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Old 24-11-2010, 13:58
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Rumoured Christmas Day schedule for BBC One:

3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film: Wall-E
4.50pm- BBC News
5.00pm- Film: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
7.00pm- Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol
8.00pm- Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
9.00pm- EastEnders
10.00pm- The Royle Family
11.00pm- News
11.10pm- Film: Minority Report

Courtesy of COMPAQ in the Christmas Thread. Pretty much makes sense, but notably The One Ronnie is not there, despite the rumours. Clearly it had to be sacrificed in order for Indiana Jones to air later in the afternoon.

Also, a shame to have another hour-long EastEnders this year. The double episode is so much better IMO. However, I'm glad Doctor Who is on at 7pm rather than 6pm last year, which was terrible.

If true, it makes its highly likely ITV will predictably run as follows, with Emmerdale vs Doctor Who and Coronation Street vs Strictly:

7.00pm- Emmerdale
8.00pm- Coronation Street
9.00pm- Agatha Christie's Poirot
11.00pm- News
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Old 24-11-2010, 14:11
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That Miranda repeat wasn't billed in the Radio Times, or anywhere, I don't think. Last week they showed the repeat on Wednesday at 7.30, unbilled, but this week it was billed on Wednesday with Mock The Week on Tuesday at 10pm. But in fact Miranda was shown last night and Escape to the Country is now an hour long at 7pm tonight.

Clearly this has been a last minute decision as next week's Radio Times says in the billing for Monday's show the repeat is on Wednesday at 7.30, but it's actually billed on Tuesday at ten. I dunno what happened there, presumably they decided to do a repeat, put it at 7.30, then decided it was unsuitable for such an early slot?
there was nothing unsuitable on last night's show, well maybe reading Mein Kampf to children bit

maybe the good ratings for its rubbish 8.30pm slot prompted a rejig in schedule. It deffo works as a 10pm programme, no idea why BBC are showing so early on Monday
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Old 24-11-2010, 15:45
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Old 24-11-2010, 15:58
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Rumoured Christmas Day schedule for BBC One:

3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film: Wall-E
4.50pm- BBC News
5.00pm- Film: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
7.00pm- Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol
8.00pm- Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
9.00pm- EastEnders
10.00pm- The Royle Family
11.00pm- News
11.10pm- Film: Minority Report
I was expecting Shrek the Third to pop up on Xmas Day but if that schedule is true, Indiana Jones is a good movie to show at that time anyway. The BBC repeated the Indiana Jones movies a couple of years ago and they got 5m+ with the third one getting 7m+. So Kingdom of the Crystal Skull should be capable of getting 7/8m+ imo and in the past Christmas premieres of Indiana Jones movies have rated very well even by BBC1's high-rated Xmas Day movie standards (15.8m in 1993).

I think DW will rate better than last year's Xmas episode as it'll air an hour later and it's a proper Christmas themed episode. SCD was a weak-link in the BBC1 schedule last year when it only got 6.7m but it'll definitely rate better this year, maybe back to 2007/2008 levels of ~8.5m. Not sure what to expect regarding 'Enders - it's definitely favourite to be most watched show of the day but I dunno if it will be able to beat last year's 10.9m when there was a pretty big storyline (Archie's murder). I suspect The Royle Family will rate similar to the previous 2 years, so about 10m in the overnights.
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Old 24-11-2010, 16:25
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I was expecting Shrek the Third to pop up on Xmas Day but if that schedule is true, .
I would take it with a pinch of salt Compaq posted wrong provisionals last year.
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Old 24-11-2010, 16:42
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So Kingdom of the Crystal Skull should be capable of getting 7/8m+ imo and in the past Christmas premieres of Indiana Jones movies have rated very well even by BBC1's high-rated Xmas Day movie standards (15.8m in 1993).
I assume as it's a 12 rated film it will need to be edited for a pre watershed showing?
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:01
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According to the ITV Press Centre, their Christmas Day schedule is:

20:00- The Cube
21:00- Benidorm Christmas Special

Presumably that means Emmerdale and Corrie will air between 6-8pm.

I suppose the above means that the BBC1 schedule in terms of the timings of their primetime shows will be quite similar to last year. i.e. DW at 6pm, SCD at 7pm, EE at 8pm, TRF at 9pm...

In recent years, non-soap ITV shows have rated about 30% worse on Xmas Day than they usually rate so I predict The Cube will get ~3.5m and Benidorm getting ~4m.

