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Yeah maybe, quite how comfortable to use it will be though. I have heard viewing angles have to be absolutely spot on to get the effect.
I don't think they'll go 3D until its a maturer technology. |
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I was reading those articles on twitter Matt, looks like the next iPhone will be a powerhouse if it comes true!
Maybe i'll be sticking with iPhones at this rate as i can't see much that will compete with it. I wonder what time last year the iPhone 4 got "left" in a bar, as there seems to be a massive lack of leaks so far. Maybe its a bit early for all that Maybe "retina HD" or "super retina" ![]() |
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Yeah good point, I'd be interested in seeing how long the motorola dual core phone will last on battery
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You must be careful with mobile devices how powerful the configuration is, because in the end you may end up needing a really long power extension cord to use them.
Battery technology hasn't really progressed too much, especially capacity-wise. What has progressed is capacitor technology. I think we are more likely to see situations of high capacity (approaching battery levels of charge storage) capacitors that can charge to full again in a minute. (i.e. lots of chargers everywhere, regular charging - several times a day maybe but very short charging times). The other way things could go is if the technology of trickle-charging based on ambient RF energy improves by a couple of orders of magnitude then our phones could be constantly, permanently be getting topped up. |
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I came across this article Who killed the Intel microprocessor? [Strong ARM] It's about Intel processors not being flexible enough for mobile computing and it describes how ARM licensing works, that you should optimise all components of the mobile device to do what they are supposed to most efficiently, the processor being one of the components. So you would not want too much computational power, because it means a higher power consumption.
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What about a dual mode GSM/LTE phone for here (and CDMA/LTE for Verizon).
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Get a Morphie juice pack.
Good for the 1% of users who do this. Other than a couple days of glitches it works. We are not on AT&T in the UK . Don't believe the anti-mac propaganda. Our iPhone drops fewer calls than our Vodafone Nokia.Why on earch should I have to buy a 'juice pack' a simple and cheap spare battery would more than suffice. |
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I believe my son in law who has problems, I believe friends of my son who have problems. I'm not anti iPhone but the fundamental shortcomings I mentioned cannot just be brushed aside Vallhund, they are serious design issues.
Why on earch should I have to buy a 'juice pack' a simple and cheap spare battery would more than suffice. Lots of my colleagues at work have iPhone 4s and no dropped calls at all. They are on Orange and 02 which have good coverage in this area. On the other hand my works Nokia suffers from dropped calls all the time. A problem with the Nokia? Not at all, Vodafone coverage here is awful. Bad network coverage isn't the fault of the iPhone, nor are people who cannot hold a phone properly. As I said about 1% will have the need for extra battery life and the Morphie pack is the perfect answer for them. As far too many Android users are finding out, replaceable batteries are a very mixed blessing. |
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I'm not questioning that they are having problems, but I doubt the iPhone is the source of those problems.
Lots of my colleagues at work have iPhone 4s and no dropped calls at all. They are on Orange and 02 which have good coverage in this area. On the other hand my works Nokia suffers from dropped calls all the time. A problem with the Nokia? Not at all, Vodafone coverage here is awful. Bad network coverage isn't the fault of the iPhone, nor are people who cannot hold a phone properly. As I said about 1% will have the need for extra battery life and the Morphie pack is the perfect answer for them. As far too many Android users are finding out, replaceable batteries are a very mixed blessing. Battery? only 1%? Got a reference for that figure as it seems nonsense. Android users have problems with replaceable batteries? Please expand. |
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All I know is what they tell me.
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Battery? only 1%? Got a reference for that figure as it seems nonsense.
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Android users have problems with replaceable batteries? Please expand.
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Bad network coverage isn't the fault of the iPhone, nor are people who cannot hold a phone properly.
As I said about 1% will have the need for extra battery life and the Morphie pack is the perfect answer for them. As far too many Android users are finding out, replaceable batteries are a very mixed blessing. However, the signal problems are a design flaw in the iPhone; the UK doesn't have it too bad, as we tend to have relatively decent networks, but you do remember that Apple gave out free bumpers, don't you? There is no way they would have done that if there wasn't a problem - ie. no smoke without fire? |
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I think they are telling you the truth, I just don't think problem is with the iPhone.
Apple traditionally builds for what 95% of buyers want. Those walking around with extra batteries would probably not even hit 1%. A replaceable battery will always be inferior to what you can achieve with a built-in battery. Android handsets are known for dire battery life. How on earth do you make out that a replacement battery will be inferior? Buy good quality is the answer. All smartphones will have a short battery life due to the power demands of the system but its only the iPhone that I know of that stops you popping a new one in. |
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The only way a non-user replaceable battery could have higher capacity within the same size constraint is to reduce the thickness of casing used. Is that a good design idea generally? I'm not so sure.
