.

That is all.
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
I give up. I'll edit my libellious post

edit: Infact it appears I do not have the option to do so.

appreciate you clearing it up alanwarwic, I didn't understand what he meant.

I feel that there was no need for everything i said to be taken so literally just to give you the ammo to have a go. But life goes on
Soundburst
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“I give up. I'll edit my libellious post

edit: Infact it appears I do not have the option to do so.

appreciate you clearing it up alanwarwic, I didn't understand what he meant.

I feel that there was no need for everything i said to be taken so literally just to give you the ammo to have a go. But life goes on”

No one is having a go.

But to say you can't hold the iPhone 4 is wrong, pointless, and nonsensical so it needed to be addressed.
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
Not in the way it was though, no need at all in my opinion.

anyway I said how can I hold my phone wrong, im holding it the same way i've held every iPhone ive had, so that to me would mean i was operating it correctly. You wouldn't expect to have to change your holding methods between phone revisions would you?
Soundburst
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“Not in the way it was though, no need at all in my opinion.

anyway I said how can I hold my phone wrong, im holding it the same way i've held every iPhone ive had, so that to me would mean i was operating it correctly. You wouldn't expect to have to change your holding methods between phone revisions would you?”

When you claim that a phone can't be held.

That phone has millions of users.

Then there is a very big need.

It's not , in any way , humorous to say "can't even hold your own phone".
TheBigM
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
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You can hold the iPhone 4 and use it - as millions of people all around the world do every single day.”

The flaw in your logic is that while the iPhone4 design spec is the same for all iPhones not all will be manufactured the same to the same micron.

Any manufacturing process has variances and tolerances meaning while most will be fine, it doesn't stop some being faulty.

In any case, at the iPhone4 launch SJobs made a massive virtue of this new antenna design. Then Apple tried to associate the iPhone4 specific problem of people's fingers shorting the antenna of the general problem of signal attenuation for anything covering an antenna (a DIFFERENT problem). This was disingenuous. Signal attenuation affected iPhones 2G to 3GS in the normal way (like with other phones). The iPhone 4 problem was additional to this.

Then Apple backed down a bit by offering these free iPhone4 condoms ("bumpers") that they do.
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“When you claim that a phone can't be held.

That phone has millions of users.

Then there is a very big need.

It's not , in any way , humorous to say "can't even hold your own phone".”

Theres never a reason to be rude to someone else mate.

Did you not just read what i wrote? or are you simply ignoring it. I am talking about me holding MY phone. The same way I have held every one of the previous iPhones I've owned.

Look I'm not sure if you've had a bad day or something but I am entitled to say about the problems I have with a phone I paid £600 for
DotNetWill
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by Vallhund:
“That's being a bit silly, since almost all phones warn against covering the antenna and instruct you to hold it properly.

A fabricated shortcoming if there ever was one. ”

Not had that problem with yours then?...oh wait you don't have one to know...you're doing that a lot lately.

FWIW I have a works one and I can make it do it but in my natural holding position it's not that bad.
Soundburst
17-01-2011
I never have bad days.

And I certainly wasn't rude.
SPARKIE1984
17-01-2011
ok soundburst you win.

Maybe we should leave our posts between each other there, as to me there was no need for the way you worded your posts. You see nothing wrong with it, I do. We'll agree to disagree.



Anyway I'll be excited to see what the future holds for apple, be weird seeing someone else announce the iPhone this year
alanwarwic
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by SPARKIE1984:
“appreciate you clearing it up alanwarwic, I didn't understand what he meant.”

First translate most of what Soundburst and Vallhund say to 'Apple is my number one' and then work backwards.

It works for me.
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