Wow, unoriginal. W&G featured in 2008.

it WILL be on, since the movie featured in the BBC Christmas Movie trailor, so if its not on, the BBC is going to look woefully inept.

Shame Digiguide has put some Week 1 listings up for the BBC yet.

I forgive you.

Christmas on the BBC...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2010/1...-preview.shtml

Looks like Daybreak remains on air over Christmas, though on the Holiday Monday & Tuesday it begins at 7am, with CITV at 6am. Dan and Kate down to present from 20th Dec, with Lorraine still in the 8.30am slot.

talking of soap anniversys, there is one we seemed to have missed,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pro...adio/2011/wk1/

60 years of The Archers, take that Corrie.

The fact that W&G are on the Christmas RT cover makes me think BBC1 actually has a brand new animated film this Christmas but either George D forgot to schedule it, or has buried it so deep in the recesses of the schedule that none of us has found it yet.

I think the main thing for ITV has been that their big shows have done well. While it's true that the factual stuff largely flopped, I doubt they ever had long term hopes for any of it. Whereas Downton Abbey and Paul O'Grady were the kind of shows they'd have hoped to bring back. Not only that, but X Factor is somehow higher than last year and I'm A Celebrity is doing really well despite not having Katie Price.

I know people tend to get terribly upset at the idea of more reality TV, but I still think ITV need to look at getting another live, stripped series on the go in the first few months of the year. Obviously they could try Hell's Kitchen again, but looking at the Wiki page for 71 Degree's North, it looks like it has quite a bit going on - immunity challenges, team events and weekly eliminations. Could that maybe be run like I'm A Celebrity? Stripped over 2 weeks to start with and filmed live? Ant & Dec would be doing their own shows and BGT in the first few months of the year but they could try some other pairings - perhaps Dermot O'Leary & Caroline Flack? Or reunite Holly Willoughby with Stephen Mulhern? 71DN wasn't such a huge success that they need to worry about screwing it up but it did seem to hold its audience over the run which is quite encouraging.

You do have to wonder what EE Live would have got had it aired in the higher rating Monday night slot - 18-19m? 20m?


Gosh, an even bigger beating for Maydaybreak than the previous day!

Stunning BBC 1pm figure - 4m!

And I can never stop stressing how fantastic the BBC Regional News rates. It's consistently one of the most watched shows on telly, day in day out, all year round, 6-8m viewers, sometimes 10-11m - if it snows! But consistently overlooked.





The trailer makes it look like a "special" episode of Casualty, the ones they used to launch a new series with, when it returned in September after 4 months off air.

I wonder how many train crash storylines Casualty has had over the years and covered much more plausibly?

"Corrie Does Casualty" looks like being a major :yawn: as far as I'm concerned.

But no doubt it will beat EastEnders in the 2010 chart, and possibly the TXF Final Final too. Millions may have given up on the ageing, dull, pensioner-fodder, clapped-out Corrie (and justly so) - but they still have an affinity for it and will be there next week to see "who gets wiped out".

Interesting - really surprised that the combined BBC1/ITV1 rating in my region, the North West, are so low. What are we all watching up here at that time?

But no surprise that North West Tonight comfortably beats ITV News. It's a quality product, and Gordon Burns is a legend up here.

Amazing ratings for BBC Yorks & Lincs - nearly 1m!

There's only YOU that could come out with this garbage. Honestly Robbie, it's so tiresome, it's untrue. Clapped-out Corrie...seriously what are you talking about? 50 years it's been going. It's a television achievement and deserves the big celebration it's getting. Whether it lives up to the EE live episode rating or not, who actually cares! It looks like it's going to be one of the best weeks in years!

Your dislike for ITV is beyond ridiculous now. I mean you champion SCD, but do you actually watch it? Show for old people isn't it with nothing better to do on a Saturday night! Doesn't strike me as your show...i mean it's about ballroom dancing of all things. :yawn::sleep:

The current Mrs Sykes watches it, but generally I'm a passive viewer. Not my thing really, but Brucie is a legend and it's a great feelgood bit of event telly, with a bit of style and panache, classily done by the BBC as only they could. A cut above the usual Saturday night fare.