The battery replacement service earns extra money and users have a thinner phone so win win for some. |
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Some people need to ask themselves why did the iPhone become so popular in such a short period of time? People were not buying them just to replace their old Apple handset a la Blackberry, Nokia or Windows Mobile. Apple came out of nowhere with the iPhone and it was an overnight success because:[LIST][*]It was beautifully made.[*]iOS is responsive.[*]Seamless integration with iTunes.[*]Good Screen[*]Great Web Browsing[*]Excellent Support and Servicing.[/LIST]
I think what we are seeing in some of the posts are very sour grapes. |
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Some people need to ask themselves why did the iPhone become so popular in such a short period of time? People were not buying them just to replace their old Apple handset a la Blackberry, Nokia or Windows Mobile. Apple came out of nowhere with the iPhone and it was an overnight success because:[LIST][*]It was beautifully made.[*]iOS is responsive.[*]Seamless integration with iTunes.[*]Good Screen[*]Great Web Browsing[*]Excellent Support and Servicing.[/LIST]
I think what we are seeing in some of the posts are very sour grapes. I believe it was you who recently remarked on what is a reasonable statement and what is not. I suggest your statement, highlighted above, was unnecessary. All your post is doing is deliberately adding fuel to an already burning fire and as such is not contsructive, but that appears to be your mode of operation of late. |
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There's alot of rumoures flying around google and I think we can draw together a logical spec now of what the phone will be:
*1080p video recording and video playback. (New LG phone is already being released with 1080p). *Probably a camera flash upgrade so no doubt a duel LED or photo light and LED or Xenon. I think they will go for a duel with existing light from Iphone 4. *8MP next camera upgrade. *3D Game support and possibly 3D video recording (Again new LG phone has this) so expect 3D of some form. *Talk of Apple social networking inbuilt to the next OS. *I read something about HDMI whether it has a plug or it means 1080p video recording to put on a TV? *Probably a faster processor again. *Rumours the button will be removed but I hope this is not the case. *Will run IOS 4.3 with Wi-fi hotspots and some new features like screen rotate. It's already beta testing. *Rumours it will have camera effects so maybe it will finally get a proper interface like most camera phones? If they add an 8MP snap it would make sense as it will be producing top quality snaps and full HD video. So I think cosmetically it will look the same maybe a new flash on the back and finally a choice of colours. Faster OS, 3D support of some kind, upgraded camera module and all important 1080p video recording. Dismissed earlier in this thread but seemingly the faster processor will allow it and with new handsets from other companies starting to include it makes sense for Apple to complete that upgrade. |
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There's alot of rumoures flying around google and I think we can draw together a logical spec now of what the phone will be:
*1080p video recording and video playback. (New LG phone is already being released with 1080p). *Probably a camera flash upgrade so no doubt a duel LED or photo light and LED or Xenon. I think they will go for a duel with existing light from Iphone 4. *8MP next camera upgrade. *3D Game support and possibly 3D video recording (Again new LG phone has this) so expect 3D of some form. *Talk of Apple social networking inbuilt to the next OS. *I read something about HDMI whether it has a plug or it means 1080p video recording to put on a TV? *Probably a faster processor again. *Rumours the button will be removed but I hope this is not the case. *Will run IOS 4.3 with Wi-fi hotspots and some new features like screen rotate. It's already beta testing. *Rumours it will have camera effects so maybe it will finally get a proper interface like most camera phones? If they add an 8MP snap it would make sense as it will be producing top quality snaps and full HD video. So I think cosmetically it will look the same maybe a new flash on the back and finally a choice of colours. Faster OS, 3D support of some kind, upgraded camera module and all important 1080p video recording. Dismissed earlier in this thread but seemingly the faster processor will allow it and with new handsets from other companies starting to include it makes sense for Apple to complete that upgrade. There won't be 3D in the new iPhone, definitely not. 3D is on its 30 year cycle (tried in the 50's, tried in the 80's, and tried today), and 3D in mobile devices is utterly pointless. 1080p I can't see happening. Apple currently focus (for ALL its content) on high bitrate 720p content rather than 1080i/p. Also, running iOS4.3? No, it will run iOS5. 4.3 is an intermediary update for current and older devices. Historically: iPhone - iPhone OS1 iPhone 3G - iPhone OS2 iPhone 3GS - iPhone OS3 iPhone 4 - iOS4 Screen rotation for the springboard only really applies to the iPad. They won't remove the home button on the iPhone. On the iPad where guestures are actually feasible, yes, on the iPhone, no. I'm not saying it won't be moved, but it certainly won't be totally removed. Camera effects is a definite possibility, however could be coming to iPhone 4 sooner - the code for this has been found in plist files in iOS4.3b3. In conclusion, your "logical spec" is mostly incorrect. I reckon it will be an interim upgrade - its already a massive spec when compared to other phones on the market. A4 based Dual Core processor 1Gb RAM up from 512Mb Newer PowerVR graphics chip Possibly an 8MP sensor, but I'm not so sure. iOS5 Universal CDMA/GSM chip (CDMA iPhone has this already) Tweaked antenna design, possibly coated. Same screen |
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So I think cosmetically it will look the same maybe a new flash on the back and finally a choice of colours. Faster OS, 3D support of some kind, upgraded camera module and all important 1080p video recording. Dismissed earlier in this thread but seemingly the faster processor will allow it and with new handsets from other companies starting to include it makes sense for Apple to complete that upgrade.