Thanks. Yeah it looks like he's guessing rather than having proper inside information.
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:03
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According to overnights, ABC's DWTS went up 23% (from last fall's finale, ie. season 9) to an amazing 5.3 in 18-49 demo. Total viewers numbers were also mega-giant as it has attracted 24.13m, with a peak of 26.42m (6.0) at 10:30pm-11pm. The most-deserving winner won this season.

Although DWTS finale part 2 didn't clash with Fox's Glee, Glee went down a full point to 4.0 from last week's 5.0 in 18-49 demo. Total viewers, it scored a 10.38m. Looks like Modern Family might claim the scripted show crown this week.
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:20
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According to the ITV Press Centre, their Christmas Day schedule is:

20:00- The Cube
21:00- Benidorm Christmas Special

Presumably that means Emmerdale and Corrie will air between 6-8pm.

I suppose the above means that the BBC1 schedule in terms of the timings of their primetime shows will be quite similar to last year. i.e. DW at 6pm, SCD at 7pm, EE at 8pm, TRF at 9pm...
Can't see how Doctor Who would air as early as 6pm on Christmas Day if Indiana Jones is scheduled. Even with the shortest film in the rest of the collection, Shrek the Third, airing before it, it would still have to run like this:

BBC ONE
3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film: Shrek the Third
4.45pm- BBC News
5.00pm- Film: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
7.00pm- Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol
8.00pm- Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
9.00pm- EastEnders
10.00pm- The Royle Family: Sam's Crackers

If this is the case, I guess ITV would plump for:

3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film: ?
5.50pm- News
6.00pm- The Cube
7.00pm- Emmerdale
8.00pm- Coronation Street
9.00pm- Benidorm
10.15pm- ?

That, or the BBC will have to put Indiana Jones on earlier in the day, but would they want to?

Just a thought - if the BBC put EastEnders in ah hour slot, why don't ITV split Corrie into two episodes?
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:23
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According to the ITV Press Centre, their Christmas Day schedule is:

20:00- The Cube
21:00- Benidorm Christmas Special

Presumably that means Emmerdale and Corrie will air between 6-8pm.

I suppose the above means that the BBC1 schedule in terms of the timings of their primetime shows will be quite similar to last year. i.e. DW at 6pm, SCD at 7pm, EE at 8pm, TRF at 9pm...

In recent years, non-soap ITV shows have rated about 30% worse on Xmas Day than they usually rate so I predict The Cube will get ~3.5m and Benidorm getting ~4m.


Thanks. Yeah it looks like he's guessing rather than having proper inside information.
Not for a long time has ITV1 put a Comedy against the BBC's big Christmas Day Comedy!

The Royle Family Vs Benidorm will be an interesting battle!
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:26
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Rumoured Christmas Day schedule for BBC One:

3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film: Wall-E
4.50pm- BBC News
5.00pm- Film: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
7.00pm- Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol
8.00pm- Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
9.00pm- EastEnders
10.00pm- The Royle Family
11.00pm- News
11.10pm- Film: Minority Report

Courtesy of COMPAQ in the Christmas Thread. Pretty much makes sense, but notably The One Ronnie is not there, despite the rumours. Clearly it had to be sacrificed in order for Indiana Jones to air later in the afternoon.

Also, a shame to have another hour-long EastEnders this year. The double episode is so much better IMO. However, I'm glad Doctor Who is on at 7pm rather than 6pm last year, which was terrible.

If true, it makes its highly likely ITV will predictably run as follows, with Emmerdale vs Doctor Who and Coronation Street vs Strictly:

7.00pm- Emmerdale
8.00pm- Coronation Street
9.00pm- Agatha Christie's Poirot
11.00pm- News
I think that provisional schedule is OK after 7pm, but I can't see the Beeb airing Indiana Jones at 5pm. That's surely the time when the most kids will be watching TV on Christmas Day so they'd want one of their PG or U movies to go in that slot. Not saying Indiana Jones wouldn't rate well, it just doesn't seem appropriate for the slot.
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:27
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I think that provisional schedule is OK after 7pm, but I can't see the Beeb airing Indiana Jones at 5pm. That's surely the time when the most kids will be watching TV on Christmas Day so they'd want one of their PG or U movies to go in that slot. Not saying Indiana Jones wouldn't rate well it just doesn't seem appropriate for the slot.
But several sources now have said Indiana Jones is scheduled for Christmas Day so where exactly else could it go?
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:28
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Children's Hospital at Christmas - Monday, 20 December 2010, 9:00PM - 10:00PM
Agatha Christie's Marple - Wednesday, 22 December 2010, 8:00PM - 10:00PM
Agatha Christie's Poirot - Sunday, 26 December 2010, 9:00PM - 11:00PM
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:28
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Not for a long time has ITV1 put a Comedy against the BBC's big Christmas Day Comedy!