Corrie has been on its arse for years. Unfashionable and dull, and in ratings decline. I was brought up on the show, and as I grew up, I still appreciated its northern charm and humour. I used to get the piss ripped out of me for watching it whilst at university.

But it's a pale imitation now, sexing itself up by moving away from gritty northern working class realism and humour to Hollyoaks on the cobbles, with a pair of teenage lipstick lesbians thrown in for good measure.

It's a show I can happily not see for weeks now. And then we get the big tram crash/armageddon storyline, ramped up for months. When I saw the posts raving about this stunningly awesome trailer (albeit from our resident ITVistas), I just had to watch. And then I just laughed at how corny and naff it looked, a cross between a bad episode of Casualty and a new series of Survivors.

And they're going to spin the actual "aftermath" out to a full 7 hours of viewing over 5 days. Blimey - talk about overkill.

Corrie needs to get back to what it was - a good, honest, realistic slife of northern working class life, with real larger than life characters, proper storylines and good humour. But I suspect there's more ratings to be gained from trying to turn it into a Mancunian EastEnders, which is so obviously what the producers have been trying to do for ages.

HAHAHAHA! Oh come off it Robbie! Strictly is as tacky as it can possibly get!

Ah the Peter and Paul show can be very good value.

North West: BBC- 639k (25.5%), ITV- 324k (14.6%)

Re: local news between 6.00-7.00pm

BBC Northwest tonight goes up against ITV national news at 6.30pm (explains why it wins the local head to head battle)

Granada Reports goes up against BBC national news at 6.00pm (that is a reason why its ratings suffers - oh and it is quite crap if we are honest up here)

That's not unique to Granada - which makes it all the more impressive for the ITV regions that win (or come close).

I presume there's historic reasons of why regional goes before national on ITV? It does seem odd.

It didn't use to. In the old days the ITN bulletin was at 5.40 or 5.45pm and the local programmes were at 6 to 6.30pm.

BBC One had similar slots, except in the days of Nationwide/Sixty Minutes which lasted an hour from 6-7pm and were national with local opt outs..

Both BBC's national and local news clashed directly with ITV's.

Looking back to 1994 BBC1 had the same pattern,6.0 national then local news; ITV had national news at 5.40, Home and Away at 6 pm and local news 6.25-7.00

Well that's a PRC followed directly by a PRR right there...

The vast majority of people in the Soap Forum from both Coronation Street and EastEnders fans are applauding the trailer: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1400957

Key:
- PRC = Predictable Robbie Comment
- PRR = Predictable Robbie Reply

Oh, pardon me for expressing an opinion...

Only in some regions. Calendar for example has always been at 6pm, Home and Away was on at 5.10 on Yorkshire.

Regarding the rating for BBC Yorks & Lincs, that is the combination of Look North Leeds and Hull and the region is much bigger than the North West, the region is massive.

Lancashire is only about half the width across than Yorkshire is for example. Southerners won't realise that the pennines don't actually go down the middle.

Population wise, I suspect more people live in BBC NW than BBC Y&L.

I highlighted this in an earlier post - ITV has no equivalent to Look North from Hull therefore it is a bit misleading to combine the two programmes. The official BARB region is effectively YTV's (taking in the Belmont transmitter).In a similar way ITV has no equivalent to the BBC South East programme from Tunbridge Wells. So in some regions BARB is not comparing like with like.

I have ratings books from 1987 and if I take a day at random (Mon 2nd Feb 1987) the figures for ITV and BBC regional news were as follows for key regions:

Granada BBC 1.5m; ITV 1.1m
London BBC 1.6m; ITV 1.5m
Yorkshire BBC 1.0m ITV 1.2m
Central BBC 1.0m; ITV 1.9m
Anglia BBC 0.7m; 0.9m
TVS BBC 0.4m; 1.2m
TSW BBC 0.4m; 0.3m
TTTV BBC 0.5m; ITV 0.5m

these aren't exact match ups because the regions for BBC & ITV werent exactly the same but its clear that ITv has lost most in London and the South over the years.

From the New Year ITV is to increase the number of days Lobb and Garraway present and reduce the days Chiles and Bleakley present, according to press reports.ITV have discovered Lobb and Garraway are more popular with viewers