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Old 24-11-2010, 21:14
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I think most areas now have the "Easter" holidays bolted to the beginning of April, to keep it consistent, and if Easter falls outside that period they just have Good Friday and Easter Monday off. So I think a lot of kids will be back in school between Tuesday and Thursday.

The last time we had Easter Monday and May Day on consecutive weeks was in 2000, which was quite exciting, as is this, despite what miserable small businesses will tell you.
Well my school/college at least, the last day of the holidys is Easter Monday. Going back on Tuesday 26 April, having the 3 day week, then the Royal Wedding on the Friday and Then May Day. So for lots of people/families they have 2 weeks prior to go on holiday too. As someone else said I don't think it will be that mnay people.
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Old 24-11-2010, 21:34
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Countdown shows are a sound choice for the festive season because they are inexpensive, fill a lot of airtime and also rate fairly well. C4 used to air them all year round and still do on E4, so I think we can forgive C5 for a couple at Christmas time, don't you?
C4 were mad to abandon them completely when they did, but I guess like with most things 100 Greatest ultimately suffered from C4 milking it dry - though to be fair they really only did air a few times a year.

CHANNEL 4 CHRISTMAS 2010


CHRISTMAS DAY
12:00 Scrooged
14:30 Kirstie & Phil's Perfect Christmas
15:30 Kirstie & Phil's Perfect Christmas
16:30 Deal or No Deal
Know these are still provisional, but hope they don't drop the 3pm Alternative Message again!


P.S. Notice an ad asking for contestants for the next series of Push the button in this week's TV guide - though looks like the format will be tweaked as they're after families of four rather than five.
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Old 24-11-2010, 22:00
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Ladbrokes odds on the viewing figures (BBC and ITV) for the Royal Wedding...
Under 30 million 4/6 fav
30-34 million 9/4
Over 34 million 4/1

Kate & Wills to get a bigger audience than Diana and Charles (28.4 million) is 4/6.

http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/Sp...lty-t210001955
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Old 24-11-2010, 22:01
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Duty Free got 12.6m.

I'm back btw did I miss anything good ratings wise in the last 2 weeks? I hope ITV is doing better than ever
I never even noticed you'd gone. Erm:

- X Factor hit a series low
- I'm a Celebrity had its worst first week in several years
- EastEnders beat Emmerdale in their clash
- a Royal Wedding was announced.

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Old 24-11-2010, 22:19
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C4 were mad to abandon them completely when they did, but I guess like with most things 100 Greatest ultimately suffered from C4 milking it dry - though to be fair they really only did air a few times a year.
The entire reason why people started slagging off list shows was because in February 2001, Channel Four stupidly started showing a new series of Top Ten directly opposite I Love The Eighties, which made it look like they were on both channels all the time. And I would happily have watched both. Top Ten and I Love were both brilliant series at the start, Top Ten was hilarious, but Top Ten suffered from that stupid scheduling clash (in which it came off worst, and C4 moved it from 9pm to 10.30) and the fatc they ran out of subjects, while I Love did I Love The Nineties far too soon, which lost it a lot of goodwill because it wasn't very good at all. Though if they'd hung on a bit, and not shoved it out five months after I Love The Eighties, it might have been a bit better, they'd have had longer to make it for a start.

As you say, C4 specifically said they were dropping list shows and only doing them "if they are really special", although all that seemed to entail was renaming 50 Greatest Comedy Catchphrases as, er, Greatest Comedy Catchphrases. Then they dropped them for good, but it depends what it's a list of, doesn't it? Some were worth doing and were good shows, others were pointless and weren't. And the 100 Worst Britons was probably the worst, most cynical and mean-spirited programme ever made.
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Old 24-11-2010, 22:44
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CHANNEL 4 CHRISTMAS 2010

CHRISTMAS EVE
12:00 The Iron Giant
13:55 The Snowman
14:25 Come Dine With Me x5
16:55 Deal or No Deal
17:55 Movie Premiere: Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who (2008)
19:45 Channel 4 News
20:00 Heston's Feasts
21:00 Lee Evans: Access All Areas
22:30 Lee Evans Interview
23:00 Scary Movie 2

