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Old 11-12-2010, 17:54
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My predictions:

SCD: 11m - this is definitely going to be down from last week's 12m due to the earlier slot and no Widdy left in it. In the week when it finished relatively early due to the Festival of Remembrance, it had 10.7m, I think it'll rate quite similar to that figure, perhaps slightly higher due to it being the semi final.

JLS: 4.5m - Cheryl's Night In in the pre-TXF final slot had 5m so I expect this to rate worse considering JLS aren't as "big" a name as Cheryl and also it's airing one hour earlier against a stronger SCD than last year.

TXF: 14m - I am not expecting much of a boost for TXF tonight compared to last Saturday; the big boost will happen tomorrow. Last year's final Saturday show rated the same as the semi final Saturday show. Also 7pm is the earliest start for TXF this series which might catch some people out.

TMO: 6.5m - the highest rating for this in the first series was 5.1m. I believe TXF boosts shows around it by 15-25% so assuming it's a 25% boost I think it'll be in the mid 6's, however I wouldn't be surprised with a low 7's result.
I might as well just say dito as I'm thinking roughly what you are - though perhaps slightly higher for TXF - 14.5m perhaps.

As for JLS - surely it would have done better tomorrow night at 6.30pm.
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Old 11-12-2010, 17:56
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This is they key one for ITV (apart from the obvious X Factor figures). Its interesting that in the US the Superbowl lead in usually goes to a 2nd season show rather than a brand new show. Interesting that ITV are copying this approach with the UK's Superbowl.
A second season show is safer - there already is proof that it has potential instead of risking a lot on a new show failing under the pressure.
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Old 11-12-2010, 17:58
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Friday 10th December Overnights
BBC One (inc. HD)
19:00- The One Show: 5.15m (22.8%)
19:30- A Question of Sport: 3.64m (15.2%)
20:00- EastEnders: 9.17m (37.9%)
20:30- QI: 3.85m (15.0%)
21:00- Strictly Come Dancing: 8.48m (33.4%)
* series low
22:00- BBC News At Ten: 5.88m (26.7%)
22:25- BBC Regional News: 5.66m (27.6%)
22:35- The Graham Norton Show: 3.77m (22.7%)
* all time high
A really good night for BBC1, really.

QI was a million down, but still a great rating up against Corrie's big week.

Otherwise, everything else was strong. The One Show, Ten O'Clock News and Graham Norton all doing exceptionally. Yes, SCD's 9m or thereabouts (once officials come in) is below-par but still brilliant numbers for that slot.

You are so sadly desperate aren't you - I don't recall the Corrie fans being as bitter as we've seen from some of the EE lot this week, but then again, why would they be of something of such little significance.
Me, desperate?

Your show is the one that came second!
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:00
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BBC1 xmas ident just launched.

Too early by a week. Be bored of it by Christmas...
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:00
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The only bad thing against X Factor is earlier timeslot, but for it is that there's no Merlin and only a Wipeout repeat and Casualty to compete with.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:01
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A really good night for BBC1, really.

QI was a million down, but still a great rating up against Corrie's big week.
Nearly beaten by A Question Of Sport though. QI is geting over exposed on Dave and BBC2. It is just not right for BBC1 and should move back to BBC2
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:06
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It is just not right for BBC1
Why - because it attracts a decent audience and dents the 8.30 Corrie?
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:06
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TXF will get 17 million tonight, possibly peaking at 19 million for the last 15 minutes. You really have to go back to the early eighties for ratings like this on a Saturday or even if it gets 20 million, the golden BBC1 era in the late seventies.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:06
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You are so sadly desperate aren't you - I don't recall the Corrie fans being as bitter as we've seen from some of the EE lot this week, but then again, why would they be of something of such little significance.
You say that, but I see Corrie fans going to enormous lengths to spin this round their way.

The Corrie birthday week has been a resounding ratings and critical success for ITV (but let's be honest, if Corrie's ratings hadn't shot up it would have been a major ) but I still reckon that, deep deep down, ITV will be a little disappointed not to have beaten EE's live episode audience (though they have may have been resigned to the belief they weren't going to.) At the end of the day, when we look back to 2010 TV in the future the ratings that will be most remembered won't be a programme's average figure, but its highest.