The Royle Family Vs Benidorm will be an interesting battle!
If they clash, I think it'll be an easy 2:1 victory for The Royle Family. The Royle Family will have a big EE lead-in and has proven that it's capable of 10m in the previous 2 years and although comedy competition on ITV1 might dent it, it'll still be likely to get a strong rating.

Benidorm will have a Cube lead-in and I reckon it'll be 30% down compared to the usual 6m it gets so the gap between the two shows won't even be remotely close!

But several sources now have said Indiana Jones is scheduled for Christmas Day so where exactly else could it go?
Possibly a Boxing Day showing for Indiana Jones 4?
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:29
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The Royle Family Vs Benidorm will be an interesting battle!
The BBC could put on a Reggie Perrin Christmas special and it would still beat Benidorm 2 to 1!!

Any other night and Benidorn would walk it!!
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:29
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But several sources now have said Indiana Jones is scheduled for Christmas Day so where exactly else could it go?
If I personally were scheduling it, I'd put it on Boxing Day at 8pm with an Eastenders lead-in.
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:51
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Not for a long time has ITV1 put a Comedy against the BBC's big Christmas Day Comedy!

The Royle Family Vs Benidorm will be an interesting battle!
I would guess that the audience crossover is massive for these two shows as if you like the sort of comedy used on TRF you are likely to like the jokes on Benidorm (excluding people on this forum who like channels not programmes!)

Surely though even though stuff is apparantly 'confirmed', nothing is confirmed until the last second?
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:55
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Surely though even though stuff is apparantly 'confirmed', nothing is confirmed until the last second?
ITV Press Office never normally updates a 2nd time if a show is already on there (unless its for soaps).

I wouldn't be surprised if it is confirmed, whatever they put on will get steamrolled anyways.
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Old 24-11-2010, 17:57
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Agatha Christie's Marple - Wednesday, 22 December 2010, 8:00PM - 10:00PM
Agatha Christie's Poirot - Sunday, 26 December 2010, 9:00PM - 11:00PM
So now ITV are adapting their 'soap fillers' for primetime showings. First 'Celebrity Grimefighters' and now 'Children's Hospital at Christmas'. Both shouldn't be getting primetime 9pm slots. Why not air Benidorm on Monday 20th December?!

Pretty good slots for Marple & Poirot and good to see some new drama in Christmas week. And POG @ Christmas is a good idea I think.
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Old 24-11-2010, 18:00
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Hmm, not keen on Benidorm airing on Xmas Day. If it does clash with The Royle Family then frankly it's a disaster waiting to happen as I suspect there is a large overlap, most of which will already be watching BBC1. If they do insist on putting it there then they could at least give it a Corrie lead in. I suspect that BBC1 will be running with something like this:

15:00 The Queen
15:10 Merry Madagascar/The Gruffalo
15:35 FILM: Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull
17:35 BBC News
17:45 Strictly Come Dancing
19:00 Doctor Who
20:00 EastEnders
21:00 The Royle Family
22:00 The One Ronnie

Not sure if BBC1 has bought Merry Madagascar, but they should do as it would do well for them. The 10pm show wouldn't have to be The One Ronnie but that's the one I thought of.

In response to this, I think a better ITV schedule could be:

15:00 The Queen
15:10 FILM: Harry Potter and The...
18:05 Creature Comforts
18:15 You've Been Framed at Christmas
18:45 ITV News
19:00 Emmerdale
20:00 The Cube
21:00 Coronation Street
22:00 Benidorm

That would probably be best for both parties, with the obvious exception of Corrie versus The Royles, but frankly I think whatever airs against Corrie has a slightly harder time than the rest of the schedule and I think Strictly could really sweep up loads of viewers in that slot with little opposition. Benidorm vs The One Ronnie in that slot would also be slightly more evenly matched tussle than Benidorm vs The Royles an hour earlier.

The other bits that ITV have announced so far seem pretty good. Murder on The Orient Express is great for Boxing Day and Marple will do well on the two Wednesdays (I suspect that's where the second one will go - EDIT: that's now 'confirmed'). Come Rain Come Shine will presumably take Monday 27th so with Paul O'Grady and Millionaire Live on Xmas Eve and Thursday 23rd respectively that's a fair bit of the schedule sorted. Are Ant and Dec doing a special this year? They did really well last year so ITV would be fools not to commission one. That'll probably get Boxing Day at about 19:30 if they do one again. Surprised Children's Hospital is getting a 9pm slot. It sounds worthy and 'feelgood' (for this sort of thing) enough but 8pm on the Tuesday would surely be better.