But they don't even have a flash on the device. They've got a camera light - but definitely not a flash. I hope they concentrate more on higher bit rate 720p than 1080p - the N8 has already demonstrated that well encoded 720p output can beat 1080p from other manufacturers. 3D just won't happen, at least not in this upcoming generation of iPhones. |
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No, since when has Apple done things because other people have done it, especially LG.
There won't be 3D in the new iPhone, definitely not. 3D is on its 30 year cycle (tried in the 50's, tried in the 80's, and tried today), and 3D in mobile devices is utterly pointless. 1080p I can't see happening. Apple currently focus (for ALL its content) on high bitrate 720p content rather than 1080i/p. Also, running iOS4.3? No, it will run iOS5. 4.3 is an intermediary update for current and older devices. Historically: iPhone - iPhone OS1 iPhone 3G - iPhone OS2 iPhone 3GS - iPhone OS3 iPhone 4 - iOS4 Screen rotation for the springboard only really applies to the iPad. They won't remove the home button on the iPhone. On the iPad where guestures are actually feasible, yes, on the iPhone, no. I'm not saying it won't be moved, but it certainly won't be totally removed. Camera effects is a definite possibility, however could be coming to iPhone 4 sooner - the code for this has been found in plist files in iOS4.3b3. In conclusion, your "logical spec" is mostly incorrect. I reckon it will be an interim upgrade - its already a massive spec when compared to other phones on the market. A4 based Dual Core processor 1Gb RAM up from 512Mb Newer PowerVR graphics chip Possibly an 8MP sensor, but I'm not so sure. iOS5 Universal CDMA/GSM chip (CDMA iPhone has this already) Tweaked antenna design, possibly coated. Same screen http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/n...t-glasses.html Not saying I want it but alot of new phones will have it. I think 1080p will happen even if it doesn't play movies in that I think the recording senor will be. When they look at camera modules the next logical one is an 8MP senor with 1080p. Stick to what they have and the camera won't really be any better. |
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Apple have already said they are working on 3D:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/n...t-glasses.html Not saying I want it but alot of new phones will have it. I think 1080p will happen even if it doesn't play movies in that I think the recording senor will be. When they look at camera modules the next logical one is an 8MP senor with 1080p. Stick to what they have and the camera won't really be any better. Technology such as that Apple is developing may well be a few generations away from being a truly usable solution High bit rate 720p will definitely look better than a standard bit rate 1080p, and Apple don't tend to go for numbers on a check sheet for specs. |
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....I don't think they'll go 3D until its a maturer technology.
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... and everyone else has done it first
![]() A kid in the crowd that shouts out a mention of the Nintendo 3DS would immediately be dragged out and shot. Heresy not allowed at Apple events. |
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Whats the Nintendo 3DS got to do with anything?
Look, its very unlikely that the next iteration of the iPhone will have a 3D display, 3D in the mobile market is a no-goer, its absolutely pointless on a phone. Yes, Apple are looking into glasses-less 3D, but two things spring to mind for that:[LIST][*]Likely to involve OSX Lion[*]Likely to involve the Apple Cinema Displays[*]Who isn't working on glassesless 3D? The company who works it out will be minted![/LIST]What people have posted here is a wishlist, until Apple confirm themselves on WWDC day, nobody knows whats going to happen. |
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I went Android because of several features I saw as lacking from the iPhone (cost wasn't an issue - I bought sim free).
[LIST][*]Ability to change keyboard (I use swype) and SMS software[*]Widgets - like weather, signal strength, weather, etc[*]Less regulation of apps - I'm a heavy podcast user and iOS seemed limited in this respect as there is a poor selection of podcast apps[*]Tight integration with gmail - my primary email account[*]Ability to install custom roms with popular hardware[*]WiFi hotspot[*]Notifications system[*]Doesn't need a PC - totally cloud based out of the box[/LIST] There were lots of features that Apple hardware has going for it including[LIST][*]The hardware ecosystem (lots of cases/3rd party accessories)[*]The apps ecosystem and iTunes integration[*]The design - you can't deny Apple hardware is attractive[*]Quality of the camera and hardware[/LIST] I'd like to see Apple tweak the software and be a bit more like Android and up their game (and maybe loosen their grip) - I just hope that if I buy an iphone it doesn't change my personality. iPhone owners seem to be the phone equivalent of BMW/Audi drivers :-P |
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. Don't believe the anti-mac propaganda. Our iPhone drops fewer calls than our Vodafone Nokia.