CHRISTMAS DAY
12:00 Scrooged
14:30 Kirstie & Phil's Perfect Christmas
15:30 Kirstie & Phil's Perfect Christmas
16:30 Deal or No Deal
17:30 Channel 4 News
18:00 One Born Every Christmas
20:00 The Miracle Baby of Haiti
21:00 River Cottage Christmas Special
22:00 Alan Carr: Tooth Fairy Live
23:00 Steve Coogan Live

BOXING DAY
13:55 C4 Racing
15:55 The Simpsons
16:25 The Simpsons
16:55 Deal or No Deal
17:55 Channel 4 News
18:00 Come Dine With Me Xmas Special
19:00 One Born Every Christmas
21:00 Channel 4 Comedy Gala

OTHERS
Dec 21 - Jamie's Best Christmas Bits Part 1- 8pm
Dec 22 - Jamie's Best Christmas Bits Part 2- 8pm
Dec 22 - Chris Moyles' Christmas Quiz Night 10pm
Dec 23 - 8 Out of 10 Cats Xmas Special 10pm
Dec 27 - Peep Show night starts at 9pm
Dec 30 - Location, Location, Location night starts at 7:30pm
Dec 31 - 100 Greatest Toys starts at 9pm
Snowman at 1.55 to make way for CDWM? Really?!

Also, 30 minute C4 News on Christmas Day - is that an error? Usually 5-10 minutes on holidays
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Old 24-11-2010, 22:49
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Good rating for Miranda on Monday, easily the best sitcom on for a good few years
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Old 24-11-2010, 22:52
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Snowman at 1.55 to make way for CDWM? Really?!

Also, 30 minute C4 News on Christmas Day - is that an error? Usually 5-10 minutes on holidays
Not an error, but it is only provisional. I noticed that myself and would expect that to be revised downwards to around 5-10 minutes in the final schedule. I doubt C4 would run a half hour bulletin on Xmas Day, even the news channels revert to a 15 minute loop.
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Old 24-11-2010, 22:52
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Good rating for Miranda on Monday, easily the best sitcom on for a good few years
I agree! I think it should move to BBC1 for it's next series!
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:14
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Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.35m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.20m
19:00 Home and Away 0.98m
19:30 The Zoo: Australia's Biggest Baby 0.98m
20:30 City Homicide 0.89m
21:30 City Homicide 0.78m

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.11m
18:30 A Current Affair 0.96m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.77m
19:30 The Block 1.31m
20:40 The Block: Winner Announced 1.71m
21:10 (New) Warnie 0.85m

Ten
18:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.48m
18:30 Neighbours 0.59m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.75m
19:30 Modern Family 0.89m
20:00 Raising Hope 0.76m
20:30 The Good Wife 0.62m
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:15
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Is Claudia Winkleman the female face of the BBC? she's everywhere.
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:18
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Link: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...gains-it/73347

ABC:

No Ordinary Family
- 7.004 million viewers
- 4.3/7 HH
- 1.8/5 A18-49

Dancing with the Stars (120 minutes)
- 24.197 million viewers
- 14.7/24 HH
- 5.3/13 A18-49
CBS:

NCIS
- 18.775 million viewers
- 11.1/18 HH
- 3.9/11 A18-49

NCIS: Los Angeles
- 14.959 million viewers
- 9.0/14 HH
- 3.2/9 A18-49

The Good Wife
- 10.030 million viewers
- 6.5/11 HH
- 2.1/6 A18-49
NBC:

The Biggest Loser (120 minutes)
- 6.769 million viewers
- 4.1/6 HH
- 2.3/7 A18-49

Parenthood
- 4.469 million viewers
- 2.8/5 HH
- 1.9/5 A18-49
FOX:

Glee
- 10.407 million viewers
- 5.9/10 HH
- 4.0/12 A18-49
- 4.1/13 A18-34
- 5.2/16 W18-34

Raising Hope (9pm)
- 5.699 million viewers
- 3.2/5 HH
- 2.5/7 A18-49
- 2.3/7 A18-34
- 2.9/8 W18-34
CW was all repeats.
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:21
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Thrilled the The Good Wife lost just a 0.1 in the demo against DWTS and so near thanksgiving. Phew! I thought it would tumble.
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:25
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The week between Easter and May Day is the second week of the school easter holidays. I doubt the ratings will be effected that much though, people don't go away at Easter much do they? especially with all the cuts coming up.