The schedules aren't confirmed properly until Tuesday so there's still plenty of time for swapping, and ITV Press Centre has changed things already on there for the last few Christmases in the run up to the deadline, so I wouldn't say any of this is set in stone yet.
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Old 24-11-2010, 18:06
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... Marple will do well on the two Wednesdays (I suspect that's where the second one will go). .
Marple might struggle on Wednesday 23rd December as it'll be up against The Apprentice Final.

Poirot is more popular than Marple and that went up against The Apprentice a few weeks ago, with an Emmerdale lead-in and got 4.8m. As Marple's less popular and probably won't have an Emmerdale lead-in and will face the actual final of TA, it might drop down to 3.5-4.5m.

Marple the week after should do pretty well though.

Also a bit weird they're airing Children's Hospital on the Monday because I thought the second part of The Savoy would air there.
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Old 24-11-2010, 18:12
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Marple might struggle on Wednesday 23rd December as it'll be up against The Apprentice Final.

Poirot is more popular than Marple and that went up against The Apprentice a few weeks ago, with an Emmerdale lead-in and got 4.8m. As Marple's less popular and probably won't have an Emmerdale lead-in and will face the actual final of TA, it might drop down to 3.5-4.5m.

Also a bit weird they're airing Children's Hospital on the Monday because I thought the second part of The Savoy would air there.
I'm not sure if Poirot is necessarily more popular than Marple (I'd say they're equal) but that clash proved that there isn't really much of a crossover between the Christie dramas and TA, so add in Marple's head start of an hour and I reckon it'll still hold 4.5m or so.

That Children's Hospital slot is weird. I can't see it staying there as The Savoy will surely be there. I reckon Children's Hospital will air on Tuesday 21st at 8pm with the David Suchet doc at 9pm.
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If confirmed, credit to ITV for actually competitng with a decent offering at 9pm Christmas Day. Putting viewers choice before profit there.

Hmm, not keen on Benidorm airing on Xmas Day. If it does clash with The Royle Family then frankly it's a disaster waiting to happen as I suspect there is a large overlap, most of which will already be watching BBC1. If they do insist on putting it there then they could at least give it a Corrie lead in. I suspect that BBC1 will be running with something like this:

15:00 The Queen
15:10 Merry Madagascar/The Gruffalo
15:35 FILM: Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull
17:35 BBC News
17:45 Strictly Come Dancing
19:00 Doctor Who
20:00 EastEnders
21:00 The Royle Family
22:00 The One Ronnie

Not sure if BBC1 has bought Merry Madagascar, but they should do as it would do well for them. The 10pm show wouldn't have to be The One Ronnie but that's the one I thought of.
Not sure putting a repeat or a short spin-off would be a good idea for capitalising on the 6m lead-in BBC will have. I would have had the Indiana Jones film on at 3:10 to avoid viewers staying with Harry Potter all afternoon.
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Old 24-11-2010, 18:16
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Not sure putting a repeat or a short spin-off would be a good idea for capitalising on the 6m lead-in BBC will have. I would have had the Indiana Jones film on ar 3:10 to avoid viewers staying with Harry Potter all afternoon.
Yeah you're right there, a 3:10pm start would be better for Indiana Jones, with the animated short afterwards (a shame they haven't commissioned one for this year after The Gruffalo's success last year).
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Old 24-11-2010, 18:19
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Rumoured Christmas Day schedule for BBC One:

3.00pm- The Queen
3.10pm- Film: Wall-E
4.50pm- BBC News
5.00pm- Film: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
7.00pm- Doctor Who: A Christmas Carol
8.00pm- Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special
9.00pm- EastEnders
10.00pm- The Royle Family
11.00pm- News
11.10pm- Film: Minority Report
If that were true, how inspiring. The sad thing is the BBC1 Christmas Day schedule is now so predictable even guess work isn't far off.

According to the ITV Press Centre, their Christmas Day schedule is:

20:00- The Cube
21:00- Benidorm Christmas Special

Presumably that means Emmerdale and Corrie will air between 6-8pm.
Now that's a bit more like it from ITV - OK, nothing particularly "special", but at least it's different to what they served up last year.
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