If they revived Philip Schofield's series Television's Greatest Hits in 2020, the programme on 2010 will show eastenders above Corrie (unless Corrie pulls in a record timeshift audience). But will it beat X Factor? That's the next big question.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:07
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TXF will get 17 million tonight, possibly peaking at 19 million for the last 15 minutes. You really have to go back to the early eighties for ratings like this on a Saturday or even if it gets 20 million, the golden BBC1 era in the late seventies.
No it won't - only tomorrow will get big figures, like last year.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:07
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The only bad thing against X Factor is earlier timeslot, but for it is that there's no Merlin and only a Wipeout repeat and Casualty to compete with.
BBC1 raises the white flag in an hour from now. TXF has a complete free run this year, both nights.

It will fill its boots as a result - 16m tonight. Easy.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:08
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You are so sadly desperate aren't you - I don't recall the Corrie fans being as bitter as we've seen from some of the EE lot this week, but then again, why would they be of something of such little significance.
I think your just clutching at straws again by attacking a perfectly logical post that several others have agreed with.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:11
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Why - because it attracts a decent audience and dents the 8.30 Corrie?
No two reasons:

1) its dumbed down on BBC1
2) its going to kill the show a lot quicker

so it will end up being a casualty in your war on ITV
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:12
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My predictions:

SCD: 11m - this is definitely going to be down from last week's 12m due to the earlier slot and no Widdy left in it. In the week when it finished relatively early due to the Festival of Remembrance, it had 10.7m, I think it'll rate quite similar to that figure, perhaps slightly higher due to it being the semi final.

JLS: 4.5m - Cheryl's Night In in the pre-TXF final slot had 5m so I expect this to rate worse considering JLS aren't as "big" a name as Cheryl and also it's airing one hour earlier against a stronger SCD than last year.

TXF: 14m - I am not expecting much of a boost for TXF tonight compared to last Saturday; the big boost will happen tomorrow. Last year's final Saturday show rated the same as the semi final Saturday show. Also 7pm is the earliest start for TXF this series which might catch some people out.

TMO: 6.5m - the highest rating for this in the first series was 5.1m. I believe TXF boosts shows around it by 15-25% so assuming it's a 25% boost I think it'll be in the mid 6's, however I wouldn't be surprised with a low 7's result.
I'll go with:

SCD 10.5m (on far too early, off too early to get the usual benefit of the big peaks it gets post 7pm, and totally overshadowed by the other big show on tonight)

TXF 16m - benefits from BBC1 not turning up. Like one of those nights in the late seventies when either BBC1 or ITV was on strike and trash like Sale of the Century got 23m.

TMO 9.6m - key is to how quickly the TXF audience melts away.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:24
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Have we got another example of ITV taking inspiration from BBC1?

Compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEpn6SEi92Y

with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j8sLbigj1w

Uncanny isn't it... ?
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:24
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BBC1 raises the white flag in an hour from now. TXF has a complete free run this year, both nights.

It will fill its boots as a result - 16m tonight. Easy.
There really is no point in BBC1 competing hard against one of the biggest TV events of the year. And, as I said before, it is not the BBC's job to try and damage ITV.

Also, It has to be said that the commercial business ITV has also thrown in the towel against big BBC1 shows next weekend.

Against the Strictly Final results show on Saturday the umpteenth showing of Bridget Jones' Diary.

Against the Apprentice Final on Sunday they're gone for David Suchet On The Orient Express, originally, IIRC, scheduled for their Tuesday night flop-zone. (I gather the programme was mainly commissioned just to help David Suchet get back into the part of Poirot.) The original occupant of that Sunday 9pm slot, the David Jason drama Come Rain Come Shine has very sensibly been moved to Monday at 8.30 where it plays against Panorama and Accused.

ITV seem to have made a bit more effort against the Strictly Final performance programme - The Cube celebrity special, The Cube having a proven record in holding a healthy audience against Strictly on a Sunday. Although as the celebrities featured are Joe Swash and Kelly Osbourne - maybe this is another exercise in towel-throwing.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:26
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Have we got another example of ITV taking inspiration from BBC1?