Down here the school's are back the day after Easter Monday, they break up nearly two week's before Easter.
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:27
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I agree! I think it should move to BBC1 for it's next series!
If it keeps cracking 3m in the overnights, I think it will. I'm usually against BBC One skimming off the best stuff from its sister channel, but in this case, and considering the desperate lack of decent sitcoms on the main channel, I don't think they can let Miranda pass them by.

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I know its the same shows every year and the Cowell shows get bigger numbers these days, but there's still something quite fun about all the speculation over Christmas Day schedules. It's still the only day of the year where we get a proper variety of the biggest shows across all genres on one schedule - and that makes it really interesting.

Benidorm is a pleasant, unexpected surprise and mixes things up a little. Don't think it'll change BBC One's plans though: I'm still expecting a Royle Family/One Ronnie comedy double to follow EE. Not sure how the films will work out in the afternoon, but Indiana Jones would be good to see, breaking up the now-established animated fare. I imagine they'll pick the films based on getting the right timings for the evening schedule though.
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:33
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I love the approach to Christmas with all the schedules flying about. Yes BBC1 will thrash everything in sight and we could've predicted their primetime schedule back in August (famous last words?) but still...I almost wish we had the sweeps here like in America which would create more talking points.

BBC1 had a strong night as ever, but the rating that caught my eye was I'm A Celebrity...When a Tuesday edition beats the Saturday it just underlines the stupidity of the schedulers to put the final on the Saturday night. I guess The X Factor lead in will help it, but then it had that last weekend.
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:33
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Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.35m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.20m
19:00 Home and Away 0.98m
19:30 The Zoo: Australia's Biggest Baby 0.98m
20:30 City Homicide 0.89m
21:30 City Homicide 0.78m

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.11m
18:30 A Current Affair 0.96m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.77m
19:30 The Block 1.31m
20:40 The Block: Winner Announced 1.71m
21:10 (New) Warnie 0.85m

Ten
18:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.48m
18:30 Neighbours 0.59m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.75m
19:30 Modern Family 0.89m
20:00 Raising Hope 0.76m
20:30 The Good Wife 0.62m
Compared to H&A, Neighbours got a rise for
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:34
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Great numbers for DWTS - curiously dramatic drop for Glee.

I think we can now say that No Ordinary Family is dead. A real shame as I don't think they helped it with its slot - mind you, it still managed an adequate premiere audience then lost it.

I wonder if that'll precipitate any changes on the ABC midseason schedule. They could just chuck NOF under the Idol bus on Thursdays at 8 - and try to capitalise on the opportunities being presented on Tuesdays with their mideason shows. New Comedy Block at 8, DWTS at 9 and Body of Proof at 10, perhaps?
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:50
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I'm back btw did I miss anything good ratings wise in the last 2 weeks? I hope ITV is doing better than ever
Only one piece of big ratings news for you, George - The One Show got 6.4m AND WON ITS SLOT last Tuesday!

I thought it might have been this news that explained your absence - so glad to hear you're safe and well...
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Old 24-11-2010, 23:57
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Re Christmas, if ITV1 goes for:

18:00 Emmerdale
19:00 Coronation Street
20:00 The Cube
21:00 Benidorm

then I think BBC1 would clean up with:

3.10 The Gruffalo [or a new 30 minute animation??]
3.40 Film: Wall-E
5.15 News
5.30 EastEnders
6.00 Doctor Who
7.00 Strictly Come Dancing
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 The One Ronnie
9.30 The Royle Family
10.30 Come Fly With Me
11.00 News
11.10 Film: TBA

I think 10pm is too late for The Royle Family. 9.30pm just about acceptable.

I would much rather have split eps of EE - but I note the BBC PI pages list just 10 episodes for the fortnight, not the expected 11. So either it doesn't air on Boxing Day and has 2 eps on Christmas Day, or does and has 1 Xmas Day ep.

overnights.......

BBC1 (inc HD)
TOS - 5.21m
EE - 9.21m

ITV1
IAC - 8.73m
Given that I'm a Celebrity normally gets 0.5m+ in HD, seems like it won the night!
Also most watched show of the day is great.
Only 80,000 ahead on the overnights, so we need to wait for the officials before we can proclaim IAC as "show of the day". In any event, as EE will have finished at 7.56pm for the pointless news update, its overnight ratings are probably higher than 9.21m anyway?

Not for a long time has ITV1 put a Comedy against the BBC's big Christmas Day Comedy!

