Emmerdale's breakdown is scary. It has nearly as many oldies as Corrie but significantly less 16-34s than it.

that is flopping this year, isnt its normally arounf 1 million?


why has Breakfast got a higher figure, but a lower %?

Interesting to see that Corrie really is as old, as people keeping saying

Two words answer that for you - George Dixon.

Thank god he's off shortly!

Once he's finalised the Beeb's crucial Christmas and New Year schedules.


So it looks like I was right then, despite what PJ Miller said earlier. TXF did get its absolute peak - just - and BBC1 its absolute nadir at 9.30-9.35pm, as TXF climaxed and Casualty was replaced by A&M.

BBC1 was watched by 2.1m from 9.30-9.40 - suicide scheduling which was responsible for TXF's uplift last night. Had it and Casualty both finished at 9.30 then it may have averaged less than last week?

Shocking for A&M - even more unpopular than thought, it was only the first IAC ad break and folk tuning in for the news that brought the average up from catastrophic to merely awful.


Look at MOTD's peak after IAC finished - 4.8-4.9m!

At nearly 11pm!

Had there been no IAC overlap it would have averaged high 4.x m's plus timeshifting.


Very interesting - so the over 55s make up the single biggest demographic of both SCD AND TXF.

Look - it's there in black and white.

Both nursing home favourites then!


More likely there was an ad break...


Hm, but Breakfast comfortably outrates Maydaybreak in every single demographic.

Bitter?

Is this the stock GeorgeS comeback for when he cant spin anything anymore?

Thanks. I'll guess at:

1) Manchester United v Liverpool (ITV1)
2) Leicester City v Manchester City (ESPN)
3) Stevenage Borough v Newcastle United (ESPN)
4) Arsenal v Leeds United (ESPN)
5) Scunthorpe United v Everton/Chelsea v Ipswich Town (ITV1)

I don't know what ITV1 would chose as the fifth option, Chelsea are seen as the bigger pull but Everton being away could mean more chance of an upset.

Its rating for the same episode last year was 608k so it looks like I'm a Celebrity is denting it from its usual ~1m audience.


That's a percentage of its total audience. So 11% of Breakfast's total audience are aged 16-34, while it's 18% for Daybreak.

Its not actual audience share, it says that Breakfast audience of 16-34s make up 11% of its total audience.


Still quite shocked it beats Daybreak in the demographic.

Last day of the official ratings period in 2010.

Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.02m
18:30 (Premiere) Wall-E 0.76m
20:30 (Premiere) The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian 0.76m

Nine
15:00 The Cricket Show 0.79m
15:30 The Ashes: First Test – Australia v England 1.06m
18:00 Nine News Saturday 1.33m
18:30 Australia's Funniest Home Videos 0.96m

Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five 0.41m
17:30 Sports Tonight 0.24m
18:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.23m
18:30 (Premiere) Stardust 0.36m

ABC1
19:30 New Tricks / Victorian State Election Coverage 1.11m
20:30 Spooks / Victorian State Election Coverage 0.65m

Corporation Shares
Seven/7TWO/7Mate - 31.0%
Nine/GO!/Gem - 31.0%
ABC1/2/3/News24 - 22.0%
Ten/One - 11.4%

The cricket rallied for the weekend posting a huge daytime audience. Ten had a hideous night - absolutely hideous - no question about that, even the film bombed. Solid albeit unspectacular for Seven's movie premieres. Good night for ABC which had a regional optout in Victoria for the elections there.

They've done nothing. It's more down to narrow-minded people not giving the channel as chance in terms of football coverage than poor football coverage as a whole (IMO ). Certainly, I don't mind football coverage on ITV1 compared to BBC1.

I think the lack of promotion opportunities may have an impact. BBC have the radio, website plus TV advertisments. ITV1 have only one of those options in comparison. The newspapers don't have much of an effect.

It would be shocking if Maydaybreak beat anything in any demographic - after all, its star presenter has just junked the show as "a crock of shit".

This may be a new marketing strategy, of course. If people think it's really that bad, they may start watching.

TXF is pursuing the same strategy with the contestants it keeps on keeping in...

Xtra Factor does a lot better when Im a celeb isnt on!! Theres a big cross over audience between X factor and IAC.

It would make more sense for Xtra Factor to be taped and either aired later on after Im a Celeb and the Celeb spin-off show have aired or at 7pm before the Sunday result show.

Perhaps you wouldn't have made that comment if you had seen the audience breakdown of your beloved Coronation Street.

Big team vs minnows only tends to get picked if it's the minnows at home. Only about 4-5 ties here have that potential.

Obviously, Man U v Liverpool is the biggie, and you can't blame ITV for picking that plum up. The Beeb would have done the same with first pick.

I remember in the Ben Shepard days it often used to be delayed when ITV1 was showing some Entertainment specials. It was definately delayed by about a half an hour or more when ITV1 was showing An Audience with Take That Live.

What sort of ratings do you think Dancing on ice and Britans got talent will get next year

But its lowest audience came when IAC was off air back on the 23rd October when it had just 293,000 (1.3%).

Didn't even make ITV2's top 10 most watched programmes for that week. Although it has picked up a bit since then, the Saturday edition of Xtra Factor is looking increasingly pointless.

my bad, in that case looking back, Corrie REALLY is old.