Compare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEpn6SEi92Y

with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j8sLbigj1w

Uncanny isn't it... ?

im not seeing it
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:32
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Against the Apprentice Final on Sunday they're gone for David Suchet On The Orient Express, originally, IIRC, scheduled for their Tuesday night flop-zone. (I gather the programme was mainly commissioned just to help David Suchet get back into the part of Poirot.) The original occupant of that Sunday 9pm slot, the David Jason drama Come Rain Come Shine has very sensibly been moved to Monday at 8.30 where it plays against Panorama and Accused.
Does Corrie lose an episode then next week (ignoring Christmas Day)?

ITV should have given Atonement a shot at 9pm next Sunday rather than playing it out after the news. It was very well received IIRC when it was released.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:37
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Does Corrie lose an episode then next week (ignoring Christmas Day)?
Yes.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...postcount=4463 --> for comparison when the overnights come out
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:39
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Does Corrie lose an episode then next week (ignoring Christmas Day)?
Yes, but of course last week it had six recorded episodes alongside the live show.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:42
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Some people seem to think this week's Corrie ratings aren't very good. Bearing in mind the amount of channels on offer and the fact some of the show's viewers have died out, 14 million is excellent for the live episode and 13 million is still very good for the tram crash. Yes EE is a more popular show, so its live episode got 16 million viewers, but Corrie did extremely well. Also the curiosity and nostalgia value will have helped.
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Old 11-12-2010, 18:53
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Predictions??
I remember Take Me Out starting out ata round 3.6m and then hitting highs of 5.2m.

So i reckon 5.3m for Take Me Out. Around 11.8m for Strictly and 15.7m for X Factor.
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Old 11-12-2010, 19:06
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Predictions??
I remember Take Me Out starting out ata round 3.6m and then hitting highs of 5.2m.

So i reckon 5.3m for Take Me Out. Around 11.8m for Strictly and 15.7m for X Factor.
SCD can't possibly get 11.8m because it was only on for an hour, and started early at 6pm.

Also the main body of the show was done by 6.50 and the last ten mins was filled with recaps and a live Take That performance. Stupid decision by BBC1 to split it over 2 nights instead of having one 1h30m show tonight with both dances and the knock-out group dance.

TMO will clearly not be plumbing the depths of 5.3m tonight. The testcard would average 6m in the 9-10pm slot tonight.
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Old 11-12-2010, 19:18
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There really is no point in BBC1 competing hard against one of the biggest TV events of the year. And, as I said before, it is not the BBC's job to try and damage ITV.

Also, It has to be said that the commercial business ITV has also thrown in the towel against big BBC1 shows next weekend.

Against the Strictly Final results show on Saturday the umpteenth showing of Bridget Jones' Diary.

Against the Apprentice Final on Sunday they're gone for David Suchet On The Orient Express, originally, IIRC, scheduled for their Tuesday night flop-zone. (I gather the programme was mainly commissioned just to help David Suchet get back into the part of Poirot.) The original occupant of that Sunday 9pm slot, the David Jason drama Come Rain Come Shine has very sensibly been moved to Monday at 8.30 where it plays against Panorama and Accused.

ITV seem to have made a bit more effort against the Strictly Final performance programme - The Cube celebrity special, The Cube having a proven record in holding a healthy audience against Strictly on a Sunday. Although as the celebrities featured are Joe Swash and Kelly Osbourne - maybe this is another exercise in towel-throwing.
I think simply by existing BBC damages ITV, but i take your point. However the scheduling for Saturday and Sunday arent even regulation, SCD moved, AR being a repeat along with Gently and Wipeout. The papers today are bigging up X Factor in their opinion columns along with people like Fiona Phillips who wonders what on earth she will find to do next weekend when XF is no more-well after an appearence on It Takes Two I would rather hope she will be watching Strictly-though that seems to have escaped her.

XF will probably never have a better chance to shine.
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Old 11-12-2010, 19:44
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BBC1 raises the white flag in an hour from now. TXF has a complete free run this year, both nights.

It will fill its boots as a result - 16m tonight. Easy.
From 10PM tomorrow, ITV1 waves a white flag until janurary
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