The Royle Family Vs Benidorm will be an interesting battle!
Interesting in the sense of Benidorm being completely trounced.

Anyway, we can't have ITV's* biggest two (or only two?) sitcoms dukeing it out in the prime Christmas Day 9pm slot.

(* - think about it...)
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Old 25-11-2010, 00:01
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Compared to H&A, Neighbours got a rise for
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agreed compared to recent weeks, this is a good week.

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If any of that matters now its moving to ELEVEN.
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Old 25-11-2010, 00:03
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Great numbers for DWTS - curiously dramatic drop for Glee.

I think we can now say that No Ordinary Family is dead. A real shame as I don't think they helped it with its slot - mind you, it still managed an adequate premiere audience then lost it.

I wonder if that'll precipitate any changes on the ABC midseason schedule. They could just chuck NOF under the Idol bus on Thursdays at 8 - and try to capitalise on the opportunities being presented on Tuesdays with their mideason shows. New Comedy Block at 8, DWTS at 9 and Body of Proof at 10, perhaps?
I was hoping NOF would not be the next V or FlashForward. The show is actually quite good. Even if it was competing against NCIS and Glee, it could have still attained good figures to make the show a competitive third in slot. I personally blame bad marketing and promotion for the show. None of the new shows this season was given a proper chance. FOX is focussing on Glee and ABC on Modern Family. Moreover, Grey's is getting a heck of a promotion, whilst Desperate Housewives isn't getting as much promotion as Grey's. Back to NOF, I'm not sure if moving to Tuesdays at 9pm would do them any favours. If ABC have placed DWTS results at 8pm and NOF at 9pm, I don't think NOF would have bad numbers at all. I think ABC needs to revamp for midseason, IMO.

Sundays is changing with The Secret Millionaire at 8pm, which is a "make it or break it" show. The Wednesday comedy block will remain the same. There are two possibilities for Body of Proof.

1. If DWTS results show will be scheduled at Tuesday 8pm like last season, BoP should be at 9pm, so the show can get a proper first season launch. Then Castle can follow at 10pm or vice versa. NCIS: LA can be their big competition, while The Biggest Loser and Raising Hope are getting mediocre figures. Tuesday at 10pm (The Good Wife, LOLA) is getting passable, but not strong numbers. I think Detroit 1-8-7 will be moved to Fridays at 9pm.

2. Like C14E suggested, Sunday at 10pm after Desperate Housewives, given Dana Delany's link to DH. After a few episodes airing in early January, have DH take a break until all award shows are over (Have Body of Proof promoted heavily, alongside DH during the Oscars). Then a week after the Oscars, DH and Body of Proof can be the ABC Sunday dramas. B&S can move to Mondays at 10pm after The Bachelor (January-March). NOF can be after DWTS performance show (March-May). Or, vice versa.
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Old 25-11-2010, 00:13
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Oh, almost forgot (new thought). The Middle and Better With You can take a break from January to March to make way for midseason sitcoms (Mr. Sunshine and Happy Endings). After their 9-13 episode run, The Middle and Better With You can come back to finish their season. As for Thursdays at 8pm, any two ABC comedy show repeats would be fitting. Unless, ABC does a heavy marketing for Thursday 8pm show(s) again.
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Old 25-11-2010, 00:17
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Re Christmas, if ITV1 goes for:

18:00 Emmerdale
19:00 Coronation Street
20:00 The Cube
21:00 Benidorm

then I think BBC1 would clean up with:

3.10 The Gruffalo [or a new 30 minute animation??]
3.40 Film: Wall-E
5.15 News
5.30 EastEnders
6.00 Doctor Who
7.00 Strictly Come Dancing
8.00 EastEnders
8.30 The One Ronnie
9.30 The Royle Family
10.30 Come Fly With Me
11.00 News
11.10 Film: TBA
I really like that schedule, expect I would maybe go for...

5.30 Strictly Come Dancing
6.30 EastEnders
7.00 Doctor Who

I know Who would go up against Coronation Street, but... tough. It's never had any issues against Emmerdale and Emmerdale doesn't seem to have been too badly affected by the competition.

Only issue is the 30 minutes which sticks out a bit, would be better to go straight from The Queen to Wall-E, but I'm sure they can find a suitable filler somewhere.
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Old 25-11-2010, 00:24
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There is Scared Shrekless, I dont know what is happening with that
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