Dancing on Ice looked a bit vulnerable last series, with its ratings down and iirc even being beaten by Countryfile when head to head a couple of times. They should go for a Strictly-style revamp which is very much possible with the move to its new studios and get some better celebrities. The last series officially averaged 8.3m; it's difficult to say if the next series can rate better without knowing the celebs or what format changes they have but if they make the right decisions, I think it could rate better (i.e. 8.5-9m).

As for BGT, I think there's definitely room for improvement especially after TXF's rise this year. They should schedule the live shows better next year so that they don't clash against EE but on the other hand, apparently Cowell won't judge during the auditions so maybe that could have a negative impact? Difficult to say atm, once again without knowing who the new judges will be or what format changes there'll be.

In fairness that was against Cheryl on Life Stories. Xtra Factor has been getting 0.8-1.1m most weeks which is still very good for ITV2, although it's down on last year, partly thanks to Konnie Huq. I believe something similar happened the year Fearne Cotton hosted, and I doubt Huq will be back next year.

I see BBC Three are repeating Sherlock over the next three Sunday nights. I wonder how that will rate.

I'd say it's ratings this series have ranged from ok to poor. Even the terrible Celebrity Juice did better and that doesn't have a daddy version on ITV1 bringing in ~15m a week.

Obviously your view sheds far more light on it than the views of Chiles and Bleakley, who have reaffirmed their commitment to the show. I think what happens after Christmas is key as there is bound to be a noticeable "refresh" to try and address the main issues. I still think the biggest problem Daybreak has is it still employs Kate Garraway myself - I'm sure they only let her stand in for Christine to remind viewers how bad things used to be!


I don't think the 700~ figure included C4+1, so probably not quite as bad as we thought first. As a long term fan though must say wasn't as enthused about this series in the run up to it (indeed almost forgot it on Friday!) as I have been in the past, but it is great to see one comedy at least sticking around for the long haul, rather than doing two or three series then signing off under the pretence it's so good they couldn't possibly do any more.

I believe series 8 of Peep Show is already commissioned - but I'd say they should call it a day after that.


I'm wondering should Wagner make it to the final who on earth would be willing to duet with him?


To be fair it usually switches for bigger games (and the main MOTD team sometimes presenter). Notice MOTD2 is back at 10.30pm this season having moved to 10pm IIRC last year.



Would be interesting to see the Hollyoaks 16-34 figure now as before the slump last year it was beating Emmerdale in that regard with IIRC 0.9m to 0.8m.


I think Dancing on Ice is set for a bit of a shake up with at least one new judge and a host of new pros - plus a new set, so it could recover slightly on this year.

Britain's Got Talent - it's all down to them getting the judges right. I think with Piers gone and Simon out of the auditions it would be easier to sell with a complete new judging panel rather than two new judges joining Amanda - and I think Simon should abandon his plans to return for the live week to give the new judges a chance. It is somewhat undermining them if he returns at the live stage (though it might be best not to make that decision until they see whether the show needs him ratings wise after the first few weeks of auditions).

because it features ballroom dancing, musac and the chance to vote off black people?

DOI did look vulnerable last year and I hope they go for a revamp. I think they may be as I've heard it mentioned a few times now, and the new venue could be a part of it. One of the judges (Nicky Slater) has been sacked so there will be a new judge (and I wouldn't rule out another being sacked, or maybe they'll cut it to 4 judges). The celebs rumoured so far include Kerry Katona (pretty much confirmed), Denise Welch, Vanilla Ice, Jeff Brazier, Jilly Goulden, Jonathan Wilkes and Angela Rippon so there's some well known names in there, although I'm sure there will be a few soap actors in there too. If they get this next series right then the show will be set for another few years, but if they let it become even more tired then it may not have long left.


BGT really suffered from the scheduling and the weather for this year's live shows, and better scheduling is needed for next year. I'm still pretty sure that Cowell will judge the auditions as usual. The dates have been released and they'll all be done by the end of January and the live shows are only a week in May so it's hardly a huge commitment for him, so I see no real reason for him to not do it, and him joining at the live shows would be weird.

The rumoured judges so far are: Paul O'Grady, Sharon Osbourne, David Walliams, Louis Walsh and Peter Kay. I can't see Kay doing it and I don't think they'll particularly want Walsh. Rumours are also circling that Amanda Holden may not be doing it, whilst it was reported that ITV have made David Walliams an offer. I suspect it may be Walliams, Osbourne and Cowell, which would certainly be an improvement on this year's panel (Holden really got on my nerves this year). I wouldn't be too surprised if they try to get a really big name though as it's not a big commitment although I don't know who they could go for.

As for the scheduling, I think they should go for 4 weeks of auditions (Saturday and Sunday), 1 week of 'bootcamp' and then the live week, which would consist of 6x90 minute semi final shows (6 acts + a guest on each) from Sunday-Friday or Monday-Saturday, starting at 8:30pm or 9pm (Monday and Friday), followed by the final, which would have separate performance and result shows (starting the semis on the Monday and having the final on the Sunday may be an idea).

It could also be an idea to push News at Ten back to 11pm for the semi finals week and launch new shows at 10pm straight after BGT, before they move to 9pm the following week.